AFL Trade Period

[spirit of norm smith 16,292]

21 hours ago, Nascent said:

If we're only taking 1 or 2 picks into the draft then I would presume that we would move on pick 37, 49 and 57 into something better for this year or into next. 49 and 57 may come in by half a dozen spots or more and could be valuable for clubs still wanting points.

Agreed. I’d move pick 47 out to a club like the Hawks for a future 2022 3rd rounder. 

[Nascent 9,111]

Something that seems to be going under the radar, in the media at least, is the incredible situation Collingwood finds itself in where they traded away  this years 1st rounder.

From afl.com re North Melbourne firming on Horne-Francis for their first pick.

"...rivals now believing they are more unlikely to place a bid on Collingwood father-son Nick Daicos."

So in affect, Collingwood could have had Finn Callaghan (or other) and Daicos but their poor year means they will now miss out on an extra top 3 pick. Then there is the trading away of multiple picks just to get points to match for the one player. 

Glad our club is far better run.

 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,359]

Apparently Crows offered pick 4 and two future 1st rounders for pick 1 and were told no. Bafoonery at its greatest, Crows are bottom 4 for a few more years yet.

[ChaserJ 5,009]

4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Apparently Crows offered pick 4 and two future 1st rounders for pick 1 and were told no. Bafoonery at its greatest, Crows are bottom 4 for a few more years yet.

They had to shoot their shot for Horne-Francis. Wonder if North gave it any thought.

[adonski 11,840]

If that is true, sack Norf's list management team.

2x top 5 picks plus a late 1st for pick 1! And they reject it!

[Turner 1,507]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is the trade period always this boring? Or is it just because this year we have had something far more enjoyable still in the front of our minds? This is a serious question. In previous years, because we've had little else to be enthusiastic about, trading and drafting became the highlights for us. But were other years as slow and boring as this one?     

clubs are finding it tough enough as it is to pay whats already on their lists with many clubs taking across the board pay cuts and pushing money around to other years making it near on impossible to go shopping for big money signings like we're used to seeing, cheers covid

[Demon_spurs 1,833]

Fremantle have one of the worst trading records and continue with Peter Bell airing negotiations through the media, couldn't stand Bell as a player and dislike him even more as a list manager

[Turner 1,507]

be interesting to see what the lions do in the next few days and in the month between now and the draft. currently rolling with picks 14, 18, 50, 54, 60, 76, 90 but only have 2 OOC senior listed players and two retirees off the rookie list, so presuably theyll delist those two boys and re-rookie them and then try and trade up to a 3rd first rounder? or shuffle a bunch of stuff back a year -almost feels like everyone wants out of this draft after the first round/is happy with all the 1-4 year players they've been developing under their eyes instead of gambling at the draft

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,359]

8 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

They had to shoot their shot for Horne-Francis. Wonder if North gave it any thought.

The concern is if he wants to go home in 2 years. This was meant to be a super draft year, they could package up the future first rounders and try and get something.

This will bookmarked for years to come.

[Dee-licious 1,949]

9 minutes ago, adonski said:

If that is true, sack Norf's list management team.

2x top 5 picks plus a late 1st for pick 1! And they reject it!

It’s more this is how big the drop off is after the top 2. If we had 1 and were offered 3 and 4 id still want us to say no. Yes, he is that good. 

[BDA 22,735]

4 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

If we had 1 and were offered 3 and 4 id still want us to say no.

I'd say yes. JT would nail picks 3 and 4

[Jibroni 4,987]

30 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Apparently Crows offered pick 4 and two future 1st rounders for pick 1 and were told no. Bafoonery at its greatest, Crows are bottom 4 for a few more years yet.

Ive seen Jason Horne live and I would not take that trade either. I honestly believe he is the best talent from SA since Matthew Pavlich (possibly better). 

The Crows effectively offered Picks 4, 6 and 18 for 1 and 25.

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Jibroni

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,359]

1 minute ago, Jibroni said:

Ive seen Jason Horne live and I would not take that trade either. I honestly believe he is the best talent from SA since Matthew Pavlich (possibly better).

 

I’m not doubting that, I’m doubting Norf’s ability to retain him. I thought they overlooked Logan McDonald last draft for the same reason.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,359]

22 minutes ago, adonski said:

If that is true, sack Norf's list management team.

2x top 5 picks plus a late 1st for pick 1! And they reject it!

I may have missed something, where does the late 1st come into it? How is that already determined?

[Big Col 1,347]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is the trade period always this boring? Or is it just because this year we have had something far more enjoyable still in the front of our minds? This is a serious question. In previous years, because we've had little else to be enthusiastic about, trading and drafting became the highlights for us. But were other years as slow and boring as this one?     

I used to think that Trade Week and the Draft were our Grand Final - the highlight of the year.
I feel the same as you @La Dee-vina Comedia.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

What’s the name of the Twitter account that set out to see how our future pick trade with Norf would pan out?

[Jibroni 4,987]

4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I’m not doubting that, I’m doubting Norf’s ability to retain him. I thought they overlooked Logan McDonald last draft for the same reason.

Fair call, it would say more about Norths mindset than anything else.

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Jibroni

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

4 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

What’s the name of the Twitter account that set out to see how our future pick trade with Norf would pan out?

I think that account has been canned..?

[The heart beats true 18,110]

Trade week. I’ve never seen so many media pundits write so much about so many unexciting fringe players.

Callum Coleman Jones swaps places with Robbie Tarrant! What next? I won’t be able to sleep.

[Matt 424]

Not sure if anyone put this up yet:

AFL Trade Exchange - Melbourne List Manager Tim Lamb

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=913703

[Whispering_Jack 29,805]

Thankfully, the Tigers and the Kangaroos saved the day by finally came to agreement over the Robbie Tarrant/Callum Coleman-Jones which I see as a win for North Melbourne. I can see them improving next year. 

And that’s it for the week. The doors to the trade week are now officially closed for the weekend but there’s sure to be activity going on in the back rooms. 

Also, the opportunity for unrestricted free agents to move to a club of their choice closed on Friday, with several players remaining unsigned and with their futures in the balance.

Done Deals

14. Robbie Tarrant and a future second-round pick from North Melbourne and a third-round selection (currently No. 40 overall) at this year’s draft will go to Richmond. 

Callum Coleman-Jones, two third-round selections (currently No. 42 and No. 47 overall) and Richmond’s future fourth-round selection will go to North Melbourne.

[demoniac 1,330]

My older brother is a Hawks fan so I'm enjoying their attempts to offload late career mids/fwds with large contracts into a market in which Hawks over rate their draft pick value, and which generally has limited salary cap liquidity.

You can see the urgency. Having squandered 1st rounders on O'Meara and Wingard they then started rebuild with half back flankers/key position players. Mitchell knows that recent history is that to win a flag you need access  to elite explosive bigbodied midfield talent normally taken in top 5, and then it takes 6 or 7 seasons for those players to reach their peak. And Sammy is impatient. And likely a bit angry at Clarko. 

Can they find an Alan Bond and use the cap space luckily created by retirements of Patton & Scully unwinding 2 bad contracts to absorb most of contract to essentially buy a draft pick.

Port a chance for a mid as Hinkley needs a flag but their interests best served by adding to their young talent to add to their list build. But Hinkley is desperate. (16)

Tigers a chance for mid or Gunston. (Tight Cap) (7, 15, 26)

 Freo a chance for a mid but should 28/29 yo + B grade mids  be a priority for their early picks? (6,8,19,22)

Giants obvious choice is Gunston after a searching medical to check his back injury but what draft capital would you give up for a 30 year old coming off a season missed with a back injury? Tight cap. (2CFCLOL, 13,....)

Edited October 9, 2021 by demoniac

[DubDee 25,671]

Cannot believe Mitchell has been calling coaches trying to offload his leaders and best players! I get the feeling he will go down swinging. Culture killer moves

last minute deals for O’Meara likely I’d say. Clubs will wait until the hawks are more desperate

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

39 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Giants obvious choice is Gunston after a searching medical to check his back injury but what draft capital would you give up for a 30 year old coming off a season missed with a back injury? Tight cap. (2CFCLOL, 13,....)

Hard to put a value on him....Was Best and Fairest 2020, missed 2021....You would really want to know that he is on top of his back issues and would be able to play to a high level still.  Have a feeling Hawthorn would want a 1st rounder for him on past deeds.

[GCDee 3,199]

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