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NON-MFC: Round 4, 2022


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1 minute ago, FarNorthernD said:

Yes I only just realised I don’t watch non-Melbourne games to see who wins, but rather to barrack for a side to lose. Huge shame that the Bombers got up, the Hawthorn match is looking promising and hopefully the wheels can fall off the Carlton bandwagon. I’m not a nice person. 

That's alright mate. Your heart's in the right place.

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8 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Starting to think St Kilda are a chance to feature in prelim final week.

Both clubs had a brief taste in 2018 and 2020 and then had down years.

Why not them?

I'll believe it when I see it. 

They're all over Hawthorn but so was Carlton last week and Hawthorn fought back.

Even assuming that doesn't happen, I maintain that Hawthorn's not a good side. It's clear now that beating Port Adelaide in Adelaide isn't what we thought it might have been. Their other win was vs North.

I suspect Hawthorn is far more likely to be like Adelaide from 2021 than, say, us from 2021. Adelaide last year got off to a flyer, were 3-1, had beaten Geelong...then finished bottom 4. (FWIW, Collingwood may fall into the same sort of bracket - I'm not sure they're fit or good enough to keep playing the way McRae's had them playing so far this year).

St Kilda look like they may be a solid side from the mid third of the ladder but I'm more than happy to reserve judgment until the end of the year to see if they produce consistent football.

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8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I'll believe it when I see it. 

They're all over Hawthorn but so was Carlton last week and Hawthorn fought back.

Even assuming that doesn't happen, I maintain that Hawthorn's not a good side. It's clear now that beating Port Adelaide in Adelaide isn't what we thought it might have been. Their other win was vs North.

I suspect Hawthorn is far more likely to be like Adelaide from 2021 than, say, us from 2021. Adelaide last year got off to a flyer, were 3-1, had beaten Geelong...then finished bottom 4. (FWIW, Collingwood may fall into the same sort of bracket - I'm not sure they're fit or good enough to keep playing the way McRae's had them playing so far this year).

St Kilda look like they may be a solid side from the mid third of the ladder but I'm more than happy to reserve judgment until the end of the year to see if they produce consistent football.

Agree it’s far too early to make big calls about St Kilda but there’s a bit of evidence starting to mount up.

A Win over a 3-1 Fremantle in hostile territory.

A win over highly likely finalist in Richmond.

A dominant  first half today over a side that probably won’t play finals but a team that has stated the season well nonetheless.

They’ve started the season in great fashion and I’m sure our club will be taking a bit of notice of them.

 

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So the Carlton player kicking in after Davies put it out on the full moves one way, then changes direction (to kick across goal) while still outside the playing surface. That's out of bounds & a throw in. Do the umpires not know the rules? It's fair dinkum amateur hour.

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14 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Agree it’s far too early to make big calls about St Kilda but there’s a bit of evidence starting to mount up.

A Win over a 3-1 Fremantle in hostile territory.

A win over highly likely finalist in Richmond.

A dominant  first half today over a side that probably won’t play finals but a team that has stated the season well nonetheless.

They’ve started the season in great fashion and I’m sure our club will be taking a bit of notice of them.

The same Fremantle who struggled to put away a likely bottom 4 side in Adelaide?

They trailed Richmond by more than 4 goals halfway through the third quarter, but then played 1.5 good quarters and won.

Similar to the Fremantle game, where they trailed for the first 2.5 quarters but then playing 1.5 good quarters to win.

Looks like they'll keep it up vs Hawthorn but still, I need to see more.

Also just took a look at their fixture, and it's brutal. They have two games still to come against each of Brisbane, Geelong and Sydney, as well as still having to play us, Carlton and the Dogs, they have six more interstate games (one of which is their own home game in Cairns) and one of those two Geelong matches is in Geelong, 

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1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

All the talk about him being worth $700k a year boggles through mind 

There's got to be questions about his application.

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34 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Also just took a look at their fixture, and it's brutal. They have two games still to come against each of Brisbane, Geelong and Sydney, as well as still having to play us, Carlton and the Dogs, they have six more interstate games (one of which is their own home game in Cairns) and one of those two Geelong matches is in Geelong, 

And who’s  to say they won’t go 4-2 against Brisbane, Geelong and Sydney?

And who’s  to say they won’t beat us at the G, a venue where we’ve been quite frankly pathetic against St Kilda in recent years?

IMO they’re a team on the rise and they’ve got a terrific percentage as a launching pad.

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6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

50 m.  FMD.  What is the rule?

No one knows. The umps certainly don't. They [censored] around with talking back to the ump and encroaching 1cm sideways of the mark if a player fakes a handpass. But what about the fundamental rules of the game?

Leave contentious things like holding the ball/man out of it for the moment.

They allow flagrant rugby passes. I'm not talking about slick handpasses where it's hard to tell if it's legal or not. I mean full on two handed scoops.

They allow kicks that go 7 and 8 metres. They allow players to run more than 15 metres.

They allow flagrant pushes in the back.

Things that have not been seen in the game since year dot, until very recently.

They're adjudicating to an imaginary version of the rules that only exists in someone's head.

They can't get basic, fundamental laws of the game right. They are incompetent.

The umpires are incompetent because they are led by incompetents who don't know what they are supposed to be doing.

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5 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

No one knows. The umps certainly don't. They [censored] around with talking back to the ump and encroaching 1cm sideways of the mark if a player fakes a handpass. But what about the fundamental rules of the game?

Leave contentious things like holding the ball/man out of it for the moment.

They allow flagrant rugby passes. I'm not talking about slick handpasses where it's hard to tell if it's legal or not. I mean full on two handed scoops.

They allow kicks that go 7 and 8 metres. They allow players to run more than 15 metres.

They allow flagrant pushes in the back.

Things that have not been seen in the game since year dot, until very recently.

They're adjudicating to an imaginary version of the rules that only exists in someone's head.

They can't get basic, fundamental laws of the game right. They are incompetent.

The umpires are incompetent because they are led by incompetents who don't know what they are supposed to be doing.

Tell us what you really think….

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