PF: Melbourne vs Geelong

[Pates 9,660]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Guthrie doesn't quite agree:  "They are pretty strong comments. I'm surprised Isaac does feel that way. In the end it was a quarter of footy that cost us," Guthrie said.  "Personally for me reflecting on the game, those kind of comments, I don't know if I necessarily agree with.  "They're quality players and they're going to give us a tough night.  

If we’d lost most people would’ve said it was a 5-10min period that cost us. The whole other time the game was largely on our terms. 

But hey if they want to believe that and go in with that attitude fine with me. 

[sue 9,135]

19 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Stop being a wally.

If he has mail great - I am happy he's posted it.

Thats why we have these forums. If he's trolling he'll be found out.

As it turns out he's on the money. Very happy he didnt name the player, Its finals week and its not his position to do that,

 

If it's not his position to name the player, why is it his position to name the line affected or say anything?   I don't see much difference.  Since it's finals week I reckon the less and later we give any info to the opponent the better.  

If it's going to be public within a very short time anyway, then sure, spread despair on the forum if you like. But be sure you are giving nothing away.

He has gallantly agreed he won't do it again.   No wally there either.

[Sean Balor 49]

12 hours ago, Sean Balor said:

Joel Smith. Cheers. Thanks.

What do I win? 😅

[Macca 17,032]

13 hours ago, Dannyz said:

Whenever you have mail, you need to be cautious of certain factors like the players extended family not being told by the player themself. 

Also whether the club want the opposition to know as yet. 

Its one of the defenders who is out and we will leave it at that. 

Good info, well explained

Thanks & kudos

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

Good info, well explained

Thanks & kudos

If someone not connected to the club or players hears whispers then it’s OK to post this kind of escaped intelligence  but if someone has access to privileged information because of some relationship to the club or players then best to shut up and avoid hinting. It’s like a breach of trust.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

2 hours ago, binman said:

I was watching our round 23 game against the cats Jimmy. 

 

 

Got me.. 

[Macca 17,032]

28 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

If someone not connected to the club or players hears whispers then it’s OK to post this kind of escaped intelligence  but if someone has access to privileged information because of some relationship to the club or players then best to shut up and avoid hinting. It’s like a breach of trust.

The player in question wasn't named

What's the issue?

[old55 23,687]

23 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I am not saying that he will be playing. I am analysing why he is training with our top squad. This is something that I would like to know, particularly at the training level, to attempt to understand what he is bringing to our preparation (so far, twice in the past week). Alternatively, it may be a decoy to unwelcome observers from Geelong FC or some other purpose, and why? As i stated, inquisitive I do remain whilst also speculative and reasoned in a circumstance where someone on DL might have a more accurate knowledge than my humble reasonings.

 

Do you speak like this in person?

[titan_uranus 25,043]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Watching the replay T Mac did very little and he must be under consideration. Logically the replacement is Melksham or for those who are contrarian thinkers perhaps Weid or Mitch Brown (if fit).

Cannot forget that Goodwin dropped Fritsch for our last PF after a win.

Regardless of your views on TMac's form, he's not getting dropped for M Brown or Weideman.

Neither of them have had VFL matches to press a case to replace a player for poor form. Even if you consider that playing TMac is a risk due to perceived poor form, it's a significantly bigger risk to swap him out for a prelim for someone who has either played one game, and that was back in Round 5, or a player who has played 5 games, the last of which was three months ago in Round 13.

If we want the tall, TMac has the spot. If we want a mid, Melksham had the spot in Rounds 21 and 22 and could get that spot back.

Yes, Goodwin dropped Fritsch for Smith in 2018. That was, in my view, a bad call and I doubt he'll be repeating it again with anything as left-field as that.

[TRIGON 4,790]

26 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

Do you speak like this in person?

 @Deemania since 56? Indubiously! 

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

It is so imperative we beat the Cats on Friday just to peg this man down a notch. He’s complained all year, made ridiculous excuses for Geelong’s performances at every turn, and made disrespectful comments such as his team didn’t care about winning because there was no home final on offer after they lost to us.

Now he’s come out and bagged Larkins after scoffing at Stewart‘s extremely unlikely return from a serious lisfranc injury which at times has forced players into early retirement. Please for the good of the game, Dees - put this man back in his box.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675042/maybe-hes-an-entertainer-geelong-coach-chris-scott-on-dr-peter-larkins-tom-stewart-call

[Lucifers Hero 40,334]

23 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

It is so imperative we beat the Cats on Friday just to peg this man down a notch. He’s complained all year, made ridiculous excuses for Geelong’s performances at every turn, and made disrespectful comments such as his team didn’t care about winning because there was no home final on offer after they lost to us.

Now he’s come out and bagged Larkins after scoffing at Stewart‘s extremely unlikely return from a serious lisfranc injury which at times has forced players into early retirement. Please for the good of the game, Dees - put this man back in his box.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675042/maybe-hes-an-entertainer-geelong-coach-chris-scott-on-dr-peter-larkins-tom-stewart-call

Silly of Scott to get so wound up about someone's opinion - just ignore it or take a 'straight bat' approach. 

The pressure is getting to him.  

[Cards13 9,117]

49 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

It is so imperative we beat the Cats on Friday just to peg this man down a notch. He’s complained all year, made ridiculous excuses for Geelong’s performances at every turn, and made disrespectful comments such as his team didn’t care about winning because there was no home final on offer after they lost to us.

Now he’s come out and bagged Larkins after scoffing at Stewart‘s extremely unlikely return from a serious lisfranc injury which at times has forced players into early retirement. Please for the good of the game, Dees - put this man back in his box.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675042/maybe-hes-an-entertainer-geelong-coach-chris-scott-on-dr-peter-larkins-tom-stewart-call

The funniest part if Scott has totally forgotten he is the ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!!! It's game Chris ya bell end.

[Superunknown 4,223]

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

 @Deemania since 56? Indubiously! 

Indubiously?

Indubitably I need to fetch the Thesaurus.

[spalding 1,128]

5 hours ago, CYB said:

Cameron is a supreme runner and is not a contest orientated forward - that is Hawkins's job. He will look to work into the wings and flanks and out work his opponent. Not saying Hibbered cannot play the role, but we need somebody  outside D50 to take the matchup because i dont think Hibberd can stay with him all day (if that is the matchup of course). 

I actually think Riv could possibly do this role. He is a great spoiler (long arms?). The danger is that Cameron drags him back to the goalsquare and is too strong in the body, but maybe if that happens he can hand over to Petty. They can't play all of Eva, Hawkings and Cameron in the goal square unless the centre breaks are like they were for 15 minutes in round 23.

[Young Blood 2,634]

Scott's 360 interview was interesting.

When asked about how he felt about the bye week being before the GF if they were to get in he responded by saying it would be great as Tom Stewart might have more of a chance to be fit for the game.

There's a number of things to take from this for me.

- Could simply be tactics getting in nice and early. If they were to make it through teams would have to consider Stewart playing and how they matchup/game plan against their most important player... As ridiculous as that sounds.

- Main and positive thing for us is that this is nearer the front of Scott's thinking when considering anything currently. Solidifies just how much they miss him as a player and how we must exploit this loss of their key weapon down back.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Forecast for Friday night still looks a little wet. Bit of a gamble with 4 talls.

[sue 9,135]

1 minute ago, CYB said:

Forecast for Friday night still looks a little wet. Bit of a gamble with 4 talls.

I have probably missed something, but why are people so sure of the Geelong line-up already?

[Demon17 5,202]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Silly of Scott to get so wound up about someone's opinion - just ignore it or take a 'straight bat' approach. 

The pressure is getting to him.  

The above comment might have been meant as a throw away line  but...

The pressure is huge on Scott and to a lesser degree some biggish names  - Gary Rohan I'm looking at you.

A geelong loss is not worth thinking about for them, the ramifications and headlines will be screaming about cats, Thompson handed him a Flag team etc., wasted year again.....

Its all true of course. 

He inherited a great team that has been underachieivng all decade, if flags are the objective as they say.

But hats off if they do win - it will be against all the odds .

 

[Cassiew 1,903]

5 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

I totally understand. It must be the same how the old South Melbourne supporters felt thinking the swans would never win another premiership.

Hopefully for your uncle (and all of us) Maxy does get to lift the cup on the 25th.

I just have the feeling that this is a one in a lifetime chance. If we don’t take it, it could be another lifetime again. We may never get this chance again and we’re close. So close. I have never had this feeling as a Melbourne supporter before and I’m no spring chicken.

More food for thought, Max Gawn is 3 years younger than Jones. How long has he got left? Time will catch up

Edited September 8, 2021 by Cassiew

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32 minutes ago, sue said:

I have probably missed something, but why are people so sure of the Geelong line-up already?

Scott’s hubris.

 

He has already lauded the 5 touch Esava and has lapped up the Genius With Staying Power effluent the footy media has showered him with since they went with Hawkins/Cameron/Rohan/Ratagolea.

[sue 9,135]

2 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Scott’s hubris.

 

He has already lauded the 5 touch Esava and has lapped up the Genius With Staying Power effluent the footy media has showered him with since they went with Hawkins/Cameron/Rohan/Ratagolea.

So maybe he is just bluffing and all this speculation as to how to handle 4 talls may be pointless, however entertaining for D'landers.  Presumably our match committee is considering all possibilities.

[binman 43,726]

Given it is a Friday night game, am i right to assume teams get announced tonight?

[dazzledavey36 55,316]

Just now, binman said:

Given it is a Friday night game, am i right to assume teams get announced tonight?

No Thursday. 

[dazzledavey36 55,316]

Fair from Isaac Smith.

 

Edited September 8, 2021 by dazzledavey36