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PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Sydney

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4 minutes ago, 640MD said:

It’s clear, if you look at my tips, I know absolutely nothing about football.

thought I did but I do better taking the opposite, 

but I have followed the Dees for more than 67 years.  Is that an excuse or just a reason. Eff it I hope we beat Sydney 

My tipping has started terribly. Thinking of quitting.

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    It will definitely be interesting if we play Judd McVee on Tom Papley.

     

    Hope the Demons come out "breathing fire" against the Swans for two reasons.

    Firstly, to respond to the disappointing loss to the Lions.

    Secondly, as a bit of "pay back" for losing to the Swans in the finals last season.

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    1 hour ago, Supreme_Demon said:

    It will definitely be interesting if we play Judd McVee on Tom Papley.

     

    Hope the Demons come out "breathing fire" against the Swans for two reasons.

    Firstly, to respond to the disappointing loss to the Lions.

    Secondly, as a bit of "pay back" for losing to the Swans in the finals last season.

    That would be nice to pay back the Swans but I thought we were going to do the same last night.

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    Just play JVR.. seriously, he's done his time and deserves reward ahead of the likes of Melksham. 

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    33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Just play JVR.. seriously, he's done his time and deserves reward ahead of the likes of Melksham. 

    Another undeserved Melksham drive-by. He ain’t keeping your boy out.

    Not any of your boys (generally waving at the rest of Demonland). Literally just played the worst role for the first two weeks that there is in the team; come on for 25 minutes to make an impact in a blowout, and… replace our generational AA ruckman and Captain…

    I have had my own critique of selection the last two years - but Jake doesn’t rate a mention in the Table of (dis)Contents…

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    29 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    Another undeserved Melksham drive-by. He ain’t keeping your boy out.

    Not any of your boys (generally waving at the rest of Demonland). Literally just played the worst role for the first two weeks that there is in the team; come on for 25 minutes to make an impact in a blowout, and… replace our generational AA ruckman and Captain…

    I have had my own critique of selection the last two years - but Jake doesn’t rate a mention in the Table of (dis)Contents…

    He didn’t “replace” Gawn. He was subbed in but it’s not like we asked him to play ruck. 

    He played 3.5 quarters in his preferred forward role. He had no influence. It’s a minor spot in the 23 but if there are others at Casey in form it’s hard to justify Melksham getting another game ahead of them. 

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    My weekly teams selection

    Seniors

    B: Lever, May, Bowey

    HB: Hibberd, Petty, Rivers

    C: Hunter, Oliver, Langdon

    HF: Petracca, McDonald, Neal-Bullen

    F: Fritsch, Brown, Spargo

    FOLL: Grundy, Brayshaw, Viney

    IC: McVee, Sparrow, Chandler, van Rooyen

    SUB: Laurie

     

    Reserves

    B: Adams, D.Turner, D.Smith

    HB: K.Turner, Tomlinson, Buntine

    C: Howes, Dunstan, Sheppard

    HF: Moniz-Wakefield, J.Smith, Grey

    F: Steele, Jefferson, Sestan

    FOLL: Bell, Jordon, Munro

    IC: Verrall, Farris-White, Gregory, Baldi, Cross

     

    Not sure why Disco, Verrall and Farris-White were out. Does anyone know?

     

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    5 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

    My weekly teams selection

    Seniors

    B: Lever, May, Bowey

    HB: Hibberd, Petty, Rivers

    C: Hunter, Oliver, Langdon

    HF: Petracca, McDonald, Neal-Bullen

    F: Fritsch, Brown, Spargo

    FOLL: Grundy, Brayshaw, Viney

    IC: McVee, Sparrow, Chandler, van Rooyen

    SUB: Laurie

     

    Reserves

    B: Adams, D.Turner, D.Smith

    HB: K.Turner, Tomlinson, Buntine

    C: Howes, Dunstan, Sheppard

    HF: Moniz-Wakefield, J.Smith, Grey

    F: Steele, Jefferson, Sestan

    FOLL: Bell, Jordon, Munro

    IC: Verrall, Farris-White, Gregory, Baldi, Cross

     

    Not sure why Disco, Verrall and Farris-White were out. Does anyone know?

     

    I realise Harmes and Melksham aren’t popular right now, but surely you can squeeze them into the Casey team W’DEE.

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    7 hours ago, rpfc said:

    Another undeserved Melksham drive-by. He ain’t keeping your boy out.

    Not any of your boys (generally waving at the rest of Demonland). Literally just played the worst role for the first two weeks that there is in the team; come on for 25 minutes to make an impact in a blowout, and… replace our generational AA ruckman and Captain…

    I have had my own critique of selection the last two years - but Jake doesn’t rate a mention in the Table of (dis)Contents…

    If you go back to my post last week before the round 1 game you'll find that I mentioned that Melksham is a smart option for the sub purely because he has the ability to kick quick goals.

    He came on 5 minutes into the first quarter and had absolutely zero impact on the game. Not sure why you're bringing the whole "he replaced Max" , because he didn't? Grundy replaced Max. Its not like he came in to replace the actual position. That's not the way the sub should be judged on.

    After watching Casey yesterday it's reassured to me that it's time we start focusing on the likes of Laurie, JVR, Jordon and even AMW (who was pretty impressive) as options moving forward.

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    Melks is great to bring on in the second half when he's fresh and the opposition are starting to tire. He doesn't have the legs for a full game anymore as we saw on Friday night.

    He very classy though. Took his goal against the doggies from outside the 50 brilliantly. I don't think we have anyone else on our list that would have nailed that kick.

     

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    What we’re seeing at present is the advent of the elite young player coming in and playing well from the get go - Nick Daicos, Harry Sheezel, Will Ashcroft, Cam McKenzie and Mattaes Phillipou. They’re all medium sized midfield types (although not necessarily playing there yet at this level). 

    Jacob van Rooyen is a key position player with a season of VFL behind him and before that, a few WAFL games. He has to be rewarded with an AFL debut very soon and if it’s true that Schache is out with concussion, next week against Sydney is the time to make it happen.

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    They should just pull the trigger on JVR. 

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    It was obvious that we will need someone to support Grundy.  Tmcd is not a relief ruckman any more. He’s physically not in great shape (imv) and was pushed aside too easily by the Lions both in the ruck and as a key forward.  Thought it might be Schache for a few weeks but given he’s out for next week, fully support the JVR call up.  

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    8 hours ago, rpfc said:

    Another undeserved Melksham drive-by. He ain’t keeping your boy out.

    Not any of your boys (generally waving at the rest of Demonland). Literally just played the worst role for the first two weeks that there is in the team; come on for 25 minutes to make an impact in a blowout, and… replace our generational AA ruckman and Captain…

    I have had my own critique of selection the last two years - but Jake doesn’t rate a mention in the Table of (dis)Contents…

    I agree RPFC selecting underdone players on reputation alone is not good form

    We must reward VFL players on form   Hibbo to come back!

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    12 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Schache is out due to concussion. Before he was injured he was a definite In for next week. Now it’s down to Smith or JVR. This is according to JVR who told one of our DA members after the match today. 

    I love the look of JVR. But I want him bought in in the right way also. I guess the question has to be,  is giving JVR 2nd ruck duties just too much on debut? I watched him rucking for casey and can’t see that’s anywhere near his 1 wood. Id love to see him debut as a forward and perhaps take the throw ins in the fwd line.. but if he’s in the centre square that feels like a recipe for a mauling. you have no doubt seen more of him and know a bit about his character …what’s your opinion WCW? 

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    3 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

    I love the look of JVR. But I want him bought in in the right way also. I guess the question has to be,  is giving JVR 2nd ruck duties just too much on debut? I watched him rucking for casey and can’t see that’s anywhere near his 1 wood. Id love to see him debut as a forward and perhaps take the throw ins in the fwd line.. but if he’s in the centre square that feels like a recipe for a mauling. you have no doubt seen more of him and know a bit about his character …what’s your opinion WCW? 

    They still may bring in JVR for Gawn and keep McDonald as the 2nd ruckman.

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    Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

    They still may bring in JVR for Gawn and keep McDonald as the 2nd ruckman.

    yes, true. It’s probably how it will go. Our ruck strength is suddenly a weakness. Neither Grundy or Tmac seem currently fit enough for the role. Trac and clarry etc gonna have to start reading opposition ruckman for the next 4-6. 

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    JVR won’t do much rucking. Grundy will ruck 80% of the game with TMac helping him (if his foot holds out). JVR might take the forward ruck contests here and there and maybe one or two centre contests. But he won’t ruck. 
    He will play forward to allow Tmac to help in the ruck (which is a terrible idea with his foot, but Schache being concussed doesn’t leave us with any other option). 

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    Interesting how some Melbourne players get targeted for poor form more than others.  In my opinion pretty much most players had a shocker the other night.

    Have no idea who the ins and outs will be this coming week.  I just want a ‘champion team’ (as opposed to ‘individual champions’) with the right mindset turning up this time round and play a fast attacking style of footy.

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    18 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

    Cameron took one mark and kicked 2 goals, one a mid air volley. Being the amount and quality of ball that went in the Lions forwardline I would possibly argue McVee won the match up or halved it. 

    No defender would have stopped the Cameron lead out mark and goal.

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    May to replace Tomlinson but Petty should be on notice for his poor start to the year.

    JVR to replace Gawn.

    Jordon to replace Harmes 

    Hibberd to replace McVee if they want some seniority back in the side.

    Laurie or Dunstan to replace Melksham as sub.

    Next week and the Collingwood game are benchmark games IMO to see if we’re able to compete with the elite of the comp. I think we’ll learn a bit about our side next week, even with Gawn out.

     

     

     

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    2 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

    I love the look of JVR. But I want him bought in in the right way also. I guess the question has to be,  is giving JVR 2nd ruck duties just too much on debut? 

    That's my concern also.  You're giving a young player his first game and asking him to play in a position he's barely played in

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    18 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    I would very much consider Hibberd to take on Papley. 

    He has to come in. 

    36 touches in the VFL.

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