16 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I have seen very little of him.  Regulars, is he another “small crumbing forward” like Kozzie, Spargo, Bedford, Chandler or something very different?  Thanks in anticipation. 
PS is Laurie also in this group?

I think Laurie will be in front of Melksham when a spot opens up next time. I see the Melksham role as his role.

32 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I think Laurie will be in front of Melksham when a spot opens up next time. I see the Melksham role as his role.

Not sure he has the frame or boxing skills just yet!!

56 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

How Bedford doesn't get a game has got me beat? Prefer him than BBB.

I have to agree. On a like for like basis, Bedford is a better small forward than 200cm Coleman medal winning Ben Brown.

Edited June 12, 20222 yr by fr_ap

Was a good display. Showed some similar patterns and structures working well. Players able to familiarise themselves with tactics.

Hunt Rivers Bedford Weiderman, Dunstable all gave glimpses of higher level ability.

Ellison , Bell, Montez, JVR all showed glimpses of potential. JVR will need to muscle up before any sign of promotion , but boy can see great promise

All others playerscontributedand showed why they are unbeaten on top.some really impressive cameos.

 

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

I have seen very little of him.  Regulars, is he another “small crumbing forward” like Kozzie, Spargo, Bedford, Chandler or something very different?  Thanks in anticipation. 
P.S. is Laurie also in this group?

Call me crazy and i'll no doubt cop some heat over this but....

Although he doesn't have the elusiveness & skills on his left side, nor the aerial acrobatics (yet).  Is also more likely to be played as a small forward / occasional mid rather than an attacking HB.

In the three matches i've seen Moniz he reminds me just a tad of something akin to a very very raw Gavin Wanganeen.  While i'm in no way suggesting he will have the sort of career Wanganeen had, this kid might be heading towards something pretty special (in his own right).  Very early days though of course.

Edited June 12, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

1 hour ago, fr_ap said:

I have to agree. On a like for like basis, Bedford is a better small forward than 200cm Coleman medal winning Ben Brown.

Play Jackson and Mitch Brown as the keys and use Bedford off the bench. Brown hasn't had a kick for a month.

5 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Play Jackson and Mitch Brown as the keys and use Bedford off the bench. Brown hasn't had a kick for a month.

That is a different structure than we have had for all of our success. And Bedford would just be a few poor games from being called ‘pathetic’ by you so what does it matter really?

EARLY FREEZE by KC from Casey

If the publicity ahead of Queens Birthday Monday was all about the Big Freeze and the game to follow the pre-game entertainment then the hardy group that braved the country’s cold snap to travel out to the windy plains beyond Cranbourne were given an early taste of what was to come in the Casey's big 52-point win over Collingwood VFL.

The day started well with the Demons comprehensively beating the VFLW Magpies in the curtain-raiser elimination final and then their male counterparts donned the traditional Springvale heritage kit to dominate their rivals in the VFL match.

With Melbourne holding back three players for emergency duties (Baker, Chandler and Tomlinson), Casey was left with 11 AFL-listed players but the VFL boys blended perfectly with them in what was a dominant display in the wild, woolly and freezing conditions.

They were out of the blocks quickly in a 6 goal to nil opening term with the young and the old of Casey featuring. Youngster Roan Steele from Frankston YCW started things off with a left foot snap followed by Jimmy Munro’s long 50 metre goal. A couple of Casey talls in Jack Bell and Josh Smith chipped in among a great soccer goal from dangerous young Demon Jacob Van Rooyen and nippy forward Andy Moniz-Wakefield. A feature of the  first quarter was Casey's deadly accuracy in front of goals.

When the teams changed ends, Collingwood rallied briefly with the wind and were competitive for a while but the avalanche continued with more individual goals from Taj Woewodin, late inclusion Riley Baldi who was having a break out game, Luke Dunstan who was having a blinder and Sam Weideman who had played strongly for limited results on the scoreboard.

By half time, when the rain had well and truly arrived to douse out any chance of a Magpie revival, the game was all but over. Coach Mark Corrigan would have been pleased with the fact that only one of his team’s 11 goals had come from a multiple goalkicker - Van Rooyen.

The rest of the game turned into a dreary slog in the wet and when conditions moderated there was no pot of gold under the Casey rainbow for the visitors. The second half was an even arm wrestle but the Demons could be well satisfied going into the bye round undefeated and well on top.

Dunstan rounded off a four quarter performance with 38 possessions, seven clearances, six tackles with solid contributions from Trent Rivers, Bailey Laurie, Taj Woewodin and Andy Moniz-Wakefield and Jayden Hunt. Toby Bedford also impressed with his strong tackling. Van Rooyen showed his versatility after kicking his two first half goals by backing up in the ruck when Josh Smith injured his meniscus.

Casey’s skipper Mitch White added two goals in the gloom of the third quarter while Jimmy Munro was the perfect foil for Dunstan with 28 disposals. Jack Bell had a huge game in the ruck with 29 hit outs and 14 possessions and, as mentioned earlier Baldi produced an excellent all round game, the best of his brief VFL career. Another excellent performance came from Corey Ellison who held sway in the key defensive position in the absence of Tomlinson and Daniel Turner.

In the end, it was another big, albeit early freeze for a visiting team at Casey Fields.

CASEY DEMONS 6.2.38 11.3.69 13.8.86 14.10.94

COLLINGWOOD VFL 0.2.2 2.5.17 4.6.30 6.6.42

Goals

Casey Demons Van Rooyen White 2 Baldi Bell Dunstan Laurie Moniz-Wakefield Munro Josh Smith Steele Weideman Woewodin

Collingwood VFL Wetering 2 Fowler Hustwaite Roberts Voulanis

Best

Casey Demons Dunstan Baldi Bell Munro Rivers Woewodin White

Collingwood VFL Brown Carmichael Poulter Bianco Tardrew Hustwaite

Statistics  

Riley Baldi 1 goal 6 kicks 15 handballs 21 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 1 hit outs 79 dream team points
Toby Bedford 1 behind 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 8 tackles 70 dream team points
Jack Bell 1 goals 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 29 hit outs 95 dream team points
Matt Buntine 12  kicks 4 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 5 tackles 79 dream team points
George Churchill Grey 1 behind 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 3 marks 44 dream team points
Luke Dunstan 1 goals 23 kicks 15 handballs 38 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 138 dream team points
Corey Ellison 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 54 dream team points
Jayden Hunt 12 kicks 4 handballs 16 disposals 3 marks 53 dream team points
Bailey Laurie 1 goals 6 kicks 17 handballs 23 disposals 2 tackles 63 dream team points
Tommy McRae 6 kicks 1 handball 7 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 30 dream team points
Judd McVee 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 20 dream team points
Bryce Milford 1 kicks 6 handballs 7 disposals 15 dream team points
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 1 behind 9 kicks 6 handballs 15 disposals 6 marks 58 dream team points
James Munro 1 goals 9 kicks 19 handballs 28 disposals 1 marks 2 tackles 75 dream team points
Trent Rivers 1 behind 17 kicks 4 handballs 21 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 93 dream team points
Miles Shepherd 2 kicks 4 handballs 6 disposals 1 marks 1 tackle 21 dream team points
Deakyn Smith 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 48 dream team points
Josh Smith 1 goal 1 behind 3 kicks 1 handballs 4 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 6 hit outs 41 dream team points
Roan Steele 1 goal 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 1 tackles 65 dream team points
Jacob Van Rooyen 2 goals 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 2 tackles 2 hit outs 67 dream team points
Sam Weideman 1 goal 2 behinds 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 7 marks 1 hit out 69 dream team points
Mitch White 2 goals 13 kicks 5 handballs 18 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 82 dream team points
Taj Woewodin 1 goals 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 61 dream team points

MFC could do worse than rookie Ellison in 2023. I saw him kick five goals at Werribee and thought he played well yesterday in the backline. 

Is there any word on why Daw was out yesterday. 

9 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Call me crazy and i'll no doubt cop some heat over this but....

Although he doesn't have the elusiveness & skills on his left side, nor the aerial acrobatics (yet).  Is also more likely to be played as a small forward / occasional mid rather than an attacking HB.

In the three matches i've seen Moniz he reminds me just a tad of something akin to a very very raw Gavin Wanganeen.  While i'm in no way suggesting he will have the sort of career Wanganeen had, this kid might be heading towards something pretty special (in his own right).  Very early days though of course.

I must say I’ve really been impressed with Moniz 

11 MFC Listed in Casey on the weekend.  Rivers will be back in the MFC team very soon. He’s too good for VFL and offers a lot of defensive pressure, run and energy in our back half. 

12 Casey listed. That’s a good blend and shows some of the strength in the local players. Guys like Munro and White are seasoned VFL players but it’s great to see youngsters like Grey, Ellison, Bell, Steele and Baldi getting games and standing up at the level.  

I thought that was Jack Bell's best game at VFL level. I reckon he's really starting to adjust well ro senior level.

Still fairly skinny and would get monsterd at AFL level, but certainly starting to put together a good patch of form.

35 minutes ago, Demongirl35 said:

I must say I’ve really been impressed with Moniz 

He’ll play for the Dees at some point this season. 

28 minutes ago, Kelpien said:

He’ll [Moniz] play for the Dees at some point this season. 

Any thoughts where and for whom?

18 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dunstan. Again far too good for VFL but seems to lack that inch of pace and decision making at the highest level.  If he gets another AFL game, I’d hypnotize him and get him to go bull at a gate and bang it long when kicking. 

Kick it long to Royce.

Thank you to everyone for your contributions. This thread is compulsory reading each week for those of us off Broadway. It's appreciated. QD.

10 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Play Jackson and Mitch Brown as the keys and use Bedford off the bench. Brown hasn't had a kick for a month.

We'd be out-marked repeatedly in our forward line, leading to no crumbing opportunities, and you'd then write Bedford off for failing to impact the game.

Meanwhile either Gawn would be rucked into the ground, or we'd be even shorter and less likely to take a forward 50 mark if we moved Jackson into the ruck when resting Gawn.

14 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

How Bedford doesn't get a game has got me beat? Prefer him than BBB.

Hardly like for like.

Based on what I’ve seen, I think Woewoden will debut before a lot of the others.

3 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Based on what I’ve seen, I think Woewoden will debut before a lot of the others.

He is an outside chance next season after another pre season with us. Is not the worst and uses the ball well.

26 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Based on what I’ve seen, I think Woewoden will debut before a lot of the others.

No way.  He is a long long way from a debut.

Definitely won't happen this year.

21 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dunstan. Again far too good for VFL but seems to lack that inch of pace and decision making at the highest level.  If he gets another AFL game, I’d hypnotize him and get him to go bull at a gate and bang it long when kicking. 

This bloke can play very nicely on the inside NS....i agree re bull at a gate.  I remember when we were all screaming for Clarry to break out using some grunt (driving his legs on the burst) to the outside and kick more often.

With enough training (probably full pre-season) i reckon it just might be possible for Dunstan as well.  Take his game to another level.... what an asset he would be

Edited June 13, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

Based on what I’ve seen, I think Woewoden will debut before a lot of the others.

Good progress. Good signs so far.  But probably earliest debut is in 2023 imv