27 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Bailey Smith's ACL has just opened the door for Harmes at the Bulldogs while also reducing the chances that the trade could come back to bite us.

I'm still kind of hoping things work out well for Harmes individually. Especially if he has a bunch of performance triggers in his contract to soak up some salary cap space so that the Dogs can't afford to keep Tim English!

Not sure that Harmes plays that line breaking role that Smith plays.

He had a falling out with Goodwin last year.

4 minutes ago, Super Sub Schache said:

He had a falling out with Goodwin last year.

Harmes kept asking him if he thought he was the right guy

Forever be a premierships Dee’s  player , unfortunately need list mgt will always see premiership players moved on.  Ellis from the tigers etc wish him the best 

I need a history lesson : l know he was dropped to Casey , but at what stage of 2023 ?

And who took his position?

Wish him well at the Doggies.

Thanks

He had a personal issue which meant he didn't train for a period at the start of the season. He didn't lose his spot to anyone in particular.

He then had a minor injury in Rounds 19-23 and couldn't get back into the team for finals.

He was dropped after the Brisbane game in round 2. Came back in for 2 games here and 2 games there before once again being dropped for Kings BDAY. I don't know who his replacement was.

In rounds 20 and 21 he was brought back into the side as a last ditch attempt to be a part of our midfield rotation.

Unfortunately for Harmes he was so devoid of confidence that he missed regulation set shots against Richmond that the old James Harmes would kick in his sleep. Then the following week in Hobart he couldn't even execute a 20 metre pass to an open and spare teammate next to the boundary line as his errant ball rolled out of play. 

I suspect Goodwin and Co lost trust in him by then and put a line through him before finals. 

Edited January 19, 20241 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

He would be handy if Brayshaw has lingering head issues and Oliver doesn't come back for a while.

Edited January 19, 20241 yr by Demons1858

On 14/12/2023 at 13:37, Little Goffy said:

Bailey Smith's ACL has just opened the door for Harmes at the Bulldogs while also reducing the chances that the trade could come back to bite us.

I'm still kind of hoping things work out well for Harmes individually. Especially if he has a bunch of performance triggers in his contract to soak up some salary cap space so that the Dogs can't afford to keep Tim English!

Highly doubt so. 

Harmes has a some making up to do as he turned up in poor shape day 1 of the Dogs pre season which Bevo and the coaching staff were simply not happy about.

He'll certainly play games, but it certainly won't be every week in the AFL.

Ahhh ... Harmesy.
The lifelong Demons supporter who managed to pull on a Melbourne jumper and win us a drought breaking flag.
He'll be forever smiling at me with his premiership medal from my shed wall.
Good luck in all future endeavours to a forking legend.

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Highly doubt so. 

Harmes has a some making up to do as he turned up in poor shape day 1 of the Dogs pre season which Bevo and the coaching staff were simply not happy about.

He'll certainly play games, but it certainly won't be every week in the AFL.

I didn't hear about that. Perhaps loosing the passion? 

9 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Ahhh ... Harmesy.
The lifelong Demons supporter who managed to pull on a Melbourne jumper and win us a drought breaking flag.
He'll be forever smiling at me with his premiership medal from my shed wall.
Good luck in all future endeavours to a forking legend.

Magnificent I50 kick to Fritschy that really got us rolling.

19 hours ago, Dannyz said:

He had a personal issue which meant he didn't train for a period at the start of the season. He didn't lose his spot to anyone in particular.

He then had a minor injury in Rounds 19-23 and couldn't get back into the team for finals.

IMO his disposal fell apart.

His turnovers made him unplayable.

A very good Demon for a long time and wish him well at his new club. 

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Harmes has a some making up to do as he turned up in poor shape day 1 of the Dogs pre season which Bevo and the coaching staff were simply not happy about.

 

That is surprising if true, as most players starting again at a new club, usually put in the effort to arrive in good condition, to impress their club and give themselves the best chance of success.

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That is surprising if true, as most players starting again at a new club, usually put in the effort to arrive in good condition, to impress their club and give themselves the best chance of success.

Yes and no.

Steven May, by his own admission and the club, turned up in poor condition at the Dees which obviously played a huge part in his 2019 being injury riddled.

No coincidence that since then, his preparation has resulted him in a couple of All Australians and rated as one of the best full backs of the game.

 

20 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He was dropped after the Brisbane game in round 2. Came back in for 2 games here and 2 games there before once again being dropped for Kings BDAY. I don't know who his replacement was.

In rounds 20 and 21 he was brought back into the side as a last ditch attempt to be a part of our midfield rotation.

Unfortunately for Harmes he was so devoid of confidence that he missed regulation set shots against Richmond that the old James Harmes would kick in his sleep. Then the following week in Hobart he couldn't even execute a 20 metre pass to an open and spare teammate next to the boundary line as his errant ball rolled out of play. 

I suspect Goodwin and Co lost trust in him by then and put a line through him before finals. 

Melbourne - 2023
Gm	Opponent	Rd	R	#	KI	MK	HB	DI	GL	BH	HO	TK	RB	IF	CL	CG	FF	FA	BR	CP	UP	CM	MI	1%	BO	GA	%P
	Totals	9 (6-0-3)			50	13	61	111	1	5		31	2	21	16	25	5	10		47	72		2	7	2	1
144	Western Bulldogs	1	W	4	6	3	9	15				4		3	1					6	10						74
145	Brisbane Lions	2	L	4	3		7	10				2			2	5		4		5	5					1	57
146↑	North Melbourne	7	W	4	1		2	3				2								1	2				2		16
147↑	Gold Coast	8	W	4	4	1	2	6		1		1		3	1					2	5			1			18
148	Fremantle	11	L	4	7	2	7	14	1	2		7		3	1	3	3	1		8	9			3			64
149↑	Carlton	12	W	4	2		3	5				1		1	2	2		1		3	3						26
150	Greater Western Sydney	16	L	4	10	2	9	19				4	1	3	2	6	1	1		7	12			1			71
151	Richmond	20	W	4	8	3	11	19		2		4	1	3	4	2		1		7	12		2	1			74
152	North Melbourne	21	W	4	9	2	11	20				6		5	3	7	1	2		8	14			1			74

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes and no.

Steven May, by his own admission and the club, turned up in poor condition at the Dees which obviously played a huge part in his 2019 being injury riddled.

No coincidence that since then, his preparation has resulted him in a couple of All Australians and rated as one of the best full backs of the game.

 

 I did say “ most” not “all”.

Let's not forget the kick to Dean Kent at Optus which Kent then goaled from to seal our first finals appearance in 12 years. IMO just as good as the Grand Final effort.

I think his downward spiral occurred when they tried him on the HBF.

Was a standout according to reports in the Dogs match sim up at Maroochydore. Kicked 4 goals. 

37 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Was a standout according to reports in the Dogs match sim up at Maroochydore. Kicked 4 goals. 

Pretty good for someone who supposedly turned up to the first training session “in poor condition.”

 I trust Bevo and the coaching staff are happy. 

 

Edited February 1, 20241 yr by WalkingCivilWar

14 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Pretty good for someone who supposedly turned up to the first training session “in poor condition.”

 I trust Bevo and the coaching staff are happy. 

 

I love the bloke. I hope he finishes top 10 in their B & F. 

But I do also hope he hits Fritsch on the chest again when we play them. 😁

2 hours ago, Palace Dees said:

I love the bloke. I hope he finishes top 10 in their B & F. 

But I do also hope he hits Fritsch on the chest again when we play them. 😁

with the ball, i hope you mean

11 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Was a standout according to reports in the Dogs match sim up at Maroochydore. Kicked 4 goals. 

Let's wait and see how he goes in the season proper, but it would be very bitter sweat to see him go well for the dogs.

I wouldn't begrudge Hamesy at all really in the circumstances, but would really rather him still in the red and blue and kicking the goals for us.