If our structure relies on one guy then we need a better structure.

MFC when Jack Viney is out since round 1 2020:

11 wins - 3 losses.

 Obviously a coincidence, right…

Scrolled through the demons Facebook group and wanted to smash my phone. So many morons. 

Disappointing result but was always going to be a tough match without May, Salem and Gawn for the majority. Lions are contenders and they're a tough assignment at the Gabba. Nice to see the margin trimmed back too. 

 

24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't fear Brisbane one bit.

Give us Kozzie, May, Salem and Gawn back in and we beat them comprehensively. 

We have lost our last 2 to these frontrunners though Dazzle!!?

Don't get carried away with the 11 point loss, I have said in another post we would not get within 6 goals of the pies, I was wrong we won't get within 10 goals if we play like that, we have an inability to chip around the ground till something opens up, we just kick it long down the line again, forwards standing behind their opponents, you cannot get a free standing behind, damm frustrating .

I still cannot understand how coaches can see there midfield was killing us but kept the same setup, what ever happened to to stop the bleeding first reset then go again

No Gawn, no Pickett, no May, no Salem, Petty injured in the second half, Viney not fully fit, Fritsch not fully fit, TMac doesn't look fully fit, and I'm not convinced Grundy's aerobic capacity is sufficient to be covering as much ground as he now has to as the number 1 ruck.

Injuries and fitness derailed us last year and they're having a say already this year.

i am not so sure it was who was playing but how we were playing that counted in the end. We gave the ball up at the centre clearances far too easily. but we could have survived that. Lever was fantastic in the backline but our long kicks onto the wing of forward line were constantly either directly to the lions players or to our players who were out marked. we did not bring the ball to ground too often where our smalls could pick up the crumbs. we allowed the lions to chip kick the ball around and around always finding free players as one of our players runs to cover the player with the ball another free player opens up. We get creamed by running sides that chip it around, because our players are trying to stand away from opponents too often. some of our best play was running the ball into the forward line rather than kicking long to contests kicking long to the forward line may be great when gawn is there, but when it is not and the opposition has a lot of talls maybe, just maybe we should review our game plan.

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't fear Brisbane one bit.

Give us Kozzie, May, Salem and Gawn back in and we beat them comprehensively. 

And I'm sure the feeling's mutual. All 4 played in the final that we lost badly. 

I can't stand arrogant supporters especially after we were putrid for most of the game. 

I have no doubt if you told me May would be a late out and Max would go down in the opening minutes, then I would have known for sure we’d struggle to beat Brisbane on their own moist dung heap. But it was still a really poor performance, probably our worst effort since the Cairns debacles in 2020. 
 

So many clumsy frees against by the usual suspects.

Petty has been poor this year and could make way for May. Just saying. His hobbling can’t fool me! Love the guy by the way. 

On a positive note it’s clear as [censored] day Lachie Hunter makes us better and it’s good to see footy’s most likeable man Big Bad Bustling Benny Brown turning the clock back to 2018.

Take the fake margin and move on. We will be right. 

 

On a positive note.

Benny Brown is equal leader of the Coleman Medal.

Was some filth in the first. Mainly clearance related. How the midfield fell apart like it did was bizarre.

Hated Petty's game.

Hated Harmes' game.

Langdon is not the same player as 2021.

Grundy tried hard but incredibly ineffective especially in the first.

The bombing to a spare Lion was atrocious.

Umpires were rubbish.

Lever was great, again!

Hunter had a crack.

Spargo decent.

BBB has 8 goals in 2 games.

 

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

MFC when Jack Viney is out since round 1 2020:

11 wins - 3 losses.

 Obviously a coincidence, right…

MFC when Viney plays since Round 1 2020:

35-1-18

Is there really a trend here?

Just now, layzie said:

If our structure relies on one guy then we need a better structure.

Gawn isn’t just one guy. He is a contested marking machine and a 6 time AA ruckman and our captain. 

We planned all summer for him to play forward and team up with Grundy. He is our down the line get out kick. 
 

You don’t just “ohh well” a season ending injury to him and think we can just revert to a different game plan. It’s going to take weeks and weeks for us to adjust and it’s very very possible that if he’s out for the season, so are we. He brings so much to the table it’s hard to see how we fill the giant hole he’s going to leave behind. 

I was at the game and I'm not sure they showed it on TV but... they flashed up a picture of Gawn looking in pain and alone, in the dark of the change rooms, multiple times.  Psychological warfare... 

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12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Grand final and finals I assume would be replayed. 

It’s the word assume that the AFL should be concerned about.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Brayshaw, Viney and Langdon were extremely poor tonight.

Lost count the amount of times Viney and Brayshaw just completely coughed it up so easily.

 

The long bombs tonight from the first two was cringe worthy.  A lot of our players were just bombing it to no one, the slick ball movement was left on the plane. Was Melbourne 2019 tonight with a star studded team.

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

MFC when Viney plays since Round 1 2020:

35-1-18

Is there really a trend here?

Those stats heavily skewed by playing almost every game in 2020 when we weren’t great and mostly missing a stretch in 21 when we were excellent no matter who played 

6 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

Oliver ranked best on ground …

Yeah and given his dreadful ( by normal standards) 1st half Im not sure what a 37 possesion 15 clearance an 9 tackles game means. I wonder how others Demonland posters, Coaches votes and Umpires will adjudge his game tonight in light of these stats !🤔

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

MFC when Jack Viney is out since round 1 2020:

11 wins - 3 losses.

 Obviously a coincidence, right…

Wait a second though. How’s that compare to our win loss ratio in its entirety over the same period? 

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Gawn isn’t just one guy. He is a contested marking machine and a 6 time AA ruckman and our captain. 

We planned all summer for him to play forward and team up with Grundy. He is our down the line get out kick. 
 

You don’t just “ohh well” a season ending injury to him and think we can just revert to a different game plan. It’s going to take weeks and weeks for us to adjust and it’s very very possible that if he’s out for the season, so are we. He brings so much to the table it’s hard to see how we fill the giant hole he’s going to leave behind. 

I get that Jaded but it's bordering on insanity to plan a whole structure around one guy, especially since we also just brought in a million dollar ruckman.

I know some players are impossible to replace. It hurts and it hurts bad but I'm not shutting this down after Rd 2, I can't, there's too much football season to go.

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Can someone explain why we've only taken FOUR contested marks so far this year? 

I know things were a bit slippery up north but Brisbane managed to take eight to our measly two.

Just now, titan_uranus said:

No Gawn, no Pickett, no May, no Salem, Petty injured in the second half, Viney not fully fit, Fritsch not fully fit, TMac doesn't look fully fit, and I'm not convinced Grundy's aerobic capacity is sufficient to be covering as much ground as he now has to as the number 1 ruck.

Injuries and fitness derailed us last year and they're having a say already this year.

Grundy was great …ranked 5th highest player on the ground & nearly every tap in the last 12 mins went to our players. He’s missed nearly a year of football ..is playing with a new team & a new game plan & you expect perfection. He wasn’t the problem. Losing Max is literally losing 5 players .. next week we know he won’t play & Will structure accordingly. Put Gawn & then no May..Kozzie..Salem an underdone & probably very upset Viney ..it was a hard ask. They fought it out & if you’re a premiership aspirant like the Lions ..,you don’t take your foot of the pedal at any stage 

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't fear Brisbane one bit.

Give us Kozzie, May, Salem and Gawn back in and we beat them comprehensively. 

Yeah funny how you wouldn’t know that we were missing 3-4 quality players, 3 potential AAs. 

I want to call out BBB. 8 goals in 2 games. Great game. 

Players will get a huge reality check, train hard this week and go into next week with an extra bit of umph.

Defensive efforts were wayyy off tonight. 

Who do we think could come in from Casey?

I can only think of JVR, Dunstan, Disco and Pig.

After tonight we may see a couple of them in the list against the Swans.

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah and given his dreadful ( by normal standards) 1st half Im not sure what a 37 possesion 15 clearance an 9 tackles game means. I wonder how others Demonland posters, Coaches votes and Umpires will adjudge his game tonight in light of these stats !🤔

What about disposal efficiency?