23 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

There's a world of difference between tearing it up it in the VFL and being a contributor at AFL level. Tom Fullarton being the most recent example.

Also applies to Adams.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I wouldn't go using Whorethorn as an example of good trading they are a bottom 8 team and nothing else.

Barrass and Battle are not stellar Backman by any stretch of the imagination and won't get it done when the whips are cracking.

Meek average battler, Ginnivan one trick pony with his dropping off the knees.

I will give credit with Amon and D'Ambrosio excellent kicks of the ball and can split defences open.

They have major strength the Dorks and that is there ball movement by foot but in finals teams they rely on this alone get found out with elite finals pressure.

you stifle that strength and they are any easy team to beat.

They played against a team on the weekend with average forward cohesion, average tall targets that dont compete and don't take marks I50 well and were well beaten everywhere but on the scoreboard.

Bottom 8 team? They played finals last year and are currently in the top 4.

It was getting to finals and playing an attractive brand of footy that allowed them to bring in Barrass and Battle who regardless of what you think of them had plenty of other suitors, key backs have been massively in demand in recent trade windows

They put their name in the hat for every free agent for years before that and couldn’t land any.

So they brought in the players I mentioned for a packet chips and made finals with them.

The point I was originally making is I see us in a similar spot as the hawks were when Mitchel took over. Bottom 6 and won’t be able to attract big stars so we have to target players that aren’t in other clubs best 22. Like Derksen.

48 minutes ago, Colm said:

Bottom 8 team? They played finals last year and are currently in the top 4.

It was getting to finals and playing an attractive brand of footy that allowed them to bring in Barrass and Battle who regardless of what you think of them had plenty of other suitors, key backs have been massively in demand in recent trade windows

They put their name in the hat for every free agent for years before that and couldn’t land any.

So they brought in the players I mentioned for a packet chips and made finals with them.

The point I was originally making is I see us in a similar spot as the hawks were when Mitchel took over. Bottom 6 and won’t be able to attract big stars so we have to target players that aren’t in other clubs best 22. Like Derksen.

My apologies @Colm I mean't the bottom of the top 8 (6 to 10) they don't have the weapons against the top brass to be in a prelim and beyond.