On 30/10/2023 at 04:03, Katrina Dee Fan said:

There's certainly suggestions they're key reasons why Chloe Molloy, Steph Chiocci, and Jamie Lambert left their AFLW program.  Their entire team went to the football department last year after DeGropey's Bali incident and basically stated that unless the club does something to address apparently misogyny in the club, they'll have a serious problem retaining several of their women players.  Those three walked.  I can't say I blame them.

Was Collingwood's "Do Better" report solely about indigenous issues or did it address other matters such as misogyny?

The girls will be better off than the mens's side as the squad is much smaller, I think 30 in total.

Nice bonus to their pay. I wonder if it counts towards tax or its classed as a windfall as with any other prize competition?

 

  On 30/10/2023 at 04:47, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Was Collingwood's "Do Better" report solely about indigenous issues or did it address other matters such as misogyny?

Just Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples related issues.

Their report on misogyny is still being worked on.

Epic report - current draft has 3,232 chapters. 

  On 28/10/2023 at 23:54, Salems Lot said:

250k divided equally between 44 AFLM players = $5,681.00 ea

250k divided equally between 31 AFLW players = $8,064.00 ea

500k to the club but effects the soft-cap.

A good breakdown I reckon

Assume the recently departed players still get paid, a nice little exit bonus for them. 

  On 29/10/2023 at 23:19, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

How does it affect the soft cap? I thought the soft cap related to expenditure, not revenue. Do you mean that depending on where we spend it, it could affect the soft cap? If so, surely there are ways to make use of it without the soft cap being affected?

The original article I read said that it did affect the soft cap but the article today is on the afl.com.au side said that it is exempt from it.  Huzzah!

 

  On 30/10/2023 at 07:11, Demonland said:

 

Best club in the AFL, but we have no culture.

  On 30/10/2023 at 07:15, Redleg said:

Best club in the AFL, but we have no culture.

SO MUCH UPSIDE!!!

  On 30/10/2023 at 01:22, deejammin' said:

DEE fence is bang on, the silence is deafening. MFC wins the trophy and 1mil for being the most consistent club across AFL and AFLW and radio silence from AFL.com. Instead an article about how important top ten picks are (duh!). MFC has been the benchmark across all three competitions AFL, AFLW, VFL for three years now. We’ve won 3 premierships (and counting with AFLW23 still to play) 4 GFs, finished in the top 4 8 times, made 9 final series and easily been the best club over this period. 
 

But what are they reporting on? A smear campaign against our coach and his family from 2020-21.

What are our real issues?Joel Smith is an [censored] who did coke in season. Clayton Oliver is immature and has some issues, Stephen May is confident and has a big mouth, leading to one stupid fight with his teammates and a statement about CFC that annoyed them (despite being true!). That’s it.
 

Compare that to CFC:

Magpies deny players involvement in elicit video (off-season 2023): https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/magpies-deny-players-involved-in-explicit-viral-video-and-warn-fans-of-criminal-offence/news-story/1527df5feed42453ba45d130f819cb56

Ginnivan at the races pre GF: https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/30/magpies-defend-ginnivan-over-trip-to-the-races-before-grand-final-everyone-just-relax-and-chill/amp/

Jack Crisps alleged sexting exchange with an underage girl 2023: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-crisps-next-move-revealed-after-afl-completes-investigation-into-inappropriate-video-c-10314050.amp

Jack Ginnivan allegedly does ketamine with players preaseason 2023: https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101994502

Jordan Degoey’s litany of mysognistic misdemeanours: https://amp.9news.com.au/article/384aa7b0-45be-4488-8f9c-d9c1f2e1191f

Quaynor and Ginnivan rate women’s appearance in online video: https://www.foxsports.com.au/web-stories/free/fox-sports/jack-ginnivan-and-isaac-quaynor-apologise-for-tiktok-video

Steele Sidebottom goes out drunk during COVID restrictions: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8477947/amp/AFL-star-Steele-Sidebottom-drunk-does-not-remember-breaking-COVID-19-rules.html

The “do better report”: https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/01/collingwood-afl-clubs-culture-of-structural-racism-condemned-in-scathing-report

Wow what an incredible “culture” led to this years flag, it’s almost like winning premierships is possible even with a team of misbehaving DH’s as long as they are good at football. But no, it’s probably Darcy Moore’s ability to deliver a year 10 level debate speech and Craig MacRae and the Daicos’s being nice guys, I’m sure that’s an impeccable “culcha”. 

It’s nice to confirm the bias against us in the AFL media, which was largely under the surface until now. They hate us and will never praise us as a “big club” (within 10k and 16k of Hawthorn and Essendon with a higher average home attendance but never acknowledge that). Time for us to start calling them out often and loudly, or stop listening to and watching their rubbish as Robbo, Warner at the Hun are out for us as are Damo, Cornes and others at AFL.com. Stuff em.

My unwavering sentiments are precisely the same as yours. You pointed out so many things there that mean so much to teams that seem to go out of their way to be clean and yet the process and the system prevents them.

You know i think that is what the problem is. We are the Club that other teams aspire to be like and that annoys them.

  On 30/10/2023 at 03:57, deejammin' said:

It’s appalling isn’t it. Almost everything CFC on that list is a serious crime, the club cleans up for them. There’s a patterns there of seriously disgusting attitudes and behaviour to women also. 

They really need to do a lot Better don’t they? 

  On 30/10/2023 at 04:47, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Was Collingwood's "Do Better" report solely about indigenous issues or did it address other matters such as misogyny?

My post wasn't in reference to the "Do Better" report.  But to answer your question, it was solely on the allegations of racism (not just indigenous)

  On 30/10/2023 at 05:35, binman said:

Just Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples related issues.

Their report on misogyny is still being worked on.

Epic report - current draft has 3,232 chapters. 

My understanding is that it was on race in general, given Heretia Lumumba is not indigenous, but did lodge a complaint about racism.

  On 30/10/2023 at 22:32, Katrina Dee Fan said:

My understanding is that it was on race in general, given Heretia Lumumba is not indigenous, but did lodge a complaint about racism.

Yep, I think you're right KDF. 

1 million in prize money for the McClelland trophy compared to the profits of merchandise sales after winning the premiership, more members and potentially more sponsors. Obviously we’ll take it but for me it doesn’t take away from the disappointment of this years final series. This year was a massive fail from the men’s team, even with our injuries we should have beaten the Pies easily in week 1.

Edited October 30, 20231 yr by Bombay Airconditioning

  On 30/10/2023 at 23:30, Bombay Airconditioning said:

1 million in prize money for the McClelland trophy compared to the profits of merchandise sales after winning the premiership, more members and potentially more sponsors. Obviously we’ll take it but for me it doesn’t take away from the disappointment of this years final series. This year was a massive fail from the men’s team, even with our injuries we should have beaten the Pies easily in week 1.

Come on, BA. Do we really need to be reminded yet again of our finals losses? And in this thread? Let’s celebrate the winning of the McClelland by our outstanding Club, especially in this dedicated thread. 

  On 30/10/2023 at 23:30, Bombay Airconditioning said:

1 million in prize money for the McClelland trophy compared to the profits of merchandise sales after winning the premiership, more members and potentially more sponsors. Obviously we’ll take it but for me it doesn’t take away from the disappointment of this years final series. This year was a massive fail from the men’s team, even with our injuries we should have beaten the Pies easily in week 1.

Truly BA, is the air conditioning working at your place?

  On 31/10/2023 at 02:49, WalkingCivilWar said:

Come on, BA. Do we really need to be reminded yet again of our finals losses? And in this thread? Let’s celebrate the winning of the McClelland by our outstanding Club, especially in this dedicated thread. 

It’s a recognition of both teams for the season excluding finals… unfortunately other supporters in particular pies ones will always reference the straight sets exit and water down this.. they continue to call our premiership the covid cup , yet our dominance across the 3 finals & playing on neutral grounds & zero home ground advantage is passed over vs them who didn’t leave Melbourne sill for the last 5 games of the season, one can only imagine if the lions win the flag and had the same fixture 

  On 10/11/2023 at 22:49, Demonsone said:

It’s a recognition of both teams for the season excluding finals… unfortunately other supporters in particular pies ones will always reference the straight sets exit and water down this.. they continue to call our premiership the covid cup , yet our dominance across the 3 finals & playing on neutral grounds & zero home ground advantage is passed over vs them who didn’t leave Melbourne sill for the last 5 games of the season, one can only imagine if the lions win the flag and had the same fixture 

By your very own reasoning we don’t need to discuss finals when talking about the McClelland. And you’re right, we don’t, which is why I don’t think this thread is a place to bring up the men’s finals. In particular, bemoaning the losses of such. 

  On 10/11/2023 at 22:49, Demonsone said:

they continue to call our premiership the covid cup

I've never heard a single comment like that, nor any denigration of our premiership from any supporters of other clubs at any time.  If anything, they were blown away at just how dominant we were in that 2021 finals series.

 

 

Delighted to add the $1m to the kitty but there's something hollow about this given the way both teams went out in straight sets.

  On 27/11/2023 at 09:34, BDA said:

Delighted to add the $1m to the kitty but there's something hollow about this given the way both teams went out in straight sets.

Better to go out in straight sets with a million dollars than in straight sets without any money 

  On 27/11/2023 at 10:16, Jaded No More said:

Better to go out in straight sets with a million dollars than in straight sets without any money 

Yes, as Shakespeare said ‘it’s better to have loved and lost, and then get the bag [censored]! PEACE’

 

They just don’t write like that anymore…

  On 27/11/2023 at 09:02, Demonland said:

 

Why is a club that’s bombed out in straight sets in both teams accepting the award with both our captains