Sacred terminology

[tiers 2,840]

Why, oh why, does the media insist on using the ugly terminology to describe our position.

We are "top of the ladder" as it has been since the dawn of the footy era. We are not "top of the table", an ugly term purloined from overseas soccer.

If we finish top of the ladder that is enough to define our success. Again that's how it has been since the dawn of footy. That ugly expression "minor premiership" has crept in from rugby and has no place in our great game.

Curse those journos and commentators who use these terms in the hope of sounding fancy and "sophisticated". They don't, they sound like presumptuous prats and bores.

Call me an old fuddy duddy but some things we should hold sacred. Our great game and its traditional terminology are sacred and must be preserved.

Go dees.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

I hear that it’s meaningful for you @tiers - I’m not sure many others are so vigilant about language as you are. Language evolves - 100 years ago - ‘ladder’ didn’t mean what you currently interpret it to mean and hold dear to your heart. 😘 

[DubDee 25,902]

If we finish top, we were the best and most consistent team all year.

Doesn’t mean nothing to me

[DEE fence 5,018]

Hat Trick vs Threepeat is another example 

[Cyclops 511]

15 minutes ago, tiers said:

Why, oh why, does the media insist on using the ugly terminology to describe our position.

We are "top of the ladder" as it has been since the dawn of the footy era. We are not "top of the table", an ugly term purloined from overseas soccer.

If we finish top of the ladder that is enough to define our success. Again that's how it has been since the dawn of footy. That ugly expression "minor premiership" has crept in from rugby and has no place in our great game.

Curse those journos and commentators who use these terms in the hope of sounding fancy and "sophisticated". They don't, they sound like presumptuous prats and bores.

Call me an old fuddy duddy but some things we should hold sacred. Our great game and its traditional terminology are sacred and must be preserved.

Go dees.

My feelings exactly but I blame the American influences.

Since when was a player banned instead suspended. When did we start have 'shots at goal ' instead of kicks for goal?  Since when am I a fan instead of a supporter or barracker?  When did our defenders start playing in 'defense' instead of in our defence? Why is our centreline now our midfield?

Why does play start in the center instead of the centre?

The most offensive one I heard this year is to start the game with a "kick off" or was it "tip off".

[Ethan Tremblay 30,872]

“Shot on goal” is another one that grinds my gears.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,872]

36 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

I hear that it’s meaningful for you @tiers - I’m not sure many others are so vigilant about language as you are. Language evolves - 100 years ago - ‘ladder’ didn’t mean what you currently interpret it to mean and hold dear to your heart. 😘 

Not a bad point. When the game started it was called a ‘catch’. As there were no independent umpires, the player who caught the footy would yell ‘mark’ and point to where the opposition player had to stand (the ‘mark’). 

Edited August 18, 2021 by Ethan Trembley

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,370]

I get annoyed when people say banner. It's correct name is a run through. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Could be on my own here, I get peeved when an ump 50 metres away from the play pays a free and the commentators say it was paid by the non-officiating umpire. They all officiate to me, it was the out of zone umpire that paid the free.

[Supermercado 2,797]

Should go back to the late 1800s when forwards were referred to as 'kickists'. Also more of people playing in the 'pivot' please.

[DeeSpencer 25,718]

I just hope everyone enjoyed their wildcard weekend last week.

[tiers 2,840]

1 hour ago, Supermercado said:

Should go back to the late 1800s when forwards were referred to as 'kickists'. Also more of people playing in the 'pivot' please.

Pivot was an earlier term for centreman before we had "midfielders". At least the change in terminology was not, so far as I am aware, an introduced term from another continent. It was home grown Similarly with mark. It is the pompous commentators who grate the most. Norman Banks, Doug Heywood, Tony Charlton, Harry Beitzel or Mike Williamson never needed to show off.

As for non-officiating. If he/she pays a free kick, and it counts, then he/she was definitely officiating.

 

[faultydet 7,594]

Ah for the days when a bloke would gently slap the other chaps face with a white glove instead of shoving his chest while saying "come on, I'll have ya!"

Modern commenters are the worst. Constantly attempting to leave their imprint on the game with absolute garbage like "the fat side" or "front and square"

Jfc.

 

 

 

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I don’t like “field kicking.”

[Spirit of '87 333]

16 hours ago, Ethan Trembley said:

“Shot on goal” is another one that grinds my gears.

And players don’t seem to kick the ball in that goal kicking process anymore according to today’s commentators: “he hit it well”, “he struck it well”… 

[ProperDee 1,698]

De-fence 🤬

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

The motoring term “going up up a gear”really irritates me. Incorrectly used when a team increases intensity and pressure. In motoring terms the raw power to build acceleration to enable “go up a gear” is applied earlier at lower gears. Dropping down a gear when just cruising should be the correct term where engine revs are increased to give more power and acceleration. Going up a gear is effectively going into cruising mode. More applicable when reaching a comfortable lead and the game already in the bag.

Edited August 19, 2021 by John Crow Batty

[Webber 10,470]

3 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Also more of people playing in the 'pivot' please

Not to be confused with Geelong of course, who were ‘The Pivotonians” before becoming The Cats. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,872]

What position is a ‘striker’? I’ve heard a few commentators and media people refer to players as one of them. 

[gs77 4,252]

4 minutes ago, Ethan Trembley said:

What position is a ‘striker’? I’ve heard a few commentators and media people refer to players as one of them. 

My gears are being ground savagely by the use of "quarterback" by some commentators in recent years. 

[roy11 3,856]

2 hours ago, tiers said:

Pivot was an earlier term for centreman before we had "midfielders".

Soccer still loves the 'pivot', single-pivot (one dm) or a double-pivot (two deep midfielders) etc. 

Guess the way AFL is now played may mean 'pivot' does not return to the commentator's Lexicon/Vocabulary

 

[Webber 10,470]

15 minutes ago, Ethan Trembley said:

What position is a ‘striker’? I’ve heard a few commentators and media people refer to players as one of them. 

Don’t forget ‘sweeper’. Heard both Salem and Lever referred to as such this year. 

[Demonstone 22,578]

1 minute ago, Webber said:

Don’t forget ‘sweeper’. Heard both Salem and Lever referred to as such this year. 

It would certainly apply to Tim Broomhead.

[Vagg 2,439]

(Not a footy term, but I reckon I can get away with it, given our great game is played on cricket grounds, and was first played to keep the cricketers fit in the off-season.)  Anyway, that wretched term  "Batter" for the cricketer holding the bat gets my goat!  Batter is what you put on fish!  The guy in the middle with the bat in hand is the BATSMAN!!  (Yeah, yeah, PC police, beat yourselves up with that one!  Couldn't give a rip!)

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37 minutes ago, Vagg said:

(Not a footy term, but I reckon I can get away with it, given our great game is played on cricket grounds, and was first played to keep the cricketers fit in the off-season.)  Anyway, that wretched term  "Batter" for the cricketer holding the bat gets my goat!  Batter is what you put on fish!  The guy in the middle with the bat in hand is the BATSMAN!!  (Yeah, yeah, PC police, beat yourselves up with that one!  Couldn't give a rip!)

I hate that, too! To a lesser degree I don’t  like “fielder” coz it was always “fieldsman” as far back as I can remember.