1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Preuss got one week.  Brown got two. 

They both were offered one week with an early guilty plea weren't they?

Jeezuz if we had known earlier it would have saved a hell of a lot of posts on Weid, TMac and BBB. Sheeesh what a let down.!!

History repeating!??

BB was the glaring non pick in this same game last year at the G for mine and on the day we had so many decent entries i50 but there were very few targets on offer for those up the field to kick to.  Plenty of holes for leading as well but the leads were pretty much non existent.

Perfect conditions for footy that day and prior to the bounce i mentioned to bro "hey the missing ingredient today me thinks... BB!".

Who knows if we would have won but for me this was the match that we could've/should've won last season.

No fault of the selection committee this time around but BB is about to miss against GWS again...grrr.

He was picked the following week and the rest as they say....is history.

Just now, Demon Dynasty said:

History repeating!??

BB was the glaring non pick in this same game last year at the G for mine and on the day we had so many decent entries i50 but there were very few targets on offer for those up the field to kick to.  Plenty of holes for leading as well but the leads were pretty much non existent.

Perfect conditions for footy that day and prior to the bounce i mentioned to bro "hey the missing ingredient today me thinks... BB!".

Who knows if we would have won but for me this was the match that we could've/should've won last season.

No fault of the selection committee this time around but BB is about to miss against GWS again...grrr.

He was picked the following week and the rest as they say....is history.

Thought exactly the same

Although in this instance we'll have Weid, last time we went with T Mac as the lone tall if you exclude Jackson

17 minutes ago, adonski said:

Thought exactly the same

Although in this instance we'll have Weid, last time we went with T Mac as the lone tall if you exclude Jackson

My personal view Adonski is that we should avoid playing both T-Mac & Weid in the same team, assuming the FD are adamant they're both playing as genuine forwards inside 50 most of the time.

Obviously this week it's not an issue as there's no one else to come in to replace either.

They are both looking for the ball in similar parts of the ground (if playing an  i50 role) and leading into similar lanes....they often end up getting in each other's road or leading into the same lanes and neither seem able to work different parts of the ground (i50)  in a cohesion sense.

Also Weid is pretty ordinary once the ball hits the deck IMV, T-Mac only slightly better here or possibly worse?  We will need Kozzie & Spargo to be really switched on pressure wise.

GWS will have their belief up after last year's effort.  Take them lightly at our peril.

Edited April 11, 20223 yr by Demon Dynasty

What’s Brown doing throwing elbows? The last player I would ever expect to do that.

Incredibly lucky to just get one week.

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And in fairness to Brown it sounds he was targeted off the ball all night.

If that's the case then it's the umpires duty of care in looking after Ben and they failed miserably once again.

 

It doesn’t just sound like it, he was. I mentioned it in a post during the game.  
 

34 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

What’s Brown doing throwing elbows? The last player I would ever expect to do that.

Incredibly lucky to just get one week.

Maybe we're giving him too much benefit of the doubt but I'd suspect it's an indication of how frustrated he was with what Williamstown were doing to him off the ball.

Gaff's a fair player too but Fremantle got to him that day and he lashed out.

Anyway, I suppose the only selection question now is whether Smith gets back in and, if so, who makes way.

Smith didn't deserve to lose his spot but I'm not convinced he deserves to push Tomlinson or Hunt out of the 23.

I didn't watch GWS game but is it true Whitfield buckled his knee during the game and is in some doubt?

Anyone see the attention Max was getting during his gut running from spot to spot. So we are saying here and everywhere that tagging is stepping up to keep good players away from the play, and is ok because the umpires are too absorbed with a myriad of other rule interpretations to worry about it, and just let the replays pick them up.Gimme a break, if it happens to Max and other good players I'll be on the warpath.

This will not be a desirable trend to be happening all because of some two bit coach who hasn't  got the cattle to keep up.

Ben Brown wouldn't be playing anyhow. He was ****house against Willy. In : Petty Out: Tomlinson Joel.Smith the sub.

On 4/7/2022 at 11:16 PM, DeeSpencer said:

I wanted to reach through the tv and slap the big Neanderthal for once again throwing his team mates under the bus in public. By far his worst trait as captain. 

I think it was actually a wry dig at Lever whose " job" that usually is 

Jon Ralph seems to be running some form of campaign to get Ben Brown’s MRP suspension increased to 3-4 weeks. That’s ludicrous when you look at the outcome. Not normally into conspiracy theories but he is with the Herald Sun and didn’t they run a nasty little campaign against our coach in the off season? 

2 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Jon Ralph seems to be running some form of campaign to get Ben Brown’s MRP suspension increased to 3-4 weeks. That’s ludicrous when you look at the outcome. Not normally into conspiracy theories but he is with the Herald Sun and didn’t they run a nasty little campaign against our coach in the off season? 

Richmond supporter. He wants him out for ANZAC eve.

3 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Jon Ralph seems to be running some form of campaign to get Ben Brown’s MRP suspension increased to 3-4 weeks.

He doesn't understand or is deliberately ignoring the AFL's MRO classification rules and just trying to create controversy and clickbait. 

It was graded as deliberate, low impact, high contact.  AFL rules say two weeks down to 1 for early plea.

Looking at clearer vision the guy was running, against the flight of the ball, directly at BB with his left arm up readying to make contact with bb's chest, throat or jaw.  BB was running with and watching the flight of the ball so his elbow/forearm looks like a reflex to the guy's extended arm but being on the run and so tall he got the guy in the head. 

No excuse but it it isn't as bad as the media is making.

Edited April 11, 20223 yr by Lucifers Hero

BB is not a dirty player. I doubt he intended to connect the way he did. He'll learn from it but not ideal the way his season has been interrupted by covid and now this.

The Weid gets another reprieve. Can't say i'm confident he'll take advantage

In comparing BB and Ryder penalties:  Jonathan Brown pleaded with AFL general manager of football Brad Scott to reassess the penalties handed out in the VFL...“It’s an action in an elite competition, Scotty, fix that up. Fix that up.”  afl-greats-staggered-by-pair-of-contrasting-bans

J.Brown showing his ignorance as BB's action in the VFL was assessed by AFL MRO rules and is ignoring that high impact (Ryder) with concussion is judged more severely than low impact (Brown). 

Just look at the Tim English hit on Blakey a few weeks ago.  Much worse action than Ryder but got off without even a fine.  That is the question they should be asking the MRO to justify.

Edited April 12, 20223 yr by Lucifers Hero

10 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

My personal view Adonski is that we should avoid playing both T-Mac & Weid in the same team, assuming the FD are adamant they're both playing as genuine forwards inside 50 most of the time.

Obviously this week it's not an issue as there's no one else to come in to replace either.

They are both looking for the ball in similar parts of the ground (if playing an  i50 role) and leading into similar lanes....they often end up getting in each other's road or leading into the same lanes and neither seem able to work different parts of the ground (i50)  in a cohesion sense.

Also Weid is pretty ordinary once the ball hits the deck IMV, T-Mac only slightly better here or possibly worse?  We will need Kozzie & Spargo to be really switched on pressure wise.

GWS will have their belief up after last year's effort.  Take them lightly at our peril.

Well at least the behind the play villain - Greene will not be there  ( still two weeks to serve )

10 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Anyway, I suppose the only selection question now is whether Smith gets back in and, if so, who makes way.

Smith didn't deserve to lose his spot but I'm not convinced he deserves to push Tomlinson or Hunt out of the 23.

What about Petty ? I thought he played well against The Town.. 

Frustrating re Brown. 

No change then. 

Midfield need to fire up a bit imo. Especially against this mob, we know what happened last time at the G against them. 

Oliver and Trac need to lift their ball use and please stop kicking to both Tom and Weed in the same contest. 

 

I’m confident the selectors will bring Smith back in this week if he is available. I’m not confident as to who will make way for him. 

Smith for Hunt, Petty for Tommo. Or neither. Anybody not selected is unlucky, either way. Crazy times as a Dees supporter! 

29 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Frustrating re Brown. 

No change then. 

Midfield need to fire up a bit imo. Especially against this mob, we know what happened last time at the G against them. 

Oliver and Trac need to lift their ball use and please stop kicking to both Tom and Weed in the same contest. 

 

And maybe just leave Kozzie up fwd full time. To stay within kicking distance of the taller white posts.

 

Edited April 11, 20223 yr by leave it to deever

13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Umpires have a duty of care on the night in making sure this off the ball stuff doesn't happen.

It's a complete disgrace that they failed in their duty of care for Ben.

If the umpires have a duty of care, has the AFL empowered them by giving them a rule they can use for this purpose? For example, hasn't the AFL been saying for some time that they will be clamping down on off-the-ball incidents?

I detest the off-the-ball niggle whether it's pushing and shoving or something worse. I'd rather it was stopped at the source thereby removing the need for some players to feel they have to retaliate.