waynewussell 6,976 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. 7 6 2 4 Quote
Little Goffy 14,963 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 He definitely had a form slump but it was far from catastrophic in scale and a very normal experience for a small forward. It has also been over for a couple of weeks and people need to also get over it. Having said that, I really want to him to lift to his best again because he still needs 18 goals int he remaining 8 H&A games to keep up his '40-goals-a-season' amazing track record... and... he is one of the handful of players who could actually turn the season back our way if he hits top form. 8 Quote
Cyclops 512 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, waynewussell said: The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. Kossie giving away more free kicks is minor concern though combined with his lack of free kicks awarded it is worrying particularly as most are in the forward half. Unfortunately I believe that Kossie is now in the umpires book under "small forwards who duck". True or not there are legitimate free kicks that need to be,awarded such as the one not awarded to Adelaide last week that might have changed the result. I fear that Spargo may also be in the umpires book under the same heading. 6 1 Quote
DeeZone 10,590 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Totally agree Cyclops I have noticed a number of blatant free’s not paid for head high tackles and holding him on the ground after tackles. Kozzie doesn’t get a fair deal from the magoo’s.!!! 9 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,730 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Kozzy is also playing significantly more TOG. As an example, he played 93% TOG against GWS. An insane number for a small forward, and clearly it's robbing him of creativity and energy. I just hope that strategy pays off in the end and we can use him in CBs again like we did in the first 9-10 Rounds. 5 1 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Cyclops said: Kossie giving away more free kicks is minor concern though combined with his lack of free kicks awarded it is worrying particularly as most are in the forward half. Unfortunately I believe that Kossie is now in the umpires book under "small forwards who duck". True or not there are legitimate free kicks that need to be,awarded such as the one not awarded to Adelaide last week that might have changed the result. I fear that Spargo may also be in the umpires book under the same heading. I think Spargo will have a whole chapter. He's earned it and needs to understand that ducking into tackles doesn't work anymore. 1 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,023 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, waynewussell said: The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. D'land is not a forum for facts. Please cease and desist @waynewussell. 2 2 1 Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, waynewussell said: The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. Fair point. Also the opposition have worked out how to limit his impact on the game. 3 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, dl4e said: Fair point. Also the opposition have worked out how to limit his impact on the game. Rarely ever see Kossie without an opponent breathing down his neck. Tagged every game. 5 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, dl4e said: Fair point. Also the opposition have worked out how to limit his impact on the game. Part of it's the way we play too. It's often and extremely crowded forward half. If we can isolate him a bit with quicker ball movement then there will be a lot of worried defenders around. 5 Quote
BigFez 1,491 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I'm guilty of thinking every game of his was going to be like his round 1 performance against the dogs. 5 Quote
Young Blood 2,642 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I do think a lot of the expectation on Kozzy is a bit much at times. Kid just turned 22, playing one of the hardest positions on the ground. I've felt like the rest of the team that defensively he has been good the last month or so. He's just not positioning himself as well at times during games without the ball. With the smaller lineup I really hope we can get out transition game moving off turnovers again to give him some actual space to work one on one. He's actually one player besides Fritsch who can get decent separation from his man-off of leads. I just think far too often the congestion in the forward half due to our ball movement makes it so difficult. 3 Quote
Roost it far 10,136 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Play him and Petracca alone in the forward half, get Brown and Melksham to hit up to the wings and the other smalls to help link up through middle. 1 Quote
ElDiablo14 5,055 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, dl4e said: Fair point. Also the opposition have worked out how to limit his impact on the game. This! Statistically he may be trending similar to previous seasons, however the perceived impact has decreased in my view. In 2021 and even 2022, it genuinely felt like he was a match winning player. This season sometimes the patches of good football come during less impactful parts of a match (say in the second quarter instead of the last in a tight contest). 2 Quote
Bystander 903 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, DeeZone said: Totally agree Cyclops I have noticed a number of blatant free’s not paid for head high tackles and holding him on the ground after tackles. Kozzie doesn’t get a fair deal from the magoo’s.!!! Far be it from me to step on anyone's literary toes, particularly on demonland, but, in Australian slang, "magoos" means a lower level of competition, not the umpires. E.g. "He will be in the magoos if he keeps that rubbish up". Edited July 7, 2023 by Bystander Punctuation 2 2 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Let's show the guy some support, dry track, time to bag a hatful. 2 1 Quote
leucopogon 1,519 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 My eyes don't lie, and he has been well below what he is capable of ever since the first couple of weeks. I'm not wishing him ill, just hope he can turn it around. 5 1 Quote
DeeZone 10,590 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bystander said: Far be it from me to step on anyone's literary toes, particularly on demonland, but, in Australian slang, "magoos" means a lower level of competition, not the umpires. E.g. "He will be in the magoos if he keeps that rubbish up". Understand Bystander I was trying to be subtle re: Umpires vision like Mr Magoo. Unfortunately my footy skills or lack thereof would have sentenced me to the magoo’s. Lol.!!! 1 Quote
waynewussell 6,976 Posted July 7, 2023 Author Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, leucopogon said: My eyes don't lie, and he has been well below what he is capable of ever since the first couple of weeks. I'm not wishing him ill, just hope he can turn it around. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,730 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I'll still back Kozzy kick his 40 goals again this year. 22 goals so far. He is an excellent small forward for his age. 2 1 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 9 hours ago, waynewussell said: The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. Really WW ! All your figures prove what people are saying snd that is Kossie is not playing as well as he can. This is his fourth year now and we all would have expected him to raise the bar especially after Round1 's tremendous form when playing in the centre ball ups and a bit round the ground! (He has not done this recently and Goody should be asked why). I believe his impact is much less and you didn't even mention the over the top attempts for MOC which ha has no fit near any at all and should be waiting front and centre or at the back for crumbs to kick goals. Oh and the free kicks especially down the ground are costly. Your poor attempt to say that others are wrong has misfired blatantly snd I love Kossie but he has got to be more team orientated and impactful now more than ever with Fritta and Clarry out. 3 1 1 Quote
Billy 2,575 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 He’s been ordinary since he’s signed the new contract. Before posters jump all over me, we are allowed to criticise sub par performances & Kozzie has been pretty poor & had little impact for the past 6 weeks Im not sugarcoating anything at the moment the club & players have sub par of late & we’re wasting a very good list 6 1 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 His form is down like everyone else’s. However he’s more likely than most to be the one to provide the spark to get our season going again. 7 Quote
Demons11 7,148 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 10 hours ago, waynewussell said: The criticism of Kossie’s contribution throughout 2023 by several DL’s is not supported by statistics! 2023 Average Disposals (11.46) +1 on 2022, -0.38 on 2021 2023 Goal Average (1.7) equal to 2022 & 2021 2023 Tackle Average (4.7) double 2022, +1.2 on 2021 2023 Contested Poss Av (5.6) slightly above 2022, -1.2 on 2021 2023 1% Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 Goal Assist Average (1) above 2022 & 2021 The only significant difference in 2023 as compared to 2022 & 2021 is in his free kick differential. Kossie is giving away significantly more frees while being awarded fewer himself. His stats may be standing up compared to previous years but my expectation would be that he should be exceeding these numbers by now 7 Quote
praha 11,267 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 He's tracking thereabouts with Eddie Betts and Jeff Farmer at the same age. Similar in some areas to Cyril Rioli at the same age but Cyril did way more work around the ground and had more impact, more often. He's doing okay without setting the world on fire. But he looked great in round 1 and stifled his own momentum a bit. 2 Quote
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