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  On 06/04/2023 at 03:01, sue said:

Demon wings

Too spicy for most!

 

You thread post good.

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With the possible exception of key forwards we seem to have the best players in every position on the field! How come we lose game sometimes!?

Great article. It was pure genius to get Hunter, the way we did. I knew it would be a winner 

2 Gun “Specialist” Wingmen will cause many opposition Headaches 

Also glad to see Oskar getting Senior games


I'm interested in the graphics they show in the analysis where the players (such as Langdon and Hunter) average getting the ball on the field.  They have Langdon smack bang in the centre for 2022 but for the three games in 2023, he is wide on the wing (compared to all other players) which is the mirror to Hunter on the other wing.

My query on this is whether the change is actually because Langdon is playing the wing that suits his kicking foot (eg alternating each quarter) rather than the wing away from the interchange bench that he did before Hunter arrived.

I suspect this is the reason for the change not what the article is actually suggesting.

  On 06/04/2023 at 06:42, deelusions from afar said:

I'm interested in the graphics they show in the analysis where the players (such as Langdon and Hunter) average getting the ball on the field.  They have Langdon smack bang in the centre for 2022 but for the three games in 2023, he is wide on the wing (compared to all other players) which is the mirror to Hunter on the other wing.

My query on this is whether the change is actually because Langdon is playing the wing that suits his kicking foot (eg alternating each quarter) rather than the wing away from the interchange bench that he did before Hunter arrived.

I suspect this is the reason for the change not what the article is actually suggesting.

Actually, I think the opposite. I suspect the gameplan requires Langdon and Hunter to stick to their half of the ground at all times whereas it may not have been a hard and fast rule for the wingmen in previous years.


  On 06/04/2023 at 06:50, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Actually, I think the opposite. I suspect the gameplan requires Langdon and Hunter to stick to their half of the ground at all times whereas it may not have been a hard and fast rule for the wingmen in previous years.

I'm not necessarily disputing that.  But the fact that they had Langdon's average possession in the centre of the ground for last year suggests that because he changed wings each quarter from a statistical point of view (by staying on the same wing for the whole game), it cancels out the extremes from either wing.  There's no way that he was getting most of his posessions in the centre of the ground!

Think of the GF in 2021.  GF | All the goals (I'm sure you won't mind watching this again!) Langdon was on the far side and Gus was always closer to the interchange.  they might come into the centre - particualry in defence (eg to effect a spoil) but mostly they held their width.  Obviously it just passages of play that scored goals - but I can't see any where they're not holding their width.

If I'm right (I think I am) then there's not likely to be significant changes from Langdon - the main change is that the other winger (Hunter) is also holding his wing compared with Jordon / Brayshaw / whoever.  Although a caveat on that is that last year our other winger played other positions during the year and this isn't taken into account in the statistcal analysis.

  On 06/04/2023 at 05:36, layzie said:

Sensational article, that's proper footy journalism. 

Often these deep analytical articles are just too hard to understand, but this one is great and well explained.


  On 06/04/2023 at 06:53, John Demonic said:

The Bulldogs and Dockers

Gold!

 

I thought this would be a Charlie Spargo special negotiation for Gus & Gawny discounts.

Alas, no 'buy 100 wings, get an extra sauce packet free' for us.

Thanks Sue.

Very good article and analysis.  Significant change from 2021/22.

Interesting how theyve completely divided the field between them.

I like

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