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53 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Howes kick doesn’t look too bad here:

Maybe not as fluid an action as the top end kicks, but decent touch and can get good distance.

I think McVee is the best kick of our 2021 draft crop. His foot skills look very, very good.

I thought Taj 's were the best really and other sides of his feet. But sample size small on all and all covered good distance. 

 
On 11/25/2021 at 10:16 PM, Wizard of Koz said:

He already looks harder than Gunston. Physically and attack on the ball.

I like that - built-in 'mongrel' and attitude to attack the ball.

On 11/28/2021 at 10:35 AM, leave it to deever said:

My favorite character shared the same surname as jumper number two.

As for our new recruits, I can honestly say I believe the club can do no wrong with the selections they make these days.

We have winners on and off the field in this club.

This was a great 'highlights' reel of BH. It made him look very coachable, very ready to develop to the big-time level, very innovative and 'sharing' with the ball and in getting the ball.

 
On 11/25/2021 at 10:30 PM, adonski said:

We view Howes as a wing/midfielder, from JT's draft wrap 

Winger, coming into the game for outside-mid roles. Got the run, the carry, the positioning - and the eyes for teammates.

 

35 minutes ago, 58er said:

Still no details on Mackies weaknesses. Really I just think you comment wildly with rash generalisations and maybe your knowledge is very shallow.

Imagine if any of our Coaches reported like this a player would not know what they were good at or not. 

Really not worth reading your posts Mach 5 as they lack critical detail . M


I think you need a cuddle mate. 
A+ for effort though.


1 hour ago, binman said:

Very high ball drop.

Hopefully you're right about getting good depth with his kicks as that is important attribute for a potential winger.

From the very short clip of McVee on the MFC website he looks to have a strong technique

As I remember, CP5, the reigning Norm Smith medalist, was seen to have a very high ball drop when he started, but has been corrected 

1 hour ago, binman said:

Very high ball drop.

Hopefully you're right about getting good depth with his kicks as that is important attribute for a potential winger.

From the very short clip of McVee on the MFC website he looks to have a strong technique

Petracca had the highest ball drop I have ever seen and in the grand final they were comparing him to Daicos.

It can be fixed.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Very high ball drop.

This is an issue that young George Gawn will be facing within the next year.

 
1 hour ago, monoccular said:

As I remember, CP5, the reigning Norm Smith medalist, was seen to have a very high ball drop when he started, but has been corrected 

Set shots maybe.

Still pretty high for field kicks though I reckon. A big factor in why his field kicking is so hit or miss.

Near the end of the season I read a stat that was something like trac was number one for total inside 50 kicks.

But of the top 50 was last for targets hit!

 

Just happy to welcoming more mullets into the club....


2 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

Petracca had the highest ball drop I have ever seen and in the grand final they were comparing him to Daicos.

It can be fixed.

We’ve had a number of guys really improve their kicking game in the last 12 months (Oliver & Langdon come to mind), I really think we’re providing a great environment for players to develop their skills.

Am comfortable that Williams & co will help Howes clean up deficiencies in technique, he already seems to make good decisions with ball in hand, which is often half the trouble.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Set shots maybe.

Still pretty high for field kicks though I reckon. A big factor in why his field kicking is so hit or miss.

Near the end of the season I read a stat that was something like trac was number one for total inside 50 kicks.

But of the top 50 was last for targets hit!

 

Truck played the game of his life in the GF and has always said he wants to be a big game player.

I think his ball drop has improved but we will see next year. I would bet he will have the most goal assists in the league. And Oliver the most handballs to the player with the most goal assists in the league.

Howes has plenty of time to develop the ball drop from the limited footage might be an area he needs to work on

 

1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

Truck played the game of his life in the GF and has always said he wants to be a big game player.

I think his ball drop has improved but we will see next year. I would bet he will have the most goal assists in the league. And Oliver the most handballs to the player with the most goal assists in the league.

Howes has plenty of time to develop the ball drop from the limited footage might be an area he needs to work on

 

 

3 hours ago, binman said:

Set shots maybe.

Still pretty high for field kicks though I reckon. A big factor in why his field kicking is so hit or miss.

Near the end of the season I read a stat that was something like trac was number one for total inside 50 kicks.

But of the top 50 was last for targets hit!

 

Umm. Where to begin? The guy has just played one of the all-time great GF games - replete with superlative kicks, from the penetrating to the precise - and people are debating the dodgy height of his ball drop (so to speak). You couldn't invent it. 

38 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

 

Umm. Where to begin? The guy has just played one of the all-time great GF games - replete with superlative kicks, from the penetrating to the precise - and people are debating the dodgy height of his ball drop (so to speak). You couldn't invent it. 

Ooh sorry. I didn't realise it was sacrilegious to suggest trac is not perfect.

I'm really glad I didn't mention his disposal efficiency for the season was 62% - placing him at 6 on tbe Frost Salem scale.

Edited by binman

Too late to change his ball drop. Good coaching will identify how to take advantage of his kicking.

Clarrie's kicking style could also be criticised for not being as classy as Salem's, but so what? He is more than effective and penetrating so let it go.


Let it go?

You sound concerned, but fear not,  I've had therapy to deal with the deep seated issues I have with trac's kicking.

I have my bad days, but all in all I've made peace with it.

Edited by binman

1 hour ago, Redlagged said:

 

Umm. Where to begin? The guy has just played one of the all-time great GF games - replete with superlative kicks, from the penetrating to the precise - and people are debating the dodgy height of his ball drop (so to speak). You couldn't invent it. 

Can we end with the ‘he won the norm Smith’/‘played well’/‘is a premiership player’ reply every time someone points out something about a premiership player.

No one is wanting to change a single second of the grand final but there’s still room for improvement with even our best players and the team as a whole.

The stats and the eye test both say Petracca’s kicking could get even better. Same with Oliver. Tracc especially could get a half decent left foot too. They’ve only had one season with Choco. Our draft picks get to come in working with Choco from the get go. Howes’ action looks a bit hit and miss. Choco should sort that out pretty quickly.

While we're at it, I thought Oliver's handball to Sparrow could have been a bit flatter.

9 hours ago, binman said:

Not sure where to put this, so here is as good as anywhere.

A question to anyone who has seen more of our new draftees than their highlights tape - how good are each boy's kicking skills on the Frost - Salem scale (Frost being 1 and Salem being 10)?

I must admit  I am impressed with your scale.  We could make a killing out of this.  How about a scale for moral fibre (De Goey being 0 and Stynes being 10),  I am sure there could be many more.

9 minutes ago, loges said:

While we're at it, I thought Oliver's handball to Sparrow could have been a bit flatter.

And more importantly should Sparrow have given it back


2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Can we end with the ‘he won the norm Smith’/‘played well’/‘is a premiership player’ reply every time someone points out something about a premiership player.

No one is wanting to change a single second of the grand final but there’s still room for improvement with even our best players and the team as a whole.

The stats and the eye test both say Petracca’s kicking could get even better. Same with Oliver. Tracc especially could get a half decent left foot too. They’ve only had one season with Choco. Our draft picks get to come in working with Choco from the get go. Howes’ action looks a bit hit and miss. Choco should sort that out pretty quickly.

Well perhaps we could remove the 2 goals the bullies kicked in the second.

19 hours ago, Skuit said:

Definitely pokes at it. Outcomes don't seem too bad, but it's a flick of the lower leg rather than kicking through it. I also think we should be looking into his running mechanics. Seems to take twice as many steps than necessary. 

The moment I read this I started visualising a video clip of a player running around with Benny Hill music playing over the top.

 
On 11/26/2021 at 8:28 PM, adonski said:

Some clearer Howes footage here

 

left hand bounce, right foot kick and did he kick it to himself in the last play??

6 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

left hand bounce, right foot kick and did he kick it to himself in the last play??

Thought I was going mad too, must've been some sneaky editing I can only assume? Unless we've done a package deal and get his twin brother too


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