CASEY DEMONS: Rd 11 vs Essendon

[chook fowler 19,446]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Ah Uncle all holed up in the manor tonight, WITH REPASTE of Maids ingenuity and Cullinary Masterpieces!?

1 Entree Quail in Cointreu and orange sauce

2 Mains  Fillet Mignon ( Medium rare)

3 Sweets Crepes Suzette 

By the way how was the Giant Little??

Cheers PF

A very retro menu. I thought Bitters might be a molecular gastronomy man.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

6 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Pending rest of the game, it could be something like Brown and Jones/Melk in, Sparrow and Spargo/Kozzy out.

Kozzy needs a rest for a week, whilst Spargo contributes, he needs a rest as well. I am thinking Jones and Bowie as feeders to the forwards. Probably not a popular choice but worth a try if our forwards respond to what those two can do in range.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

6 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Jones would have to be close to inclusion off today's form...

Dunno who you drop tho

Right now, Kozzy and Spargo would benefit with a rest to watch how Jones' techniques work so well for so long. He may not have that pace these days but he plays hard, has unique evasion and is now kicking at targets, not bombing or holding up play for awarded frees.

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

12 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Kozzy needs a rest for a week, whilst Spargo contributes, he needs a rest as well. I am thinking Jones and Bowie as feeders to the forwards. Probably not a popular choice but worth a try if our forwards respond to what those two can do in range.

 

3 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Right now, Kozzy and Spargo would benefit with a rest to watch how Jones' techniques work so well for so long. He may not have that pace these days but he plays hard, has unique evasion and is now kicking at targets, not bombing or holding up play for awarded frees.

What do you mean benefit from a rest? They've just come off a bye with a week's rest already.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,220]

36 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

A very retro menu. I thought Bitters might be a molecular gastronomy man.

I'm a man of simple tastes chook.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 hour ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

He was OK at a sub standard levels

Nothing to chirp about ?

Yeah, not a great game, but more saying that his work below the knees and the way he played further up the ground was pretty good.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

3 hours ago, Pates said:

I’ve thought this for a while and thrown it up a couple of times. It’s a tricky call because in his last year on his contract it’s basically sending a message that he’s failing as a forward and he’s a magnet that gets thrown around now. But I do think playing him as a defender would teach him a lot, I wish they’d tried it earlier to be honest. 

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How do you decide on the nomenclature Nev?  How do you differentiate between a "chief" and a "champ"?

His name is Chief.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

What do you mean benefit from a rest? They've just come off a bye with a week's rest already.

A little time at Casey, to re-hone skills and applications. Nothing more ...

[WERRIDEE 5,445]

35 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Right now, Kozzy and Spargo would benefit with a rest to watch how Jones' techniques work so well for so long. He may not have that pace these days but he plays hard, has unique evasion and is now kicking at targets, not bombing or holding up play for awarded frees.

Why would they need a rest they already had one a week ago stupid talk really. Jones will have to bide his time unfortunately even though he is in great form loved Bowey's game looks like a gun.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

48 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Kozzy needs a rest for a week, whilst Spargo contributes, he needs a rest as well. I am thinking Jones and Bowie as feeders to the forwards. Probably not a popular choice but worth a try if our forwards respond to what those two can do in range.

Jones is a must in for Sparrow IMV.  Bowie is still a little way off although this might be only two or three Casey games off if he can turn it on a little.  Kozzie & Spargo are both on the fringe and would need to improve from here.  At least one of them is in danger if the pressure comes from Casey options.  That would also depend on whether the VFL / Casey continue to play through Covid from here though.  If it doesn't i can't see either coming out unless injured.

[Fat Tony 5,220]

My take:

Jones was exceptional. Definitely the closest small to the AFL 22.

Ben Brown was good but I am still not convinced he would add to the side. Jackson and TMac are so much more mobile.

Weideman is badly out of form and had lost confidence in his goal kicking.

Bowey would be playing AFL at most clubs. Classy and quick.

Bailey Laurie will need to get a lot fitter to be an AFL player. Looked a bit overweight and lacked pace. 

[jnrmac 20,055]

5 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

I'm not against this but it's an important decision with a fair bit riding on it.

When selected, Brown has been poor and like you say, if they're going to select him, he needs a fair run of games but top 4 is on the line and our current lineup has been the most effective.

That said, with the way Essendon defended us (and the way we entered 50), we could have done with a stay at home tall to make some of the Bomber defenders accountable.

I would argue that Essendon are better than most at covering the ground and getting players into our front half to flood. Against most teams, dropping a pressure player for a tall would be unnecessary at best, detrimental at worst.

Quite an extraordinary thing to say really.

Brown has been serviceable.

And which current lineup are you referring to?

[chook fowler 19,446]

38 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I'm a man of simple tastes chook.

A hot dog gel with a FourNTwenty foam?

[picket fence 17,065]

Ok Ill say it, we will  NOT be in a position to win a flag without BB this year!!

[hardtack 10,516]

15 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

A hot dog gel with a FourNTwenty foam?

And a heaping helping of umami... never forget the umami!

[dworship 3,342]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Close picket. I prefer the Mignon a tad over medium. Little Giant was fine but I went to the cellar for a preferred choice tonight.

The Maid is being coquettish and wearing Essendon colours.

And you must oblige.

Edited June 27, 2021 by dworship

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Ok Ill say it, we will  NOT be in a position to win a flag without BB this year!!

I'll second that and go one further that we will struggle to make a PF (not to be confused with a Picket Fence!) if we don't.  However that also depends on him finding somewhere near his best form in a block of 3 to 4 games if he is given the chance.

Scoreboard pressure and marks inside 50, bringing ball to ground, forcing opp to place their best tall defender on him and our only genuine (accurate) goal kicking forward option (out to about 50 meters) should not be underestimated.

Taking the Opp's best tall defender will also see T-Mac getting the 2nd best defender where he often seems to blossom, benefiting the team as a whole. 

T-Mac playing higher and BB deep with occasional swap over also seems to be a decent pairing.  With others leading to the flanks this should open things up for the small crumbers to feed off a bit more often.

At the moment our structure and method forward of center is a big mess.  Add to that all forwards inability to kick accurately from more than about 35/40 meters.  Fix these forward issues and i think we can go all the way to a GF.  Ignore it and i think it will catch us out at the pointy end and we'll all be bemoaning "the season that might have been....again".

[Nasher 33,607]

Best and worst of Demonland all rolled up in one thread. Awesome.

Great to hear Vanders in amongst it. I’m a fan - I can’t see an avenue in to the side for this year now, especially given how many better players than him lined up along side him today, but I’d love to see him bang the door down. I’ve never seen a player who tackles to hurt the way he does when he’s going.

Sounds like Jones and BBB keeping their names in the mix. Perfect. 

[deelusions from afar 1,802]

28 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

My take:

Jones was exceptional. Definitely the closest small to the AFL 22.

Ben Brown was good but I am still not convinced he would add to the side. Jackson and TMac are so much more mobile.

Weideman is badly out of form and had lost confidence in his goal kicking.

Bowey would be playing AFL at most clubs. Classy and quick.

Bailey Laurie will need to get a lot fitter to be an AFL player. Looked a bit overweight and lacked pace. 

Bit harsh on Laurie - pretty sure it was his first game back after a broken jaw. Will be better for the run.

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

Brown and Jones will come under serious considerations next week. Jones was playing like a guy so desperate to come back into the team.

Today's game was so beneficial for guys like Vanders, Melksham, Bowey who will also come under selection notice in the coming weeks with a few hard sides coming up.

 

[old dee 23,782]

4 hours ago, Vagg said:

Might work.  My memory tells me Neita started as a defender, and moved forward out of necessity when Schwarta went down.  However, there are two notable blokes who both definitely started as forwards (with limited success), only to carve out terrific careers as defenders, by name of Steven Smith and Gary Hardeman.

100% correct on all counts.

[Elwood 3184 1,298]

17 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

Bit harsh on Laurie - pretty sure it was his first game back after a broken jaw. Will be better for the run.

It was a fractured eye socket and I believe his first game.

With Nathan Jones it was a pity the club didn’t test him out v Collingwood on the SCG where we would be better served by him on the smaller ground.

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[Return to Glory 8,412]

Only watched the first half. Rosman looked pretty good to me and, reading through the posts, guessing he played better in the second half. And for some reason, every time I see him I think of Earl Spalding.

I'd love to see how he'd go in the ones but I'm not sure where he'd fit and if they'd even look at him this year. Still, 194cm, roams up and down the ground and gets the footy. I'm assuming he's rubbish in front of goal.

My question: do they serve up egg and bacon rolls at Casey?

 

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Ok Ill say it, we will  NOT be in a position to win a flag without BB this year!!

Fritta would want to be pulling his finger out very soon otherwise a swap with BBB and maintaining our 3 pronged mosquito fleet spargs, ANB and Kosi may be on the cards.

Its the only way we can accommodate Tmac, Action and BBB in the same side.

We need to maintain the overall balance of our line up and i see this as a logical progressive step towards a greater forward marking presence.