Christian Petracca

[loges 6,767]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate, stop blaming Darcy Moore. 

These issues that are raised are well before the injury.

So many issues at our club why don't more players want out. But hang on a minute didn't nearly every player with only a year or 2 left on their contract just extend, from rookies to veterans. Who whispers these stories of issues and what are they actually, who has alterior  motives

[Jjrogan 1,391]

47 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

Sadly I am starting to feel the Trac to Carlton move is inevitable - I mean once the Blue mafia gets hold it's a really hard thing to counteract and with him being an Italian boy, the passion and under the table dealing would be in overdrive.

Just look at almost all the big deals in recent years, from Jack Martin to Mitch McGovern to Zac Williams to Adam Cerra and the Blues have five of the highest-paid internals already - Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Weitering and Harry, not to mention how much they had to fork out on TDK's deal. Luke Sayers is the master of legal deals apparently.   

And they have a home base and it's just 30 minutes from Armadale.

I know it's unpalatable, but maybe we have to start building young stock before the draft is totally compromised again with Tassie. The Blues have pick 11. I know that and their future first rounder sounds cheap for a Norm Smith Medallist, but maybe we have to retool again to challenge. 

@adonski load the Carlton death ride thread please.  Giddy up. 

[Young Blood 2,242]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

I really want to hear from Christian or his manager at this point.

They have not handled this well at all.

Unlike Harry Mckays manager who's simply stated that Harry doesn't want to leave Carlton and is very happy where he is.

Simple effective communication. Sigh...

I don't see why they don't just put out the minimum which is plainly obvious something like 'Christian is currently recovering from a traumatic period and is not in a position to speak publicly yet. We appreciate the clubs patience with this matter' etc.

That would at least get the media off his back. They're going to town on him.

Edited August 27 by Young Blood

[Demonland 70,216]

1 minute ago, Jjrogan said:

@adonski load the Carlton death ride thread please.  Giddy up. 

[danielE288 774]

The more time this goes on, the more likely it is he wont be a Melbourne player next year. Prepare yourselves, folks.

[Demonland 70,216]

If you want to enrage your Carlton mates ...

You're welcome

[Moonshadow 17,464]

32 minutes ago, rufus said:

Yep. I actually agree with premise that we should be looking at youth right now...but picks like 11 this year and next year just won't cut it. Nor would scraps like Cerra or McKay. Carlton and Collingwood just don't have the assets to make an acceptable deal.

So, we stand firm and find the best deal for us. If he is unhappy enough that he's willing to break a significant contract, one that has implications for our club beyond this player himself, then we should assume he'd be happier pretty much anywhere else. So, highest bidder it is.

I agree.

There are few clubs that have the capital to trade with us or want to give up what he's worth.

He's a top 5 player in the league at his prime, regardless of the injury.

Club stands firm, he either stays and be part of the solution or if he goes we get what we want in return.

[daisycutter 29,289]

2 hours ago, Macca said:

His injuries are very real, nothing needs to be exaggerated or over-cooked

Right now, he can't even go for a light jog and it's just 6 weeks to the trade window

What's alarming is that his heart rate can't go above 100 (for now)

During trade week (or beforehand) another suitor may well ask Petracca to go for a medical.  How is he going to pass a medical?

Now, he may well come good but when?

Let's reverse it ... would we as a club pursue a player with these obvious medical issues? 

 

macca, i don't see why petracca can't make a full recovery.

i've mentioned it before but my brother had a very similar incident. his spleen was so bad they removed it entirely. he also played out the game only collapsing when he got home. dr said he was 30m from dying. anyway he missed the rest of the season, but then went on to play a further 5 years at state level footy.

now all that was about 50 years ago and i'm damn sure medicine has improved since then

[Dodos Demons 235]

41 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I don’t think he’ll front up next year if we make him stay. So what would that mean contractually? Obviously miss Match payments, but could he play the mental health card to at least get something his way aka Ben Simmons’s tactic?

That would destroy his brand so would definitely avoid IMV.

So as Buckley has said we hold firm, get some solid offers from GCS, North, Richmond and give him an ultimatum. We control the outcome no matter how much of a tantrum he throws. 

Imagine the bidding war that could eventuate (may already be happening behind closed doors)

Edited August 27 by Dodos Demons
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[OhMyDees 1,824]

If Trac retires next year - what is a fair compo from the AFL 1 or 2 first rounders?

[beelzebub 23,175]

1 minute ago, Dodos Demons said:

Imagine the bidding war that could enevtuste (may already be happening behind closed doors)

We can only hope ...

 

[DeeZee 7,296]

No hope in hell are we giving him up for nothing.

No future first rounders.

A top 5 gun , for a gun or two , or three first round picks.

Lets see who really wants him.

i reckon Richmond are the only club that could do this deal. 

[dees189227 12,020]

Wouldn't see nathan jones, Jim stynes or Robbie flower carry on like this

[Demonland 70,216]

5 minutes ago, OhMyDees said:

If Trac retires next year - what is a fair compo from the AFL 1 or 2 first rounders?

Not sure that is even an option.

[Fat Tony 5,071]

Carlton's salary cap would be tight as a drum. Any trade there would have to involve multiple players being moved out.

The Pies have no picks and would also have a tight salary cap.

We are going to ask for the world and fair enough too.

I still think he will most likely be a Demon in six weeks and we should plan accordingly.

 

[Young Blood 2,242]

6 minutes ago, OhMyDees said:

If Trac retires next year - what is a fair compo from the AFL 1 or 2 first rounders?

Same as what we got for Gus

[raDeelaide 248]

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If you want to enrage your Carlton mates ...

You're welcome

Rumour has it he missed that goal.

[Macca 16,603]

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

macca, i don't see why petracca can't make a full recovery.

i've mentioned it before but my brother had a very similar incident. his spleen was so bad they removed it entirely. he also played out the game only collapsing when he got home. dr said he was 30m from dying. anyway he missed the rest of the season, but then went on to play a further 5 years at state level  footy.

now all that was about 50 years ago and i'm damn sure medicine has improved since then

That's one example but each medical emergency is possibly/probably different from the next.  

I'll take the conservative view that I can't see how he can pass a medical before the trade window ends

Besides all that, is he going to be the same player if and when he returns anyway?  

Would we willingly take him if it was roles reversed?  I'd say a majority on this site alone would say no

Most here don't want a fit & firing Houston

But a banged up 29yo who can't even go on a light jog and with what seems like a million issues?  No thanks

Ask your friends and acquaintances about whether they'd want him?  

 

[manny100 1,386]

Tracc is on a long term contract. North would be interested in him for sure. Pick 2 and compo pick 20 for starters.

Tracc is 28 and hitting his straps.

Tracc can get 2 slices of the pie - gets out of the Dees and gets a local club.

We only get one slice of the pie - a live with deal. Still overall balanced in Traccs favour but i can live with it.

Contacts = 2 way give and take

 

 

[reynolds46 1,039]

Just now, Fat Tony said:

Carlton's salary cap would be tight as a drum.....

that's never stopped them before.

[No. 31 1,052]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

No hope in hell are we giving him up for nothing.

No future first rounders.

A top 5 gun , for a gun or two , or three first round picks.

Lets see who really wants him.

i reckon Richmond are the only club that could do this deal. 

I suspect that Richmond will go into full rebuild mode via the draft. A player like Tracc would have been great for them couple of years ago, to squeeze in one more flag. Now they need the high draft picks.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,497]

Not smart business from the Trac camp if you ask me. Yes he’s been through a traumatic experience this year but my advice would be to get back on the field first before starting this “I’m taking my talents to south beach” nonsense. 

Fine, if you wanna play in front of the big crowds cos that’s what think you you deserve (you [censored]) but there’s plenty to go right before you even get back out in front of any crowd. Maybe he thinks it’s now or never cos he’s realised the impermanence of existence but can’t imagine it going down well if the Blues or Filth or whoever put up a whole bunch of picks and players and their fans get to watch cooking vids from Noosa while he spends 2025 in recovery. 

Trying to back us into a corner by dropping every excuse under the sun is hurting us but if he can’t be honest about it with himself, the club or his teammates and won’t front up to the fans then he can sit on the bench at Casey next year for all I care and we can reassess whether he’d like to be a little less demanding about where he plays in 2026. 

Some players want to carry their club, some want to be put on a pedestal. Patty Cripps had any reasons over the past decade to be a bit miffed with the blues? He’s stayed and carried that club when it would’ve been easier to walk to a contender. Give me a leader like that any day of the week. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,584]

Just now, Fat Tony said:

 

I still think he will most likely be a Demon in six weeks and we should plan accordingly.

 

I agree. I think serious meditation is needed between the parties. If The MFC are still not entirely sure what all the grievances are then, meditation sessions must happen soon. 
At least we have 6 weeks…

[titan_uranus 24,557]

14 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Unlike Harry Mckays manager who's simply stated that Harry doesn't want to leave Carlton and is very happy where he is.

Simple effective communication. Sigh...

I don't see why they don't just put out the minimum which is plainly obvious something like 'Christian is currently recovering from a traumatic period and is not in a position to speak publicly yet. We appreciate the clubs patience with this matter' etc.

That would at least get the media off his back. They're going to town on him.

That sort of statement would do absolutely nothing. The media would go to town on it ("Petracca refuses to commit"). Members and Demonlanders would do the same.

[Jaded No More 67,599]

North would be one club where we could get a win win trade. They need mature experience and someone to set standards, and they have a picks and players we would be interested in, anyone from LDU down to Larky. 

What a shame that Trac would not be caught dead at Arden st.