Glad to hear that he’s staying. 
North will have to content themselves with wine or Wines?

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Happy to be proven wrong but can you find any of them signing a 4 year deal?

Or even a 3 year deal over 30?

Wheres the faith between the club and player that they’ll keep playing at the right pay rate for as long as needed.

4 is bonkers.

You don't know the structure of the deal.

How do you know it's not heavily front loaded on an already veteran salary?

38 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

If you thought I didn’t like Max’s deal just wait until you hear my thoughts on this one.

What an absolute joke. 

4 years for a beat up one dimensional mid who has to nurse a cooked shoulder through half the game. 

We all love Jack. We all want to keep Jack, but 2 years was the deal. 4???

Seriously, what are we doing here???

And we are surprised that guys like Tracc are looking out for number 1 when we just hand out whatever our leaders want?

Something is badly wrong here and we are bribing our leaders in to staying.  

Are you actually Serious here or just taking the pizz??

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Happy to be proven wrong but can you find any of them signing a 4 year deal?

Or even a 3 year deal over 30?

Wheres the faith between the club and player that they’ll keep playing at the right pay rate for as long as needed.

4 is bonkers.

As @Axis of Bob observed Tom Stewart signed for 4 years at almost exactly the same age as Jack is now at the end of last year.

https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/1479173/stewart-signs-on#:~:text=Tom Stewart is set to,a three-year contract extension.

Well, you can never be 100% sure I guess, but after Viney looked a Rowe on the weekend and said ' contested footy beast ?..I'll show you what a contested footy beast  looks like....' (my words, not his) I suspected he wouldn't do that if he was intending to leave. I'm glad he sticks around. 

The smile on my face reading this:

‘The challenge on Friday night and beyond, is one we will tackle head on. And if there’s one thing Dad taught me, it’s that when you tackle, you tackle with intent.‘

Here we are. The living certainty that Viney, Petracca and Oliver are staying is coming to fruition. It was always 100% definite.  The 4 years does seem generous but is it heavily front ended? Not too concerned but hoping so. I really hope we learn a lesson and follow the Geelong model (apologies!) and we manage Jack and Max the way they have with Dangerfield etc. If not the longer contracts are somewhat fraught and we won't be getting the best out of two champs of the club.

The extension is 3, not 4.

He was already contracted until the end of 2025.

No surprises about the identify of the handful of Demonland posters who are determined to look for the dark cloud surrounding the silver lining of both Max and Jack re-signing.

I can understand why at the moment, and as people have already said, we don't know the contract situation and how it's paid. But the reality is Viney won't be playing in the seniors past the next two to three years because of his pace and body. Good luck to him.

I love Jack, but I wonder how much extra that "slip" on the Gold Coast interview got him

I love the letter in the email/social media release.  Made me tear up.

14 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

No surprises about the identify of the handful of Demonland posters who are determined to look for the dark cloud surrounding the silver lining of both Max and Jack re-signing.

We haven't heard from the Crank yet. 3,2,1....

No doubt JV did a little better this week than potentially was on the table 2 weeks ago...

But I'm wrapped, ❤️💙

Jack ‪Viney is a star ⭐️.

Premiership player 🏆

red and blue heart ❤️💙❤️💙❤️💙‬

Jack will be a demon for life 👏👏👏👏👏👏 we love it !!!! 

25 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Happy to be proven wrong but can you find any of them signing a 4 year deal?

Or even a 3 year deal over 30?

Wheres the faith between the club and player that they’ll keep playing at the right pay rate for as long as needed.

4 is bonkers.

I think it's really clear there's a trend at Melbourne where we are happy to sign players to long term contracts.
I'd be interested to hear what actual risks there are in doing that for senior leaders of the club.

55 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I am confident Max will still be a top liner in three years but less confident in Jack will be in four. Would love to be proven wrong.

He’ll be one of those “wise heads”

around our younger players.. similar to what Clarko’s trying to get …😳🧐

25 minutes ago, old55 said:

As @Axis of Bob observed Tom Stewart signed for 4 years at almost exactly the same age as Jack is now at the end of last year.

https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/1479173/stewart-signs-on#:~:text=Tom Stewart is set to,a three-year contract extension.

Fair rebuttal.
 

The counter is he’s played 50 less games than Jack, is a more valuable player and has a lot more flexibility to just sit in a back pocket if needed. 

He also signed in December with no fuss. If anything that’s what troubles me most.

Why is the club so desperate for good news and why was Viney even flirting with North? 
 

The only way this is actually positive news rather than just PR is if we are doing something significant with the cap flexibility longer deals provide. 

7 minutes ago, Chook said:

I think it's really clear there's a trend at Melbourne where we are happy to sign players to long term contracts.
I'd be interested to hear what actual risks there are in doing that for senior leaders of the club.

that's always hard to quantify when none of us are privy to the contract details. there could be any number of clauses which protect the club and minimise risk. have some faith in list management.

8 minutes ago, Chook said:

I think it's really clear there's a trend at Melbourne where we are happy to sign players to long term contracts.
I'd be interested to hear what actual risks there are in doing that for senior leaders of the club.

Big Ben Brown wasted a list spot for about 1 good game this year. That’s the downside.

And it’s not just him.

Tomlinson overpaid for 5. Melksham, Hibberd, T Mc all signed up well in to their declines. Even if some of the had renaissances.

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fair rebuttal.
 

The counter is he’s played 50 less games than Jack, is a more valuable player and has a lot more flexibility to just sit in a back pocket if needed. 

He also signed in December with no fuss. If anything that’s what troubles me most.

Why is the club so desperate for good news and why was Viney even flirting with North? 
 

The only way this is actually positive news rather than just PR is if we are doing something significant with the cap flexibility longer deals provide. 

I think you're discounting the leadership vacuum too heavily.  North were no doubt offering 4 years and big bucks.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

If you thought I didn’t like Max’s deal just wait until you hear my thoughts on this one.

What an absolute joke. 

4 years for a beat up one dimensional mid who has to nurse a cooked shoulder through half the game. 

We all love Jack. We all want to keep Jack, but 2 years was the deal. 4???

Seriously, what are we doing here???

And we are surprised that guys like Tracc are looking out for number 1 when we just hand out whatever our leaders want?

Something is badly wrong here and we are bribing our leaders in to staying.  

You clearly have no understanding of leadership, hero worship and loyalty. Look at what happened to North Melbourne when they dumped Boomer Harvey early.

Jack sets standards - we need him more than ever and I’m wrapped he is happy to keep striving for another flag in red and blue 

 

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

How do you know it's not heavily front loaded on an already veteran salary?

It would be common practice amongst all the clubs.  In fact, it's the best way to construct a contract so as to not be up for big dollars in the last year of a long deal

The last year of a deal can therefore be effectively a tack-on year

And with the salary cap heading towards $20Million, paying a figure of say, $500k, in the last year of a contract would only represent 2.5% of a year's salary cap

Maybe a lot less if the final year of a contract is around $350k to $450k

So why don't we hear about the above in the media? 

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Macca

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Big Ben Brown wasted a list spot for about 1 good game this year. That’s the downside.

And it’s not just him.

Tomlinson overpaid for 5. Melksham, Hibberd, T Mc all signed up well in to their declines. Even if some of the had renaissances.

What is the actual waste though? 

How much value would JVR have gotten from some no-name 100th pick being on the list, in contrast to a proven AFL-level forward like Ben Brown?