PREGAME: Rd 10 vs West Coast

[spirit of norm smith 15,035]

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I think GWS offered him a permanent starting 22 role, and that’s what he really wanted and couldn’t get at Melbourne. 

Ditto. 👏👏👏truth . 

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1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Ditto. 👏👏👏truth . 

No such thing as a guaranteed starting spot when you are a fringe player at best. A starting spots is earned. 🙌

[Kent 2,852]

2 hours ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

There you go, INS - McAdam, Salem and BBB

Pretty happy with that. 

Salem better have a blinder thinking he is past it

This game will tell he can't hide and no excuses he is picked he is ready

Mistake in my view. Hope I'm wrong 

[Fat Tony 5,068]

Salem a chance to be the sub this week given he’s coming back from injury. 

It looks like Petty will be second ruck. 

[old55 22,727]

2 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

There muth be something I can add, but I can’t think of it right now.

@demon muth

Muth-win game

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22 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Salem a chance to be the sub this week given he’s coming back from injury. 

It looks like Petty will be second ruck. 

Could be good for him. He has a pretty good leap, he's competitive, and has a tendancy to drift out of games so this will help keep him involved.

Hope his foot doesn't blow up though obviously.

[deanox 9,620]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes. Play someone as a sub for 11 games in a season … then offer a contract.  Jordon and Bedford weren’t given the opportunity and saw better chances elsewhere.  That’s the uncomfortable truth of it.  

I'm not sure this is uncomfortable for many.

We rated Jordan enough to offer him a 3 year contract and he was regularly in our best 23, in fact we selected him in that best 65 times over three years. Bedford 16 times in his last season with us 

I'm sure we said to both of them that we faith in them improving and becoming a more permanent fixture in our best 22, but also that the next steps of their development were around how hard they worked and where they developed. I'm sure both the players and the club understood they'd need to push someone out of the team.

So when an opposition club comes and says "here is our best 22, and this is your position and your role" and you ask them who the competition for that spot it, and their answer is players you believe you have comfortably covered, then it's not a surprise what they chose - the guarantee of play time.

 

[spirit of norm smith 15,035]

10 minutes ago, deanox said:

I'm not sure this is uncomfortable for many.

We rated Jordan enough to offer him a 3 year contract and he was regularly in our best 23, in fact we selected him in that best 65 times over three years. Bedford 16 times in his last season with us 

I'm sure we said to both of them that we faith in them improving and becoming a more permanent fixture in our best 22, but also that the next steps of their development were around how hard they worked and where they developed. I'm sure both the players and the club understood they'd need to push someone out of the team.

So when an opposition club comes and says "here is our best 22, and this is your position and your role" and you ask them who the competition for that spot it, and their answer is players you believe you have comfortably covered, then it's not a surprise what they chose - the guarantee of play time.

 

Agree they were in our best “23” as the sub over and over and over again. It was monotonous.  Clearly they were both targeted by other clubs (Giants and Swans) as players of talent that were denied regular footy and they have shown their talent.  Jordon in particular would have been a key player for us in the midfield rotation this year with Gus’ retiring.  

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5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree they were in our best “23” as the sub over and over and over again. It was monotonous.  Clearly they were both targeted by other clubs (Giants and Swans) as players of talent that were denied regular footy and they have shown their talent.  Jordon in particular would have been a key player for us in the midfield rotation this year with Gus’ retiring.  

But until 2 weeks before the season he would have been sub at best. 

[Sydee 4,174]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes. Play someone as a sub for 11 games in a season … then offer a contract.  Jordon and Bedford weren’t given the opportunity and saw better chances elsewhere.  That’s the uncomfortable truth of it.  

I always liked both of them but tbh Jordan would still struggle to get a game and Bedford is really Kozzy for GWS so not sure either would get games 

[dees189227 12,017]

Remember years ago when a player would miss dueto personal reasons & everyone would speculate.  Now nothings said which is good.

I think Ben Brown will straighten us up looking forward to seeing what McAdam can do

[spirit of norm smith 15,035]

Like to see what McAdam can deliver 

[layzie 32,686]

I'm 87% sure we'll win without Langdon

[Pennant St Dee 12,643]

10 hours ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

I prefer not to remember.

Hint: not good.

It’s better then our finals record since 2021

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On 16/05/2024 at 18:29, Wells 11 said:

Langdon out for personal reason. Hope he’s ok. 

 

On 16/05/2024 at 18:40, whatwhat say what said:

hopefully positive lingers is okay

i think it'll be mcadam, salem, fullarton in

I heard a rumour that Langdon was staying home awaiting childbirth (not him, his partner)???

10 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

I think this is fair, but there is some 20/20 hindsight here.

I would far prefer 2021 hindsight

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,297]

2 hours ago, Sydee said:

I always liked both of them but tbh Jordan would still struggle to get a game and Bedford is really Kozzy for GWS so not sure either would get games 

Based on his form and the specialised role he’s playing, and the form of our midfield this year, Jordon would be a lock in our starting 22 and would  be higher in the B&F than our other mids such as Sparrow, Clarry and possibly Viney.

Plus, with the absence of Brayshaw, we’ve got some midfield vacancy IMO.

Edited May 17 by Bring-Back-Powell

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9 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

1-3.

The win came against North in round 10 2022.

Two losses against the Dockers.

At least we know we can still defeat bottom of the ladder teams 😂

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Based on his form and the specialised role he’s playing, and the form of our midfield this year, Jordon would be a lock in our starting 22 and would  be higher in the B&F than our other mids such as Sparrow, Clarry and possibly Viney.

Plus, with the absence of Brayshaw, we’ve got some midfield vacancy IMO.

Um no! Jordon NQR at Dees but playing well at Swans BUT CLARRY, VINES are a little um not quite yet at optimum levels

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,826]

Both Bedford and Jordon were around the mark for the Dees but had their chances to lock in spots in the year they moved on but never capitalised. We offered deals on both and they were targeted by teams with more cash and clearer roles for them. Jordon is very well suited to the SCG in particular and if Gus was on the list there would only be the ongoing argument as to he vs Sparrow in our rotation. Otherwise his situation would not have changed. 

Bedford again was offered a contract with us but did not back himself in to push ahead of Spargo in our small forward set up in 2023. 

It’s good to see both of them have positive starts with their new clubs but you cant say we did not try and retain them. The question is whether we gave them enough opportunity prior to their departure. Being they both played more than 15 games (noted some as sub) each in their final year with us it’s hard to argue we didn’t.

 

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9 hours ago, monoccular said:

 

I heard a rumour that Langdon was staying home awaiting childbirth (not him, his partner)???

I would far prefer 2021 hindsight

I'm hoping it's all good news.

I think he is vital to our success.

The most phenomenal runner in the comp and like having 2 players the way he follows up.

Gives Billings a reprieve.

[picket fence 16,624]

Billings has been steadily improving on every outing, very good ball user!

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1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Billings has been steadily improving on every outing, very good ball user!

Definitely...except when kicking at goal or further than 30 metres. But I do like him, maintains a calm facade and tackling/defensive efforts have been better last 2 weeks, IMV

[leave it to deever 17,442]

Hoping Woey gets a full game. He deserves it. Preferably up fwd or probably to take Langers position on the flank.  Will our fwd line kick enough goals? It's seems really just down to Kozzie and Fritta this year.

I hope Milkshake can get back to the team this year and soon. Unless Petty hits a golden patch we will really struggle to kick enough goals. Maybe the new fwd line injuries and subsequent replacements this round may be fortuitous.

These are the games on paper we should win but cause a rise in Mfcss. 😄

 

[Young Angus 684]

We recruited McAdam to kick goals and really be another Melksham, I see them as similar types anyway and we love Melksham he is so important to our forward line so imagine if McAdam turned out to be properly similar...wouldn't that be excellent!  Hope he can put on a show this weekend with our other forwards, I'm excited to see what he brings, this is why we got him.

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