4 hours ago, DeeZee said:

In May, Bedford, Weideman, Rivers

out- Turner, Sparrow, Harmes, M.Brown

 

Like the INS but not sure of the OUTS M. Brown (omitted) and Disco ( conc) Chandler ( will never make it and is one sided player has no right foot) 

At the moment Skill errors can be improved but lack of ball can't do Harmsey should survive. Sparrow needs a med sub and Dunstan was too good to ignore at Casey on Sunday, 

11 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Would help if the best decision maker could get a kick.
 

100%. We're much better when Spargo, Trac and an in-form ANB are delivering it forward, but all are down atm. Part of that is form and part of that IMO is us basically bypassing them and bombing it.

4 hours ago, Redlagged said:

Agree Rivers should be in. Should have played today, not that it would have mattered. May in, obviously, unless the AFL decides he should have ten strokes of the rattan and 5 years' solitary in the clink. Sparrow has been mediocre all year - at best. Is he good enough? Omit.

The team looks dour, slow and lacking in imagination. They play like Goodwin's press conferences. They look, frankly, like a 10-14 side.

Yeah, A team that wins ten out of ten would have to be a ranked as a 10 to 14 side. Strange comment. 

Out: M Brown, ANB, Turner

In: Weid, Chandler/Bedford, May

Alternatively keep Turner in and push Petty forward. Love Petty as a defender but there needs to be a shake up of the forward line so throwing him forward could provide something. 

Our problems are deeper than a couple of changes right now so I don't really care who comes in.

Rivers in , releases Salem or Brayshaw to go forward for either Harmes of ANB.

10 hours ago, deespicable me said:

We are missing run. In the 3rd quarter we kept bombing it long, and Cox or Moore intercepted every entry. But no-one was moving.We need Brayshaws attack further up the ground. He is great. Give him the money. I don't think we can win another premiership without him.

The players I would consider are Rivers, Hunt, Baker and Moniz-Wakefield. Keep Hibberd in and free up Hunt to be more attacking. Rivers has done a good stretch in the twos and deserves a recall, he or Brayshaw would be a better option than Harmes on the wing, Baker has built a better tank and a strong body and Moniz-Wakefield could be a classy HFF, something we are missing.

Take Trac out of the centre and put in another ball getter to work with Clarry and Viney. 

Its hard to say Goodwin should stop trusting in players, coz thats been a cornerstone to his success as a coach, but there are too many fringe players gone backwards from last year. ANB, Harmes and Sparrow should be dropped to find a bit of form and fitness.

I'm a bit panicky but gee we look awful. I think we've fallen off a cliff and haven't hit the bottom yet. Might be very hard to turn around.

What is wrong with CP? very poor again lacks power and attack

Should have moved forward to give some spark

9 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I was facepalmed by a few when I suggested this a few weeks back. Glad people are now seeing it. His hand balling is of particular concern. He needs a spell. I’d put Dunstan in ahead of him

100% ...too slow on decision making as well for now at this level.  Playing at VFL pace at the moment.  Time to head back for as long as it takes to reset.

Not expecting massive improvement from Dunstan either but i'd be getting a block of games into him and letting him try to settle well before finals.

9 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I was facepalmed by a few when I suggested this a few weeks back. Glad people are now seeing it. His hand balling is of particular concern. He needs a spell. I’d put Dunstan in ahead of him

Consider it a badge of honour.

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Ah yes, moving our worst decision maker into a position where we're currently making terrible decisions, replacing our best decision maker... That will help!

It's always been a position where I've thought he could make an impact in but he always seems to get the blinkers up forward even when he does kick a few. Just doesn't seem natural

 

Out: Disco, M.Brown, Chandler 

In: May, Weideman, Bedford

The interesting discussion for mine is the move of Brayshaw from HBF. I can't see why we would move him to the wing, given that Langdon and Jordon are playing those positions well (most of the time), so I'm attracted to the idea of putting Brayshaw on-ball in place of Sparrow or Harmes. Sparrow or Harmes could go to the sub position and Brayshaw's spot on the HBF taken up again by Rivers.

So, I would bring in May for Turner, Rivers for Sparrow (or Harmes) and Weideman for M Brown. Chandler as medi-sub would also be omitted.

(I'm not a fan of Chandler at the best of times and I'm definitely not comfortable with a small forward being the sub. And that includes Bedford. Not enough versatility if the medi-sub is a small forward or a tall forward, for that matter)

will Turner miss ,its 10 days till next game

OUT: Goodwin

IN: Clarkson

In: May, Tomlinson, Hunt, Rivers, Dunstan, Weideman (ugh), man on man defending

Out: Turner, Lever, Bowey, Sparrow, Spargo, M.Brown, zone defence

Happy for Petracca to spend time forward to allow Dunstan to play midfield. Hunt also to spend time forward. Brayshaw back on the wing. I'd be tempted to let Weideman do some ruck work early to get him into the game.

29 minutes ago, forever demons said:

will Turner miss ,its 10 days till next game

Mandatory 12 days minimum with concussion - he cannot be selected for our next game.

8 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

OUT: Goodwin

IN: Clarkson

They don't make facepalms big enough for this call.

i honestly didn't realise it was less than 12 games til our next game despite us having the bye

hardly the week off, is it?

our fixture suddenly looks like a tough one coming home!

IN: may, bedford, weideman
OUT: spargo, m brown, turner

feels a bit like shuffling deckchairs at the moment...

Edited June 13, 20223 yr by whatwhat say what

I'm not in favour of moving Gus from the backline. He has been the best thing about it this year. He saved an avalanche yesterday in the 3rd quarter.  Langdon and Jordon are fine on the wings.

In May, Laurie, Rivers, Van Royne or Weid out Turner, Spargo, Mitch Brown,

Spargo is well out of form.

 

 

 

 

I would be tempted to play Tomlinson forward 

45 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

OUT: Goodwin

IN: Clarkson

Seems like Goodwin is not getting the best out of his players. Heard a rumour about him, if true, we should chop him lose.

14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Out: Turner, M Brown
In: May, Hunt

Time to mix up the forward line and midfield mix. 

We don’t have quality talls so there’s no point playing 2 of them. 

We’re slow down back, we’re slow up forward and we lack midfield rotations. 

Hunt for some much needed pace across half back (rather than deep), Harmes permanent CHF, Brayshaw in to the midfield/forward rotations. 

Yeah I agree with your reasoning. We need to get more run all over the park. Weid or M Brown aren’t good enough up front so let’s constantly rotate one of Jacko, Max and Trac through there. 
Brayshaw back to the wing( but not against himself and JJ rotating between wing and going in the middle). 
I’m happy to bring in Rivers and Dunstan to but not sure who goes out. 
Really don’t want to face the Lions without Max but we may need to rest him. He’s pretty banged up at the minute and if he goes out for an extended period our season is done. 
Is Daw fit?

In: run and dare

Out: slow movement across the half back line and down the wings.

 

Apart from that: At least Weid can fill in in the ruck. Especially with Max injured/limited, I would like to see a three-way rotation of Max/Jackson/Weid in the ruck/CHF. I feel sorry for Mitch Brown but he is not AFL standard. BBB seemed to me to be coming back a bit- he almost took a few marks; maybe next week he takes them. But I hate the fact that he plays so far up the ground; we need a stay-at-home forward so there is always a target.

When Bowey and Laurie were our first two picks in the draft a few years back, they said "we've got the two best kicks in the draft".

We've seen some of this from Bowey.  Laurie was likened to Brett Daniels from GWS at the time and his highlights package showed him storming through the centre / half forward and hitting up key forwards lace out.

I don't get to see a lot of VFL but haven't noticed this from him - I see him more around the packs rather than as an outside distributor.  

For those that watch the VFL regularly is this right?  Is he played out of position or does he not have the speed for this level?  Or is his kicking not as good as we thought?  Because the outside distributor seems to be exactly the sort of player we need.