Just saw Brodie Gundy's comments.

Here is the link to it: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-brodie-grundy-trade-melbourne-to-sydney-max-gawn-collingwood-contract-salary-leaves-club-after-a-year/news-story/37ba08c1b2ba2db26acb2936921b71fa

 

A class act from Brodie Grundy. It's a shame things didn't work out at the Demons. It had so much potential during the Pre-Season. But it just wasn't to be.

I wish him all the best at the Swans (except against us).

1 hour ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Just saw Brodie Gundy's comments.

Here is the link to it: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-brodie-grundy-trade-melbourne-to-sydney-max-gawn-collingwood-contract-salary-leaves-club-after-a-year/news-story/37ba08c1b2ba2db26acb2936921b71fa

 

A class act from Brodie Grundy. It's a shame things didn't work out at the Demons. It had so much potential during the Pre-Season. But it just wasn't to be.

I wish him all the best at the Swans (except against us).

Honest, thoughtful, respectful, grateful and intelligent is Brody. I’m completely SHOCKED the sensationalist, mindless, muck-raking media even considered publishing those thoughts. 

13 minutes ago, Webber said:

Honest, thoughtful, respectful, grateful and intelligent is Brody. I’m completely SHOCKED the sensationalist, mindless, muck-raking media even considered publishing those thoughts. 

even the media occasionally make mistakes, webber 😮

On 03/11/2023 at 13:39, Demonsterative said:

Very smart, charismatic and articulate man is Grundy. I like him. Is his version honest? Some on hear are listening and interpreting this story to suit their own agenda. 
 

Recollections may vary to quote a great women. 

Same woman also said ' annus horribilis.'

Would have been a dees supporter.

Heard the interview. He speaks really well & was respectful with his responses when asked about Melbourne.

It's not his fault that the club couldn't make it work. They sold him a plan and couldn't execute it.

Good luck to him at Sydney. I have no issue with him.

I did have a laugh when he said he found a place in North Bondi about 10 minutes to training & a bit different than driving out to Casey 

Really nice bloke: my family met him at the club family day earlier this year and took an instant like to him.

And just on a side note - does Brodie have a spot on our 2024 calendar?😀!

Edited November 5, 20231 yr by Dee Dee

A million bucks a year would certainly bring out the best of my silver tongue....

A bookend to this affair

 

On 05/11/2023 at 15:22, Dee Dee said:

Really nice bloke: my family met him at the club family day earlier this year and took an instant like to him.

And just on a side note - does Brodie have a spot on our 2024 calendar?😀!

Yeah I saw the calender out and Brodie is there

I hope Melbourne supporters don't boo him

What a wasted opportunity for Melbourne, we had a chance to double down on our strength in the ruck and continue the two-ruck strategy that worked so well previously.

It might not have worked as well as we hoped, but it was still a hell of a lot better than the alternative (Gawn with broken toe and Schache spending all game as an unused sub). 

Heaven forbid Gawn gets injured again next year.

2 hours ago, Super Sub Schache said:

What a wasted opportunity for Melbourne, we had a chance to double down on our strength in the ruck and continue the two-ruck strategy that worked so well previously.

It might not have worked as well as we hoped, but it was still a hell of a lot better than the alternative (Gawn with broken toe and Schache spending all game as an unused sub). 

Heaven forbid Gawn gets injured again next year.

I get the romanticism of Gawndy and I was one who was all for this trade. I watched Grundy closely and saw a ruckman without any other skills. Can’t mark, can’t kick goals, won’t run defensively which is the Melbourne way. 
 

Grundy is his own worst enemy who will tap the ball at his feet and work offensively as a second midfielder. He has great looking moments but his substance is not that great for a player getting the big dollars. The club can’t  have an expensive back up to Gawn.
 

The other element to this failed experiment was Gawn is not a KPF. He can play a roaming ruck moving forward having impact in games, but won’t do this consistently. 
 

 

20 hours ago, Super Sub Schache said:

What a wasted opportunity for Melbourne, we had a chance to double down on our strength in the ruck and continue the two-ruck strategy that worked so well previously.

It might not have worked as well as we hoped, but it was still a hell of a lot better than the alternative (Gawn with broken toe and Schache spending all game as an unused sub). 

Heaven forbid Gawn gets injured again next year.

To be fair to the club, I think it was as much Grundy not being able to play as a forward as much as it was Melbourne's failure to utilise him.

No point having 2x rucks that only play one position.

13 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

To be fair to the club, I think it was as much Grundy not being able to play as a forward as much as it was Melbourne's failure to utilise him.

No point having 2x rucks that only play one position.

i'll disagree a bit here - i think it was as much about gawn not being able to be a #1 forward target

grundy was only ever a ruckman, not a forward target, at the end of the day

i do wonder how it would've worked if the skipper hadn't been injured early on vs the bears in rd 2 - the grawndy combo looked okay in pre-season and r1, and then they never really got a decent crack at it outside of that

gawn is the game's generational ruckman; to have him deployed forward for over half the game is to waste a unique playing talent

12 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

To be fair to the club, I think it was as much Grundy not being able to play as a forward as much as it was Melbourne's failure to utilise him.

No point having 2x rucks that only play one position.

More so 2 expensive ruckman vying for the one position.  I suppose the club might have thought that one of Gawn or Grundy could have made a fist of it up forward but alas, that didn't happen 

But we always needed to replace Jackson with another ruckman and as a means to an end, we've now added Fullarton to replace Grundy

In effect, Grundy helped us achieve a top 4 position by ably filling in for Gawn when he was injured (as well as rucking well with Gawn in the team)

It was worth a punt as we couldn't just go into the 2023 season with Schache as the only back up to Gawn

18 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

i'll disagree a bit here - i think it was as much about gawn not being able to be a #1 forward target

grundy was only ever a ruckman, not a forward target, at the end of the day

i do wonder how it would've worked if the skipper hadn't been injured early on vs the bears in rd 2 - the grawndy combo looked okay in pre-season and r1, and then they never really got a decent crack at it outside of that

gawn is the game's generational ruckman; to have him deployed forward for over half the game is to waste a unique playing talent

I do agree with your points and I've said the whole time I'd hoped they'd give it a go for one more year.

But as the season went on something happened to splinter the relationship. (There obviously a lot of speculation about what it was but I have no idea, but it was bloody obvious to all watching).

But back to my point was it round 5 vs Essendon? Grundy got towelled up, I'd argue he wasn't worth the cash.

 

Edit. I also like that the real reasons haven't come out publically, it shows we were both respectful in parting ways. Otherwise it have been the brick McLean situation all over again.

Edited December 3, 20231 yr by Cheap Seats

On 01/12/2023 at 20:04, dees189227 said:

Yeah I saw the calender out and Brodie is there

Hope he's Mr June or Mr July when I'm OS.

Spoke to a friend this morning who is a Swans supporter.Paul is well connected to the Swans management and last week met a recruiter who told him the Swans are very happy with Brodie.

That's......nice.

6 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Spoke to a friend this morning who is a Swans supporter.Paul is well connected to the Swans management and last week met a recruiter who told him the Swans are very happy with Brodie.

Everyone's happy with Brodie. The question is, is Brodie happy with the Swans?

6 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Spoke to a friend this morning who is a Swans supporter.Paul is well connected to the Swans management and last week met a recruiter who told him the Swans are very happy with Brodie.

Groundbreaking info there. So were we this time last year. He quickly showed he was fairly one dimensional and several running attempts at goal that missed, where he burnt his teammates raised questions about his worth. He will probably be a good player for Sydney, but he was surplus to our needs and wasn’t prepared to adjust his game. Apparently refused to play on finals. A similar pattern had emerged at Collingwood 

I bet they're happy. We have helped Sydney become a far more improved side in exchange for a couple of mediocre draft picks (unless Sydney flop this year and the second round pick becomes interesting).

I get that we had no leg to stand on in terms of bargaining power, but at the same time, we were under absolutely no obligation to trade him.

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I bet they're happy. We have helped Sydney become a far more improved side in exchange for a couple of mediocre draft picks (unless Sydney flop this year and the second round pick becomes interesting).

I get that we had no leg to stand on in terms of bargaining power, but at the same time, we were under absolutely no obligation to trade him.

Always risky improving another contender but also need to judge how we go with list management and salary spending (Given we've cleared space moving him on etc).

29 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Spoke to a friend this morning who is a Swans supporter.Paul is well connected to the Swans management and last week met a recruiter who told him the Swans are very happy with Brodie.

So he's not Brodie Grumpy!

Brodie will play well for 4 or five rounds. The Media will hail his recruitment, and the Sydney brains trust, as a master stroke while they ridicule us for getting it wrong. Then things will turn sour as Brodie's weaknesses are exposed (just like they were for us). By the end of the season fans in general will be questioning how he is still getting a game.