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  On 17/09/2022 at 09:00, mo64 said:

Correct. Blues had Cerra well before season's end. We made a late play but never a chance.

That’s not the issue, it was a discussion about what our salary cap is and realistically no fan knows what the true figures are.

If we made a late play for Cerra, then unless we are absolute liars or fools, we had room to pay him what we were offering. That was my point.

 

 
  On 17/09/2022 at 09:45, Redleg said:

That’s not the issue, it was a discussion about what our salary cap is and realistically no fan knows what the true figures are.

If we made a late play for Cerra, then unless we are absolute liars or fools, we had room to pay him what we were offering. That was my point.

 

Cerra didn’t get big money from Carlton according to reports. And we might’ve had to trade out a player to get draft picks to up our offer. Not convinced Cerra alone means we have a 600k or more lying around unless players go out.

But at the same time I agree with your overall assertion that we can’t be sure we don’t have cash. Especially if the cap rises. Who can actually know?

We also went extra years over dollars to sign Oliver and Tracc long term. Brayshaw too. Guys like Langdon and May should’ve been front loaded before we had a full cap. Gawn, Lever, Salem, Viney have all done extensions to spread them over multiple years. 

And if we work on a balanced list where no one position group gets overloaded with money then even worse case we really should be budgeting for key forwards from 2025. We might even be able to dip in to that key forward budget ahead of time. 

 

  On 17/09/2022 at 08:13, Redleg said:

We are talking about salary cap room and we were right into him. We therefore had room.

Your assertion we don’t have room for an A grade player is another wild guess.

You haven’t got a clue whether we have or not, so stop acting like you really know our salary cap details.

Unless you are Tim Lamb or work with him, you have no better idea than the rest of us.

Now you have changed the subject. The basis of your argument was that we didn't have the capital (draft picks) to appease Fremantle to agree to a trade with Cerra, and that you somehow know that he favoured to come to Melbourne instead of Carlton. Yet he never nominated Melbourne, even though as you say we had the money to offer him. Let's face it, Carlton had to pay overs to get Cerra and our offer was a good $200k less, hence why he nominated Carlton. 

Let's just face it, you have NFI about how the salary cap works. I myself work with numbers and know a thing or two about these things alright. 


  On 17/09/2022 at 11:26, Caligula's cohort said:

Now you have changed the subject. The basis of your argument was that we didn't have the capital (draft picks) to appease Fremantle to agree to a trade with Cerra, and that you somehow know that he favoured to come to Melbourne instead of Carlton. Yet he never nominated Melbourne, even though as you say we had the money to offer him. Let's face it, Carlton had to pay overs to get Cerra and our offer was a good $200k less, hence why he nominated Carlton. 

Let's just face it, you have NFI about how the salary cap works. I myself work with numbers and know a thing or two about these things alright. 

I work with numbers too

2 x big mac

1x large chips

1x large coke

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  On 17/09/2022 at 11:28, adonski said:

I work with numbers too

2x big mac

1x large chips

1x large coke

Good for you young lad. Always aim high. Employee of the month is around the corner. 

 
  On 17/09/2022 at 11:33, The heart beats true said:

I work with numbers (but I also drive Uber)

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Uber drivers are a necessity in this day and age. Are you trying to criticise or belittle hard working Australians? that seems pretty low IMO. 


  On 17/09/2022 at 05:42, adonski said:

Bowes & Sharp are two that come to mind that weren't getting regular opportunities 

Bowes would add some class

Sharp a chance to head back to WA apparently though

 

bowes will be a required player with powell/budarick/weller all doing knees. and markov still unsigned and atkins out of favour. they rate him highly

Anyone got some dinner to trade? Collingwood could use some and have surplus duck to trade for it.

  On 17/09/2022 at 11:28, adonski said:

I work with numbers too

2 x big mac

1x large chips

1x large coke

Yes, but the question is: Is that worth a whole chicken with potato and gravy?

I heard the current club is willing to pay for the stuffing.

Huge if true.

  On 17/09/2022 at 13:11, Little Goffy said:

Yes, but the question is: Is that worth a whole chicken with potato and gravy?

I heard the current club is willing to pay for the stuffing.

Huge if true.

As long as it's moist. Can't stand dry meat. 


  On 17/09/2022 at 06:36, Redleg said:

Cerra would be a Demon if we had pick 5 last year, or he had waited a year. We were right into him, so clearly could afford him.

Freo demanded and received pick 2 for Lachie Weller. They demanded and received pick 6 for Cerra. Two ‘pretty good’ but relatively unremarkable players (in the scheme of top 10 picks)

We have a 21 year old pick 3 KPP who has won a premiership, a rising star award and is a generational talent.

You can only hope Tim Lamb is constantly reminding Bell-end of this every time they pick up the phone.

 

  On 17/09/2022 at 11:26, Caligula's cohort said:

Now you have changed the subject. The basis of your argument was that we didn't have the capital (draft picks) to appease Fremantle to agree to a trade with Cerra, and that you somehow know that he favoured to come to Melbourne instead of Carlton. Yet he never nominated Melbourne, even though as you say we had the money to offer him. Let's face it, Carlton had to pay overs to get Cerra and our offer was a good $200k less, hence why he nominated Carlton. 

Let's just face it, you have NFI about how the salary cap works. I myself work with numbers and know a thing or two about these things alright. 

Man....if we had pick 5 quite simply he would have been a Melbourne player.   No way we court players without being ableto pay them appropriately.  This is always about draft picks.....same as Jackson will be......who cares how much either WC or Freo offer him, just give us the best deal!

Big on numbers, low on common sense, fmd.

Sorry to get personal but ffs stop banging on about last years trade deals when you clearly have no clue either way about it.

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  On 17/09/2022 at 21:04, NeveroddoreveN said:

Man....if we had pick 5 quite simply he would have been a Melbourne player.   No way we court players without being ableto pay them appropriately.  This is always about draft picks.....same as Jackson will be......who cares how much either WC or Freo offer him, just give us the best deal!

Big on numbers, low on common sense, fmd.

Sorry to get personal but ffs stop banging on about last years trade deals when you clearly have no clue either way about it.

Pot calling kettle black.

 

 
  On 17/09/2022 at 22:09, COVID Dan said:

So trades?

I think you'll find you're in the wrong thread for that...


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