Jump to content

Featured Replies

Posted

Just breaking in The Age.

Ginnivan has admitted drug use at a recent  Collingwood training camp. Apparently caught on film by a member of the public in quite sordid circumstances. 

Outed for 4 weeks but I wonder where this might lead?

Edited by Bitter but optimistic

 
 
Just now, AzzKikA said:

Lol and a little tap on the wrist for it.

Yep, the filth making sure it’s as lenient as possible under the guise of the AFL.

Happened back in January, so if the member of the public hadn’t raised the issue it simply would’ve been swept under the carpet nothing to see here.

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Just breaking in The Age.

Ginnivan has admitted drug use at a recent  Collingwood training camp. Apparently caught on film by a member of the public in quite sordid circumstances. 

Outed for 4 weeks but I wonder where this might lead?

Sounds like an odd thing to train for 


For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

Now we know why they made the prelim last year. That slimy little drop the knee merchant should have got a year. I hate the filth.

  • Author
5 minutes ago, hemingway said:

For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

Your point about "support and assistance" is well made Ernie.

However, don't forget that this "young kid" is also a hero and role model for possibly thousands of younger   kids. 

He deserves his whack.

 

Kind of feel sorry for him, he has mistakenly copped a lot from the media and some opposition fans with the way he plays which is a common theme in society as well. 

Yes he needs a suspension but drugs are only covering up his deeper personal problems.

5 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Kind of feel sorry for him, he has mistakenly copped a lot from the media and some opposition fans with the way he plays which is a common theme in society as well. 

Yes he needs a suspension but drugs are only covering up his deeper personal problems.

Feel sorry for him??? SORRY I Dont and here's the Rationale... Plenty do it tough and guts it out without... ah assistance. HE has got the world at his feet and dabbled!! Sorry but NO EXCUSE ! COP IT !!


28 minutes ago, hemingway said:

For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

Lol yeah let's mother him some more the poor little darling. Speaking from experience this method is not only more harmful but for someone that clearly is weak and easily lured into the drug scene, downright wrong. Talking about our issues is NOT always the solution.

10 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

drugs are only covering up his deeper personal problems.

Taking drugs doesn't necessarily mean you have personal problems just as drinking alcohol doesn't necessarily indicate an underlying issue.  People do it because they enjoy it and, as adults, should be free to choose what they consume.  

It's time we legalised the lot and stop the hypocrisy and double standards.  The "war on drugs" has been a costly and dismal failure and an absolute WOFTAM.

Disclaimer:  I neither drink nor take drugs.

Collingwood's  season getting off to a bad start before the ball is even bounced. They wont suspend him from AFL games in March surely. Not that mob.

Watching Eddie’s son Xander read the story on the news was a treat to watch…


Well we shouldn't have a go at druggies but it's Collingwood dig the boots in. Collingwood are a team full of junkies!

59 minutes ago, hemingway said:

For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

What about Collingwood & the media in general take a good hard look at themselves. He is basically a 20yr old smart [censored] with not a particularly high IQ & if Collingwood had a better  culture he would have been told to “pull his head in “ and concentrate on his footy . But no ..,apparently he is a breath of fresh air & footy needs some personalities. You act affronted because inevitably he has gone down the slippery slope that in this AFL obsessed climate can oh so quickly happen. So save your platitudes for the young people who don’t have the network & education around them that you get if you’re an AFL player. Don’t excuse him because “everyone else is doing it”. For mine he is in danger of going down the same path as many other talented young players who have excuses made for  them quite simply because they play AFL . 

 

He's not the first young lad to dabble in drugs and won't be the last.  If he has the right people around him, they'll knock some sense into him.

and while I hope the young man learns and moves on, I would be delighted if this derails Collingwood's season preparation.

 

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Well we shouldn't have a go at druggies but it's Collingwood dig the boots in. Collingwood are a team full of junkies!

every team has participants of the narcotic persuasion………..then again….there’s never an inopportune time to stick the boots into the filth

Edited by Demon Disciple

So the peroxided attention seeking, knee dropping, forward diving, free kick seeking piece of excrement has managed to make headlines again. Eff me!

Oh well, just one more reason to up the ante in ‘loving to hate’  him and Collingwood supporters that much more when we play them this year. 

Only downside is that I am certain this will give their feral supporters one more reason to idolise him that much more.  Life sucks at times.

Hope we smash ‘em this time round.


On the one hand who cares?

On the other hand it's Collingwood and Ginnivan so throw the book at them.

All those acting sanctimonious should remember what Guru Bob would say about those who live in glass houses; everyone can see what you're doing so lay low!

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Feel sorry for him??? SORRY I Dont and here's the Rationale... Plenty do it tough and guts it out without... ah assistance. HE has got the world at his feet and dabbled!! Sorry but NO EXCUSE ! COP IT !!

Would you be yelling the same thing if he was a young Melbourne player with known mental health problems? Careful what you wish for Picket, professional footballers are fallible too

I hate Collingwood as much as anyone, however what is arguably minor drug use is better dealt with through counsel and support rather than public shame by media and anonymous internet heroes like us. The carrot is often better than the stick

 

Edited by Stiff Arm

 
3 hours ago, hemingway said:

For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

Support and assistance like all the educational programs he would have already taken part in, plus all of the assistance programs available to players and their families? 
He like all the others are only sorry they got caught.  
Don’t want the publicity, don’t play AFL, simple. 

 

3 hours ago, hemingway said:

For Christ sake, this is a young kid that needs support and assistance. Not punishment. So much hypocrisy. Half  the world is addicted to alcohol and drugs. Professionals, executives, celebrities snorting coke. This kid does not need to be publicly shamed. The moralising by others makes me sick. Go out and experience the real world. 

What a load of [censored]. 
 

If the real world is about acceptance of drug use for elite sportspersons then your own morals are the ones misguided rather than the ones you seek to shame. 
 

Maybe young Jack would consider virtue for something more meaningful?

Young punk can eat [censored]. 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Like
    • 140 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 39 replies
  • POSTGAME: St. Kilda

    After kicking the first goal of the match the Demons were always playing catch up against the Saints in Alice Spring and could never make the most of their inside 50 entries to wrestle back the lead.

      • Like
    • 318 replies
  • VOTES: St. Kilda

    Max Gawn still has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award as Christian Petracca, Jake Bowey, Clayton Oliver & Kozzy Pickett round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1

      • Like
    • 31 replies
  • GAMEDAY: St. Kilda

    It's Game Day and the Demons have traveled to Alice Springs to take on the Saints and they have a massive opportunity to build on the momentum of two big wins in a row and keep their finals hopes well and truly alive.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 907 replies