PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

[Dr. Gonzo 22,522]

22 minutes ago, praha said:

I just watched snippets of Goodwin's press conference on Instagram. He looks exhausted.

https://instagram.com/stories/melbournefc/3189969459331402096?igshid=ODk2MDJkZDc2Zg==

He knows we blew a golden opportunity and now will be struggling to get past Carlton let alone Brisbane.

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,486]

7 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Deep down he knows we’re a chance but he’s been hurt so many times he can’t show that to this cruel and unforgiving world. His heart, damaged through years of thrashings can’t bare sharing what he really feels anymore. Because inside what he feels is a roar so loud he’s not sure he can contain it. A roar so powerful as to help inspire his team to a victory. At the 15 minute mark of the 3rd quarter look high up in the stands on the East side, for that roar will finally be unleashed and the game will be won. Now get this man a ticket!

I know what you mean. Supporting Melbourne is kind of like bondage. Deep down you know it’s going to hurt but in some sick kind of way you still love it and go back for more. 

[layzie 29,087]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He knows we blew a golden opportunity and now will be struggling to get past Carlton let alone Brisbane.

I just hope we don't come out completely flat on Friday as a result of this. The boys have had a rough trot this week and if they manage to get their heads in the game I would be extremely impressed. 

[Roost it far 6,236]

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

I just hope we don't come out completely flat on Friday as a result of this. The boys have had a rough trot this week and if they manage to get their heads in the game I would be extremely impressed. 

They better come out switched on…..there’s no excuses……we’ve used them all up this week. 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

3 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Totally disagree at worse we are the second best team in the finals. If we find a way to straighten up we win the next three games in a canter. 

That's a big if and pretty much only Fritch to kick them, smalls might get a look but I don't see any of our available tasks troubling the score board.

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

Weren’t you just looking for a spare ticket to this game in another thread? Why bother?

Doesn't mean I don't want to be there to support even if I believe we will lose, will be sweeter in the off chance we win.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

26 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

 

Yet you still want to go, that’s commitment 

💯

[Dee Zephyr 17,717]

Hibbo will make sure this isn't his last game. Been a [censored] 6 days but let us get into game mode now. At least we will get a nice night for $11 frothies.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

22 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Deep down he knows we’re a chance but he’s been hurt so many times he can’t show that to this cruel and unforgiving world. His heart, damaged through years of thrashings can’t bare sharing what he really feels anymore. Because inside what he feels is a roar so loud he’s not sure he can contain it. A roar so powerful as to help inspire his team to a victory. At the 15 minute mark of the 3rd quarter look high up in the stands on the East side, for that roar will finally be unleashed and the game will be won. Now get this man a ticket!

You stared straight into my soul and exposed my very being Roost. Everytime I have a little confidence and calm in this team they hurt me so I do what is human nature, I attempt to hurt them back in the form of showing no faith in them so they can prove me wrong.

[Clintosaurus 6,535]

2 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

I love your overt cynicism (and probably subscribe a touch to it) -any thoughts on why they don't do this EVERY year?

Last year was a retirement gift to Selwood (and a flag for Danger). Now to claw back the COVID losses.

[old55 21,375]

6 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Last year was a retirement gift to Selwood (and a flag for Danger). Now to claw back the COVID losses.

Nice tin foil hat Clint. Whether Carlton or Melbourne win the PF in Brisbane and the GF will be sell outs. There's no extra revenue in a Carlton flag.

[old55 21,375]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

It's frustrating how some people are now saying we should have had Grundy in. Was a lone wolf even suggesting him as the sub.

Seriously? Who would you have had Grundy in for in the QF. As it turned out we lost a key mid in Brayshaw early and his replacement Laurie was unable to fill the breach. It would have been even worse if Grundy was the sub. And if he'd been in the 22 that would have further hindered our run - Max carried the ruck just fine.

Grundy is a consideration this week for JVR. But would have hurt more than helped last week.

[Diamond Tim 291]

The coaching staff have a huge task leading into this Friday night. Time to really shows us what they've got and the measures will include:

* having the team focus on the tasks at hand for the blues game amidst all the maynard noise

* using the attack on gus as a motivation to win

* rectifying the delivery into the fwd 50

* rectifying how the forwards present and finish

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,270]

5 minutes ago, old55 said:

Nice tin foil hat Clint. Whether Carlton or Melbourne win the PF in Brisbane and the GF will be sell outs. There's no extra revenue in a Carlton flag.

Perhaps he thinks that only a Collingwood V Carlton grand final will sell out, and that if Carlton don't make it, the ground will only be 75% full??

[jnrmac 19,088]

If we don't come firing out of the blocks then I for one will be calling for Goodwins head.

We simply cannot play this as a normal game. We cannot get behind by three goals - again.

 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

2 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

The coaching staff have a huge task leading into this Friday night. Time to really shows us what they've got and the measures will include:

* having the team focus on the tasks at hand for the blues game amidst all the maynard noise

* using the attack on gus as a motivation to win

* rectifying the delivery into the fwd 50

* rectifying how the forwards present and finish

 

Training this week to consist of nothing but goal kicking lol

[fr_ap 2,148]

1 hour ago, praha said:

Carlton will be lucky to get passed us and if they do Brisbane will beat them by 80 points.

Where is this attitude coming from? They beat us fair and square (both in real score, expected score and most key indicators) and have lost one game in 3 months. Why do people think they don't deserve to be here?

[Clintosaurus 6,535]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Perhaps he thinks that only a Collingwood V Carlton grand final will sell out, and that if Carlton don't make it, the ground will only be 75% full??

Nah, it's all the extra merch HQ gets a cut of etc. Media has been selling the narrative of Pies/Blues since the pre-finals bye.

That said, there's a pretty big narrative of us v Pies now too. Whoever wins Friday will beat Brisbane.

[leucopogon 1,468]

2 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Training this week to consist of nothing but goal kicking lol

Not the worst idea. I'd add, leading patterns, decoys, and crumbling to the list as well.

[old55 21,375]

6 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Nah, it's all the extra merch HQ gets a cut of etc. Media has been selling the narrative of Pies/Blues since the pre-finals bye.

That said, there's a pretty big narrative of us v Pies now too. Whoever wins Friday will beat Brisbane.

So for a percentage of incremental merchandise sales the AFL is going to engineer a Carlton-Collingwood GF? OK, all I can say is it must be hard going if that's your model of reality.

[Ferghus31 42]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

It's frustrating how some people are now saying we should have had Grundy in. Was a lone wolf even suggesting him as the sub.

Totally Agree but Goodwin does not look at history and doesnt take risks all season our forwards were the problem except when Petty and Melk applied defensive Pressure he is the problem for not fixing this also our assistant coaches incl Choco should demand fixing before its too LATE

[layzie 29,087]

32 minutes ago, old55 said:

Seriously? Who would you have had Grundy in for in the QF. As it turned out we lost a key mid in Brayshaw early and his replacement Laurie was unable to fill the breach. It would have been even worse if Grundy was the sub. And if he'd been in the 22 that would have further hindered our run - Max carried the ruck just fine.

Grundy is a consideration this week for JVR. But would have hurt more than helped last week.

And that's why people like you were here to remind me that this would have been a bad move.

Seeing a lot of knee-jerk and hindsight talk about how this would have been the call to make after the fact. The sensible view is yours in my opinion. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by layzie

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Out: JVR, Brayshaw, Laurie

In: Grundy, Spargo, Tomlinson

 

Despite all the players out, I still had trouble fitting everyone in.

This is a team that can beat Carlton:

 

FB: Hibberd May Bowey

HB: Rivers Lever Salem

C: Langdon Sparrow Hunter

HF: Chandler Gawn ANB

FF: McDonald Fritsch Petracca

Foll: Grundy Oliver Viney

Int: Spargo Smith Pickett McVee

Sub: Tomlinson

[Roost it far 6,236]

5 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Out: JVR, Brayshaw, Laurie

In: Grundy, Spargo, Tomlinson

 

Despite all the players out, I still had trouble fitting everyone in.

This is a team that can beat Carlton:

 

FB: Hibberd May Bowey

HB: Rivers Lever Salem

C: Langdon Sparrow Hunter

HF: Chandler Gawn ANB

FF: McDonald Fritsch Petracca

Foll: Grundy Oliver Viney

Int: Spargo Smith Pickett McVee

Sub: Tomlinson

It’s good 

[old dee 22,930]

After last night I am at the I really don’t care point. Part of me says end the pain on Friday. I can then enjoy my holiday in QLD with  my daughter and Grandchildren. 

[Superunknown 3,354]

51 minutes ago, old55 said:

So for a percentage of incremental merchandise sales the AFL is going to engineer a Carlton-Collingwood GF? OK, all I can say is it must be hard going if that's your model of reality.

TV ratings = corporate partners (advertisers ) happy. Gots ta pay the billz. 
 

Lest there be any doubt about what reigns supreme here (hint: based on the AFL’s cack-handed prosecution last night, it’s not player safety or game integrity), it’s money. I’m left in no doubt after hearing of Brownie’s account of a conversation overheard between some afl marketing types last week.