Thanks Staff, but it's time for a change.

No il feelings toward him, but it's the area we need change in most.

 

Edited August 15, 2024Aug 15 by Travy14

Its time we had a proper forwards coach teaching our forwards proper leading patterns, structure, blocking etc. The mod-forward connection is not solely on the mids, yes they need to tighten up their delivery but it's not like they're burning teammates leading up to them or into space, they kick to packs because the forwards are stagnant.

What's Stevie j up to?

Thanks and Ciao mate.

 

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:16, Dr. Gonzo said:

Its time we had a proper forwards coach teaching our forwards proper leading patterns, structure, blocking etc. The mod-forward connection is not solely on the mids, yes they need to tighten up their delivery but it's not like they're burning teammates leading up to them or into space, they kick to packs because the forwards are stagnant.

100% the way we move the ball doesn't help the forwardline at all but the amount of times I see our forwards either standing completely still and waiting for the ball to land on their head OR all running back into the goal square rather than spreading and creating options does my head in.

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:17, biggestred said:

What's Stevie j up to?

I’d be all for this. Knows his football. Could be a good move for Clarry too. He had similar issues but straightened himself out.

Who were our line coaches in 2021?

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:19, Biffen said:

Thanks and Ciao mate.

Second that!!

  On 15/08/2024 at 12:39, praha said:

Who were our line coaches in 2021?

Chaplin backs
Yze mids
Stafford forwards & rucks

I believe Stafford got the forwards gig added to his ruck responsibilities in either 20 or 21 when footy departments were slashed as the league adjusted to the impacts of covid on costs & revenues. Can't remember who ran the forwards prior to that

Wasn't he our ruck coach and then transitioned to forward coach?

Lovely guy and coached us to a GF but I agree its time for a change. Maybe someone with a harder edge.

  On 15/08/2024 at 13:16, Go the Biff said:

Chaplin backs
Yze mids
Stafford forwards & rucks

I believe Stafford got the forwards gig added to his ruck responsibilities in either 20 or 21 when footy departments were slashed as the league adjusted to the impacts of covid on costs & revenues. Can't remember who ran the forwards prior to that

Wasn't it Chaplin initially hired as a forward coach?

Edit

"Recently retired Richmond defender Troy Chaplin has joined Melbourne's coaching panel as an offensive co-ordinator."

Oct 2016

https://www.zerohanger.com/recently-retired-tiger-joins-melbourne-coaching-panel-7920/

 

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/317733/new-appointment-troy-chaplin?videoId=317733&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1475623481001

Edited August 15, 2024Aug 15 by John Demonic

  On 15/08/2024 at 13:33, John Demonic said:

Wasn't it Chaplin initially hired as a forward coach?

That kinda rings a bell but he's had the backline for a long time now. Don't think he was Stafford's immediate predecessor as forwards coach

  On 15/08/2024 at 13:38, Go the Biff said:

That kinda rings a bell but he's had the backline for a long time now. Don't think he was Stafford's immediate predecessor as forwards coach

We made a lot of changes mid season in 2019 before the 2020 cuts. From memory Chaplin went from forwards coach to backline, Rawlings was promoted from Casey to forward coach, and McCartney went from backline to development coach.  

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:17, biggestred said:

What's Stevie j up to?

Hawkins just retired.  Would bring a wealth of knowledge & experience also.

Stafford has been poor, but half of that is the way Goodwin dictates the ball being moved into the f50, and tbh until that changes the next coach will struggle some too.

  On 15/08/2024 at 13:16, Go the Biff said:

Chaplin backs
Yze mids
Stafford forwards & rucks

I believe Stafford got the forwards gig added to his ruck responsibilities in either 20 or 21 when footy departments were slashed as the league adjusted to the impacts of covid on costs & revenues. Can't remember who ran the forwards prior to that

Yze 🤣🤣

Coaching our fwd line or lack of a fwd line in the past 3 years would have to one of toughest gigs going

Should we play an injured Brown or T Mac this week? or maybe an 18yo JVR?

maybe convert another defender to a fwd?

So many quality options!

Don’t make Stafford the scapegoat 

Mini is contracted but gee whiz I’d be scratching away and what he added to the mix this year. Gus retiring and Oliver’s issues massive headwinds but we went backwards in the middle part of the ground this year (even before KBD game)

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:36, KozzyCan said:

 

100% the way we move the ball doesn't help the forwardline at all but the amount of times I see our forwards either standing completely still and waiting for the ball to land on their head OR all running back into the goal square rather than spreading and creating options does my head in.

Not sure that is Stafford’s fault - Goodwin’s game plan is to create repeat contest deep-ish in F50, not attempt to create space.  

Grab a hawthorn assistant and find out what Mitchell puts in their Gatorade, so to speak 

  On 15/08/2024 at 20:07, The Jackson FIX said:

Not sure that is Stafford’s fault - Goodwin’s game plan is to create repeat contest deep-ish in F50, not attempt to create space.  

I understand that, but our forward line has been incredibly static, particularly when there is a holdup at wing/HB - They don't block/ create space/do multiple leads. I have defended players and coaches on this site many times but I don't see Stafford as the right guy.

Hopefully West Coast are interested.

  On 15/08/2024 at 20:07, The Jackson FIX said:

Not sure that is Stafford’s fault - Goodwin’s game plan is to create repeat contest deep-ish in F50, not attempt to create space.  

I'd happily replace both. Club is in a rut, playing group is falling apart. It can't go on.

  On 15/08/2024 at 11:17, biggestred said:

What's Stevie j up to?

He could take the boys out for a few dozen beers after training… Men who drink together play together…

  On 15/08/2024 at 14:10, Demon Dynasty said:

Hawkins just retired.  Would bring a wealth of knowledge & experience also.

Not a bad shout. Even if it was just to work with our key forwards. We have Petty, JVR, Turner and Jeffo who all seem to have talent but are very green. If we could get them all working well individually and as a group it would be massive for us going forward( no pun intended).