Farewell Luke Jackson

[layzie 34,528]

Reading this thread is like being a day trader and checking the stock exchange every day.

[Ferghus31 97]

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DubDee 26,669]

8 minutes ago, Ferghus31 said:

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

How much did you drink on the flight Fergus??

[dazzledavey36 56,278]

25 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Clayton doesn’t only touch the ball 19 times a game, you would expect a player playing as many midfield minutes as hopper you would have more than 19 touches with bugger all score involvements. 
 

If you read my post you would see I said baulking at his value of two first rounders, and compared him statistically to Sparrow, which the numbers do not lie. 

One season in what 8 making the AA 40 squad doesn’t give you a value of 2 first rounders. 
He isn’t all Australian, as you alluded to he is a pure mid that has only ever averaged 26 touches in his best season, he doesn’t kick goals, he has little score involvements… so yes I am perplexed at the potential trade value of 2 first rounders.  
 

Where do you get 19 from? His career average per disposals is 22. If you're talking about this year alone then you would know he missed 15 games this year due to a significant injury.

So you're basing this stats alone on a bloke that's had a season impacted by significant injury? that's a cheap shot really. I mean even those numbers alone are far better is far better then Sparrows.

The numbers dont lie, you're right. So that means he absolutely smashes Sparrow out of the water in every stats as a midfielder. Where on earth do you think Sparrow is better than Hopper from a midfield stats point of view?

I've just pointed out that he was in the All Australian squad of 40 as midfielder. Its his best season as a midfielder. What more do you want then? You keep banging on about how he doesnt kick enough goals as a midfielder but yet he's legitimate 3 goals behind Clayton Oliver for career goals and has missed more games due to injury.

He's not worth 2 first rounds picks but he's absolutely worth a first round pick and a player I'd happily have at Melbourne. 

[praha 11,267]

43 minutes ago, Ferghus31 said:

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot to unpack here but the comments re. Jackson's knee and Melbourne’s defensive issues are spot on. Jackson is set for knee surgery this off season.

On the defensive concerns I raised a similar concern in another thread, we defend well but transition poorly, and struggle with high pressure small forwards. Hence struggles against Sydney, Collingwood, Bulldogs, and even Freo earlier in the season. I am worried about both Raynor and Cameron on Friday night, they could be genuine game winners.

[layzie 34,528]

Ferg is the word. 

[faultydet 7,623]

2 hours ago, Ferghus31 said:

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here mate, sprinkle these through that post to make it readable hey?

 

 

Interesting info if true though.

[ding 5,126]

1 hour ago, praha said:

both Raynor and Cameron on Friday night, they could be genuine game winners.

Both played against us last time and we won by over 10 goals.

What has you worried P?

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

I heard a rumour that a known player manager was not really a manager.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

9 hours ago, Ferghus31 said:

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing.

I know a lot of people on here love to hate, but true or not it's good food for thought.

And what would we talk about if no one shared?

Thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[Lucifers Hero 40,714]

Not sure why people question  @Ferghus31.  He has had 4 posts in two years with no history of trolling or making stuff up.

I accept that what he has related is what he was told.  How much is accurate he has no way of knowing but it was good of him to report to DL.

Happy to hear this info and we make up our own minds.

 

[dazzledavey36 56,278]

Thanks for the info @Ferghus31.

Much appreciated 

[layzie 34,528]

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not sure why people question  @Ferghus31.  He has had 4 posts in two years with no history of trolling or making stuff up.

I accept that what he has related is what he was told.  How much is accurate he has no way of knowing but it was good of him to report to DL.

Happy to hear this info and we make up our own minds.

 

Very good insights from Ferghus, I think it was just the last couple of lines that were a little difficult to interpret!

[praha 11,267]

8 hours ago, ding said:

Both played against us last time and we won by over 10 goals.

What has you worried P?

MFCSS

[Lucifers Hero 40,714]

11 hours ago, Ferghus31 said:

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

 

Thanks for the info.

Is the line referring to mfc coaches?

 

[Deenooos_ 647]

10 hours ago, praha said:

Jackson is set for knee surgery this off season.

If he's needing surgery then why the hell does he continue to play. It doesn't seem very wise. I remember he had a minor tear to a tendon in r16 and that is still affecting him? Should have been dealt with sooner..

[mo64 5,910]

5 minutes ago, Deenooos_ said:

If he's needing surgery then why the hell does he continue to play. It doesn't seem very wise. I remember he had a minor tear to a tendon in r16 and that is still affecting him? Should have been dealt with sooner..

Thanks for your insight Dr. Deenooos.

[Superunknown 4,246]

Giddy up

if Nothing else Ferg will add another 23 pages 

[Deenooos_ 647]

34 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Thanks for your insight Dr. Deenooos.

oki doki

Edited September 8, 2022 by Deenooos_

[Demon17 5,259]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Very good insights from Ferghus, I think it was just the last couple of lines that were a little difficult to interpret!

I think it was a persona view and one that I fully agree with.

There's no way we fold with Viney and Oliver (plus others) in the team. Our best shot will be given and let's hope its enough.

I saw them live at the gabba recently.  First 10 minutes will tell us if wer'e in it or not IMO

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

I think whatever happens, we have the upper hand. We can really squeeze Fremantle 

[daisycutter 30,004]

heard from a good sauce that luke wants to retire and join a commune

[Mel Bourne 4,541]

12 hours ago, Ferghus31 said:

I just returned from Perth on a Virgin Flight and met a well-known player manager and forward scout for the swans the player manager stated that Freo are waiting on Lobb to Decide to go to the Bulldogs they will have to give up plenty for Him that will open the way for Jackson if he decides to go Freo  there has been no indication that he wants to leave also he has a big Knee Problem that requires an operation.

Melbourne will want plenty maybe Young or Serong have been spoken about among the Managers one interesting point that was made is Jackson appears happy with Melbourne and the WCE have not indicated any Interest and are concerned that he has no Forward Craft.

The Forward scout told me that Don Pyke of the Swans is a Brilliant Strategest and is the big reason for their improved Form he maybe the Coach of Essendon

Also, he said Goodwin is very Conservative COACH   and not daring the issue compared to other sides success in the Finals has been the enthusiasm that youth brings is infectious Melbourne needs to be daring

The player Manager told me THERE WILL BE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE Year with coaches.

Lastly what our strength the defense has become our weakness other sides realize that if the ball is below their knees they panic.

I think we have blown it but still have firm belief in those proud leaders Max Clarry Viney May and Brayshaw that they may prevail

 

 

 

 

 

 

Was there a lot of drinking on this flight?

Syntax-horror aside, interesting. 

[adonski 13,239]

Jackson is a weird player.

He is a competitive beast when the ball hits the deck, for ground ball gets & tackles

But when the ball is in the air, he's timid. Nor does he seem capable of demanding the footy in link up play

He plays like one of those guys who deep down doesn't really want the pill in his hands.

[Lord Travis 10,817]

Take whatever we can get for him and move on. He’ll never become the superstar he’s being touted as. Whether it’s mental or not, he’s been a liability at times this year. As it stands, he’s no good as a forward, no good as a midfielder, and average as a ruckman. He’s impressive for a big bloke when the ball hits the ground, but it’s a useless attribute to have as a tall player if you’re useless in the air! 

Two first rounders or one of Hayden Young or Caleb Serong please!