On 27/03/2022 at 01:55, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Langdon playing a hard running wing role in those conditions and playing 100% game time is not human. 

Of course it's not.  Lingers is 'a machine'.

Just amazed by Bowey’s game and continued linear improvement this season. Trying to think to who may be comparable to him in the past and dual Brownlow medalist Keith Grieg comes to mind. Silky smooth, composed, unflappable skilful half back flanker. Of more recent times Nathan Buckley comes to mind with similar refined and complete skill levels at  the start of his career. 

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by John Crow Batty

  On 27/03/2022 at 02:05, layzie said:

I'm gobsmacked that Viney might have a case to answer for in that bump incident with whoever it was (Maybe Sharp?). 

Can’t wait for Viney’s little girl to be a father/daughter pick. Don’t think the AFLW would be ready for it 😁

  On 26/03/2022 at 22:43, Nasher said:

Was that the one that resulted in a Gold Coast free kick? If I remember it rightly, it was a two on one contest, Viney completely cleaned Petracca up, and the Gold Coast player got a free for high contact. LOL

Yep, pretty sure it was.

Inconsistency from the umps has to be the most frustrating part of our game at the moment.

Just weird last night. Must drive the players insane.

  On 26/03/2022 at 15:58, David-Demon said:

To be eligible for nomination, the player must be under the age of 21 at 1 January that year, and have played ten or fewer AFL games as of the start of the season. A player can only be nominated once per season; if a player is suspended during the season, he may be nominated, but will not be eligible to win the award.

I ask " Why not" ?   He qualifies.

Is it too early to call JVR the first player to win it twice?

If he dominates the last 9 games and wins it, I still think he is eligible the following year under the criteria.

  On 26/03/2022 at 23:12, Mike said:

I know we've had a lot of very good talent come through in recent times, but I can't remember a player come into the team in recent times and be as composed and assured as Bowey. This kid is unbelievable. During the games now when the ball ends up in his hands I find myself breathing a sigh of relief because he just always does something good with it.

 

Agree with you and also Salem.

  On 27/03/2022 at 01:18, george_on_the_outer said:

And is there any chance they can find a team of boundary umpires who can throw the ball in further than 5 metres? Every last one of them was delivering short throws. Pity was that our rucks didn’t wake up to it all night…..let alone the field umpires who should have recalled them. 
Maybe the AFL needs to implement the AFLW method of throwing in 5m inboard of the boundary line?

Jackson's first quarter goal came because he was able to capitalise on the short throw in!

  On 27/03/2022 at 01:18, george_on_the_outer said:

And is there any chance they can find a team of boundary umpires who can throw the ball in further than 5 metres? Every last one of them was delivering short throws. Pity was that our rucks didn’t wake up to it all night…..let alone the field umpires who should have recalled them. 
Maybe the AFL needs to implement the AFLW method of throwing in 5m inboard of the boundary line?

Exactly George and even the centre bounces didn’t bounce high at all. Overall a below average performance by the umps and I am being very kind in my description. 

  On 27/03/2022 at 02:12, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Hi BAMF. If it was then the other 50% were probably curious locals that got free tickets with the happy meals they bought during the week. On more than one occasion the commentators mentioned decisions that weren't popular with the home crowd to the sound of four people booing in the background. 

Imo it was more like 80/20 Dees. When I was walking through the crowd all u could see was a sea of Dees supporters with a scattering of Gold Coast jerseys. 

It’s amazing what a premiership does. 

Jackson is a gun and God we need to re-sign him. Will be a massive loss if he doesn’t. 

Does anyone have anymore info on this?

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  On 26/03/2022 at 23:00, Pates said:

Wasn’t the best but take the win and move on. We had a few of these to start the season last year (in fact I vaguely remember our first 3-4 wins all hovered between 18-28 points). GC gave us a push, they look more like a team wanting to earn respect. 

We looked like a team that just wanted the 4 points and not much else, I’m good with us just ticking off wins. That said Kozzie and Trac really needed to nail their late shots on goal, luckily GC were struggling to hit the target as well. 

If Weid puts in a good run of performances TMac might start to feel nervous, if we’re including the latter stages of last season Tom’s form has dropped significantly since his injury last season. 

T Mac was a liability last night

Got in everyones way all game looks past it to me! Thinks like a one  transistor computer

The harder he tries the worst he gets

Gold Coast played well last night. They had a plan for us, avoiding the Langdon wing, creating marking contests, no easy marks to be had at all for us, hard at it around the ball, defensively solid although our delivery to our forwards was sloppy

Miller is A-grade, Chol was a handful, Rowell is tough as. With Rankine to come back in I reckon they’ll win a fair few games this year

We badly need Lever back in the team. We’re conceding too many inside 50 marks and scoring chances. With more composure the Suns could have been closer and made it a nervy last quarter. We will lose sooner rather than later if we meet an accurate opponent. We have to get Rick back in to marshal that defence

Bowey was exceptional. Other than 1 errant handball in midfield his disposal was flawless. He has that rare quality of always appearing to have plenty of time. Positions himself perfectly, reads the play so well.

Dogga is a beast. He’s now clunking marks that he was dropping last year. Sign him up now.

Kozzie never gives his opponents a second of peace. Always hunting and harrying. Took his 2 goals well. He’s going to have a monster game soon. It’s brewing

Trac was BOG. Played his typical brutish game

We got the win while playing without some key defenders. We’ll put the points in the bank and move on

P.S. Metricon is a lovely stadium. Pity none of the locals have any interest in heading along to see their team. Dees supporters outnumbered the Suns fans 60:40 I reckon.

  On 26/03/2022 at 13:30, Bay Riffin said:

we do need Williams to get onto him with that kicking ball magic.

Funny you should say that.  In pre-match warm ups Williams take 1 or 2 players and gives them 30m kicking practice in a 1 on 1 session with him in the middle of the ground.

Hunt was one of those last year and i reckon Williams would be working with him for sure.

He just kills attacking momentum as he did last night will ill-directed or executed passing.

  On 27/03/2022 at 04:32, Kent said:

T Mac was a liability last night

Got in everyones way all game looks past it to me! Thinks like a one  transistor computer

The harder he tries the worst he gets

No way could I figure out TMAc's role.

brwon and Fritshc with Maxy resting are the forward weapons now. I love Tom but gee I hope he can find some form and a role that works for the team.

  On 27/03/2022 at 05:29, Demon17 said:

No way could I figure out TMAc's role.

brwon and Fritshc with Maxy resting are the forward weapons now. I love Tom but gee I hope he can find some form and a role that works for the team.

Seems Tom has been off the boil since BBB settled back into the side, he's now the third wheel behind Fritsch and Brown whereas he was 2nd before that. It's as though he's unsure of what's expected or he's having difficulty filling that role.

  On 27/03/2022 at 05:46, loges said:

It's as though he's unsure of what's expected or he's having difficulty filling that role.

That's one take. My take is he does his role really well. He crashes packs, he has had innumerous 'almost' marks, and he gets up to the wing and motors back. He's doing a fine job, of creating space and distractions for BBB and BF.

In all genuineness @loges -  What do you think his role is? (as your take is that he is having difficulty filling it, and or unsure of what's expected)

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by Engorged Onion

  On 26/03/2022 at 23:05, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Gawn is on the record as stating that he finds Witts to be a formidable opponent.  Chol was also quite difficult at the centre bounces and looks to be quite the athlete, despite not being able to maintain the rage all game, although, I think most players out on the ground were just about spent at 3/4 time with the humidity.

Have to admit I've completely forgotten how a Victorian winter feels like after 20 years in central and North Queensland. The missus and I both took hoodies to the game. I cant even comprehend an overnight minimum under 20 at this time of year. And humidity? We were happy to be 1000km closer to the south pole for a change. It was quite cool for us.

Was nice to see a game for the first time in about 7 years though.

 

 

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by faultydet

  On 27/03/2022 at 05:59, Engorged Onion said:

That's one take. My take is he does his role really well. He crashes packs, he has had innumerous 'almost' marks, and he gets up to the wing and motors back. He's doing a fine job, of creating space and distractions for BBB and BF.

In all genuineness @loges -  What do you think his role is? (as your take is that he is having difficulty filling it, and or unsure of what's expected)

In all honesty EO I honestly am not sure, sort of throwing it out there to see what others think His form seemed to drop after BB came back in late in the year and started playing good footy. He still contests well but is not marking too often.

It could even be confidence, great in 2018 very ordinary 2019/2020, really good again up to and including Port Adelaide game last year and then much quieter since. Just can't work him out. I would have thought with BB and Fritsch getting more of the attention he should be able to get under the oppositions guard more often.

  On 27/03/2022 at 06:29, loges said:

In all honesty EO I honestly am not sure, sort of throwing it out there to see what others think His form seemed to drop after BB came back in late in the year and started playing good footy. He still contests well but is not marking too often.

It could even be confidence, great in 2018 very ordinary 2019/2020, really good again up to and including Port Adelaide game last year and then much quieter since. Just can't work him out. I would have thought with BB and Fritsch getting more of the attention he should be able to get under the oppositions guard more often.

I get that @loges - I flip it on the head. He is there to help Bayley get under the guard, whilst being a strong mark himself. Although both are reliable kicks for goals, Tom just aint quite sticking the marks. In the previous post, I was going to write something analogous to Luke Jackson not sticking marks - but 'that' is only ever appropriate early in your career from a spectators/supporters perspective. Not for Tom though... BUT it's beyond that output.. it's halving contests, and his ability to run and run and run...not quick.. just [censored] consistently as tall bloke. Personally, I love Tom, but it's an unconventional love,  I'm 42 - and when I was in my teens - all my mates fantasied about Pamela Anderson, they had Baywatch posters on their wall...I fantasied about Waimea Bay...and Brooke Satchwell.

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by Engorged Onion

  On 27/03/2022 at 05:59, Engorged Onion said:

That's one take. My take is he does his role really well. He crashes packs, he has had innumerous 'almost' marks, and he gets up to the wing and motors back. He's doing a fine job, of creating space and distractions for BBB and BF.

In all genuineness @loges

 .Exactly.

I dont get the knocks of tmac.

He played his role fine (ie the one you accurately describe) this week.

And in round one, he went back and played great.

I think people need to get their head around the need to look past the raw numbers and stats when assessing a player's form.

The focus should be on how they are performing their role. 

The same conversation happens on here about kossie.

It is no coincidence that when asked sbout syers his distractions mention was praising kossie's pressure. No mention of the goals. 

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by binman

Tom please get back to extending them dukes instead of trying to take marks close to your chest , also I have noticed he is focusing more of his surroundings and less on hitting the ball at pace . I don't think he is too far away though,  just needs to find that aggression and hit up hard leads .

  On 27/03/2022 at 06:38, binman said:

 .Exactly.

I dont get the knocks of tmac.

He played his role fine (ie the one you accurately describe) this week.

And in round one, he went back and played great.

I think people need to get their head around the need to look past the raw numbers and stats when assessing a player's form.

The focus should be on how they are performing their role. 

The same conversation happens on here about kossie.

It is no coincidence that when asked sbout syers his distractions mention was praising kossie's pressure. No mention of the goals. 

I thought TMac hurt his back last year around time BBB came back in and also had a new baby. He struggled rest of year, but as mentioned did play a role, and enabled Fritsch & BBB to get free.

To see him just clunk one or two more marks a game will help change the perception.

An interesting insight into our game tactics from Goodwin's press conf.

He was asked about our trouble scoring in the last qrtr when we kicked 5 pts.  His response (paraphrasing):  "We didn't need to score to win the game. We had built up a lead that we needed to defend".

  On 27/03/2022 at 04:57, BDA said:

Gold Coast played well last night. They had a plan for us, avoiding the Langdon wing, creating marking contests, no easy marks to be had at all for us, hard at it around the ball, defensively solid although our delivery to our forwards was sloppy

Miller is A-grade, Chol was a handful, Rowell is tough as. With Rankine to come back in I reckon they’ll win a fair few games this year

We badly need Lever back in the team. We’re conceding too many inside 50 marks and scoring chances. With more composure the Suns could have been closer and made it a nervy last quarter. We will lose sooner rather than later if we meet an accurate opponent. We have to get Rick back in to marshal that defence

Bowey was exceptional. Other than 1 errant handball in midfield his disposal was flawless. He has that rare quality of always appearing to have plenty of time. Positions himself perfectly, reads the play so well.

Dogga is a beast. He’s now clunking marks that he was dropping last year. Sign him up now.

Kozzie never gives his opponents a second of peace. Always hunting and harrying. Took his 2 goals well. He’s going to have a monster game soon. It’s brewing

Trac was BOG. Played his typical brutish game

We got the win while playing without some key defenders. We’ll put the points in the bank and move on

P.S. Metricon is a lovely stadium. Pity none of the locals have any interest in heading along to see their team. Dees supporters outnumbered the Suns fans 60:40 I reckon.

Good post and I don't really disagree with your comment on our defence and the need for Lever to come back.

But out of interest I had a look at the stat for scores conceded from inside 50s against.

The Dogs scored from 31% of their inside 50s, and Gold Coast 32%.

Those the two lowest rates in the 17 games played so far.

Next worst was North vs Hawthorn in Round 1 at 34%. 

  On 27/03/2022 at 06:35, Engorged Onion said:

I get that @loges - I flip it on the head. He is there to help Bayley get under the guard, whilst being a strong mark himself. Although both are reliable kicks for goals, Tom just aint quite sticking the marks. In the previous post, I was going to write something analogous to Luke Jackson not sticking marks - but 'that' is only ever appropriate early in your career from a spectators/supporters perspective. Not for Tom though... BUT it's beyond that output.. it's halving contests, and his ability to run and run and run...not quick.. just [censored] consistently as tall bloke. Personally, I love Tom, but it's an unconventional love,  I'm 42 - and when I was in my teens - all my mates fantasied about Pamela Anderson, they had Baywatch posters on their wall...I fantasied about Waimea Bay...and Brooke Satchwell.

Yeah I love him too, I've posted previously I was lucky enough to sit next to him on the plane to Darwin 2019 and have followed him closely ever since, No one was happier than me when he returned to form last year. I still see his effort, finding it hard to understand his fluctuations in form.