So...what do we need to achieve during this trade & draft period?

[Go Dees!! 108]

I'm obviously a VERY happy Dees supporter - as we all are. No longer is my favourite part of the footy season the trade and draft period. However, we need to keep evolving as a footy team and a footy club. So, what do we need to achieve in this off season?

[hemingway 7,633]

For God sake we have just won the Flag after a lifetime. 

Enjoy the moment, it may never come again. 

Try and calm the mind. 

[old dee 23,998]

9 hours ago, hemingway said:

For God sake we have just won the Flag after a lifetime. 

Enjoy the moment, it may never come again. 

Try and calm the mind. 

Hi Ernest yes I cannot think of anything else at present and don't want to. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,675]

13 hours ago, Go Dees!! said:

I'm obviously a VERY happy Dees supporter - as we all are. No longer is my favourite part of the footy season the trade and draft period. However, we need to keep evolving as a footy team and a footy club. So, what do we need to achieve in this off season?

A team needs 3 'new' players to keep going forward.  Obviously Hunt and Tomlinson come to mind.  Perhaps another tall?

Our drafting seems to be successful with picks under 40 so hopefully we can do some bundling to achieve that.

[bush demon 2,162]

Will be v interesting to watch 'young turks' Petty and Tomlinson competing for spots with Lever and May over next couple of years.

[Little Goffy 14,750]

I'd argue our most urgent need is another key forward prospect.

I think I posted somewhere else that I'm quite pleased to see several respectable 'Hibberd' types on the draft projections between 15-25. I think moving up the board that far is a realistic goal and being able to secure a disciplined medium-sized defender is an opportunity we should grab.

That would likely leave us with only very late picks after that, and I can see them being used on a collection of tall kids with good attitudes who can be given a few years to develop. Some won't progress, some will. For the first time that I can recall, we have a brief moment of luxury where we can give them a little time to mature.

That all points to a pretty quiet trade period unless some bonus opportunity comes up.

[BAMF 4,433]

17 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

I'd argue our most urgent need is another key forward prospect.

I think I posted somewhere else that I'm quite pleased to see several respectable 'Hibberd' types on the draft projections between 15-25. I think moving up the board that far is a realistic goal and being able to secure a disciplined medium-sized defender is an opportunity we should grab.

That would likely leave us with only very late picks after that, and I can see them being used on a collection of tall kids with good attitudes who can be given a few years to develop. Some won't progress, some will. For the first time that I can recall, we have a brief moment of luxury where we can give them a little time to mature.

That all points to a pretty quiet trade period unless some bonus opportunity comes up.

Yep. Perfect time for us to pick up some tall prospects with later picks. We could use them too. A ruck and a KPF.

Taj Woewodin has come at a good time for us too as a versatile midfielder type.

Casey are going to be light on for inside midfielders too. Wouldn't be surprised if we picked one up.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Priority 1 is to ensure we have the cap space to retain our young core. 

priority 2 is to look for opportunities to improve our on field mix. 

the pursuit of Cerra i think is an indication we've got some wiggle room if the right opportunity arose. 

[durango 2,023]

I would think that Jones Jetta and Van Den Berg were on good money so there must be at lest $750,000 they could use.

[deebug 1,754]

3 minutes ago, durango said:

I would think that Jones Jetta and Van Den Berg were on good money so there must be at lest $750,000 they could use.

Nice bit of money for the coin jar😉

[picket fence 17,968]

I wonder if a high profile player in another club comes out and says he wants to play at Melbourne 2022 to blow the trading period apart!

[Go Dees!! 108]

21 hours ago, hemingway said:

For God sake we have just won the Flag after a lifetime. 

Enjoy the moment, it may never come again. 

Try and calm the mind. 

Don't worry....I'm definitely enjoying the moment, but if you think Jason Taylor and his crew aren't already hard at work working on next year's list you are crazy!

We need to keep evolving and already have 6 list spots to fill.

I'd definitely like to see some young ruckmen & KPF's come onboard. Give them some time to develop like we did with Gawny.

[Ben Reyment 21]

A young ruckman to develop at Casey

Small rugged defender

pacey and skillful forward/mids

we have the blueprint, just need to keep things going

[Maldonboy38 6,406]

Key forward.

Young, tall, skinny ruckman who will not be ready until 2024.

Our wings are such a vital part of our gameplan. Rosman and Baker look possible, but another aerobic gut runner would be nice.

[deelusions from afar 1,870]

6 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

the pursuit of Cerra i think is an indication we've got some wiggle room if the right opportunity arose. 

I'm  intrigued as to how this works.  My understanding is that teams have to pay most of the salary cap.  So if we prepare a warchest for Cerra and miss out on him, do we say to other players "are you interested in being paid $X early to help us bring in a big fish / keep the list together in future years?"  Does that happen?

[hemingway 7,633]

3 hours ago, Go Dees!! said:

Don't worry....I'm definitely enjoying the moment, but if you think Jason Taylor and his crew aren't already hard at work working on next year's list you are crazy!

We need to keep evolving and already have 6 list spots to fill.

I'd definitely like to see some young ruckmen & KPF's come onboard. Give them some time to develop like we did with Gawny.

Sure it’s  about improving our list. That’s how we won the flag. 

However, I just want to enjoy the moment. Where we have come from and what we have just done. We have GF highlights that will probably never be surpassed both from a team and individual end. How you can think about the draft , a week after our greatest triumph has me beat.

For me, this has been a week of enjoyment and reflection.

When you been waiting as long as I have and beginning to think you will never see another flag, this past week has been momentous.

I guess it’s just an age thing!

Lets enjoy the moment without looking to move on immediately seeking new stories and information that take away from the significance of what we have just witnessed. 

 

[Go Dees!! 108]

9 hours ago, hemingway said:

Sure it’s  about improving our list. That’s how we won the flag. 

However, I just want to enjoy the moment. Where we have come from and what we have just done. We have GF highlights that will probably never be surpassed both from a team and individual end. How you can think about the draft , a week after our greatest triumph has me beat.

For me, this has been a week of enjoyment and reflection.

When you been waiting as long as I have and beginning to think you will never see another flag, this past week has been momentous.

I guess it’s just an age thing!

Lets enjoy the moment without looking to move on immediately seeking new stories and information that take away from the significance of what we have just witnessed. 

 

I don't disagree.....we are probably in a similar age bracket as I also had reached the stage of thinking that I would never see another Melbourne Premiership. 

Now, having tasted that sweet nectar again, all I want is another taste! I'm hooked!

If a Melbourne Dynasty is to happen one of the ingredients for that success will probably come from this batch of recruits.

So, whilst I'm definitely reliving this Grand Final by having the replay on high rotation, I'm also looking for another taste of that sweet nectar of ultimate success.

Let's enjoy this long awaited Premiership......but let's do it again!

[MadAsHell 4,217]

13 hours ago, Go Dees!! said:

We need to keep evolving and already have 6 list spots to fill.

Incorrect. We actually only have 3 list spots to fill at the moment. Don't forget Declase and Turner came onto the list as extras to replace long term injuries and Bradtke was a Category B rookie which is also an extra. So with his departure and 5 others, it only leaves us with 3 spots for now. For what it's worth though I expect at least 1 or 2 more spots to open up.

IMO, now that we missed out on Cerra we'll just look to improve our draft hand and go from there. I expect us to recruit Moniz-Wakefield and Woewodin and maybe another midfielder or forward/ruck depending on how many spots open up between now and the draft.

Whatever money we had for Cerra we can keep up our sleeves either for next off season or the Oliver and Jackson contracts. Only other recruiting for me would be someone like Reece Conca as a part time assistant who can play at Casey to help the young midfield there in the absence of Jones, Vandenberg and Jetta.

[Jibroni 5,035]

12 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Key forward.

Young, tall, skinny ruckman who will not be ready until 2024.

Our wings are such a vital part of our gameplan. Rosman and Baker look possible, but another aerobic gut runner would be nice.

Mac Andrew ticks this box but at present may not have enough points to secure him.

Either way I would not be against trading our future first for a 1st Rounder this year, if there are any interested parties.

[Mach5 4,768]

We have the luxury now of picking for best talent available, and then as the draft progresses, doing our best to maintain list balance.

I’m sure Taylor & Lamb will have a couple of smokeys for us.

[BAMF 4,433]

1 minute ago, Jibroni said:

Mac Andrew ticks this box but at present may not have enough points to secure him.

Either way I would not be against trading our future first for a 1st Rounder this year, if there are any interested parties.

The rules have changed regarding the NGA players. If another club bids on Mac Andrew in the first 20 picks we are unable to match the bid.

Speculation is that he will be a top 10 pick.

So it won't matter if we have points to match or not.

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

18 hours ago, durango said:

I would think that Jones Jetta and Van Den Berg were on good money so there must be at lest $750,000 they could use.

Keeping this in the forward contracts for Trac, Clarry, Jacko, Riv, Kozzy, Petty, Sparrow, Fritsch etc 

[Mickey 4,756]

Hopefully we get in on this action. Move some picks back to next year, given we don't have any pressing needs that need to be covered this year

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/02/report-how-pies-plan-to-land-picks-for-daicos-bid/

"Ryan believes the Magpies will look to hand over future picks for rivals’ second and third rounders this season to cover for Daicos."

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,283]

I think this year is as good a year as any to have no first and only 3 mid range picks. We have no pressing need in any part of the ground. We have young elite talent as shown in Rising star nominations and the % of premiership team under 21. 2 years of fractured visibility of this years draftees and we have the best recruiter in the business to spot raw talent and now the development team and time to nurture it. Need to be mindful we may want use up to 2 of those on Woey Jnr and Moniz-Wakefield but suggest we will create a touch more room somehow. Being they are both flank/wing can see us going tall if the right prospect is there with any other  picks. 

[furious d 472]

2 hours ago, Mickey said:

Hopefully we get in on this action. Move some picks back to next year, given we don't have any pressing needs that need to be covered this year

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/02/report-how-pies-plan-to-land-picks-for-daicos-bid/

"Ryan believes the Magpies will look to hand over future picks for rivals’ second and third rounders this season to cover for Daicos."

Wouldn't mind getting our hands on the pies future second, I'd trade all our picks (33 45 & 57, 1092pts) for their future 2nd and pick 48 (302pts). If they finish lower than 13th we're ahead and it should give them enough to get their stuff done. We use 48 and pick up Woey jr and AM_W cheap, maybe upgrade a rookie or two. We could end up with picks 18 and 19 next year to load up on kids with exposed form.😉