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  On 31/05/2021 at 11:40, Hell Bent said:

 

Was at Metricon. Dominated the game and blew it.

Harley Bennell ran into an open goal and missed.  Weid missed a sitter  as well.  That was one we should have bolted in.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 07:50, TRIGON said:

    Thanks for that @bing181, got mine booked for Wednesday. Feeling far less anxious about it now.

    I still had a rough night, killer headache, hot sweats and the shivers, but was over it by the following afternoon. 

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      On 31/05/2021 at 12:02, bing181 said:

    I still had a rough night, killer headache, hot sweats and the shivers, but was over it by the following afternoon. 

    Sounds like the typical day after our games in 2020 ...

     

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    The Jono Brown comment was made. Then Garry said only if Melbourne ticked it off and we got a LARGE cheque we might consider it

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      On 31/05/2021 at 12:15, DubDee said:

    The Jono Brown comment was made. Then Garry said only if Melbourne ticked it off and we got a LARGE cheque we might consider it

    The ball is in our court i tend to agree with Garry with an overs offer north of the quoted figure of $700k, we hold the cards here.

    Make it worth while for the club to benefit big time, we are the big ticket item so we should make hay while the sun shines if the requirements are met.

    @binman makes some valid points with accommodation and the like, but the offer from Bris Lions has to be extraordinary to give up home ground advantage  for a prime time Friday Night game.

    Make no mistake this team in its current state of mind can take on anyone, anywhere, anytime, but it has to be on our terms, if not play it at the SCG or Giants Stadium.

    We are playing currently to consolidate a top 2 position, this choice shouldn't be taken lightly like previous decisions have in the past.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 12:15, DubDee said:

    The Jono Brown comment was made. Then Garry said only if Melbourne ticked it off and we got a LARGE cheque we might consider it

    And Healy agreed, like he'd heard it floated by Melbourne people...

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    If we played it at the Gabba (which I canā€™t see us doing) I would be telling the AFL they will cop a $2-3 million fine from the club if their umpires start making crowd decisions like they did in Adelaide.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 20:35, Marty said:

    If we played it at the Gabba (which I canā€™t see us doing) I would be telling the AFL they will cop a $2-3 million fine from the club if their umpires start making crowd decisions like they did in Adelaide.

    Oh yes I can imagine how Dill took that ultimatum

    insert ace Ventura well alrighty then gif

     

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    Take the cash, play infront of a packed gabba, great experience playing a top 4 team in a big game away from home. 

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    We are about to lose a ton of money from no NT then QB game. This after losing a huge amount last year. Would be a bloody tough thing to decide to do, but I have empathy to why they would

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    Win the flag and the money looks after itself

     

    top 2 position vital. No free rides for opposition 

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      On 31/05/2021 at 20:35, Marty said:

    If we played it at the Gabba (which I canā€™t see us doing) I would be telling the AFL they will cop a $2-3 million fine from the club if their umpires start making crowd decisions like they did in Adelaide.

    Dill taking the ultimatum:

    I Bet Ace Ventura GIF

     

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      On 31/05/2021 at 21:05, whelan45 said:

    We are about to lose a ton of money from no NT then QB game. This after losing a huge amount last year. Would be a bloody tough thing to decide to do, but I have empathy to why they would

    tough situation fr the club isnā€™t it. we are one of the clubs most vulnerable financially and taking a hit in the NT and QB games is going to really put heat on us. being such a good side in a year where your actually making less on crowds is also going to hurt us. ultimately the good of the club has to prevail in this choice. 

    gifting brisbane a home game in a 1 v 3 may be wrong, and feels v unpalatable ( not to mention unfair) but iā€™d go with it as well. 

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    Some thoughts.

    Being a good corporate citizen whilst minding the bottom line and protecting our chances of top 2 (this should be the #1 goal as it begets so much advantage next year - gate takings, membership, blockbuster TV FTA) and conditioning players to play in front of big (and potentially hostile crowds).

    1. Offer to take (subject to QLD Health) the Lions game to Gabba on the proviso we get the gate AND the AFL read the umpires the riot act. One was not amused by the malarkey in Adelaide.

    2. And/OR (independent of above) Offer to take the Pies game (subject to NT Health) to Alice (quarantine in Noosa/etc post Gabba, go there now) and split the 700k with Collingwood If and only If (IFF)

    3. We get QBW as a home game next year (or split the gate with Collingwood) OR Anzac Eve (again) as compo for the loss of QBW 21 gate. Or another similar blockbuster as home ground - Cats, Tigers, Bombers, Pies, Dogs and no ridiculous heading to GMHBA in 2021. Sick of that thanks.

    Collingwood lost last years QBW gate - so we need to be fair minded here. Everyone (Vic clubs in particular) is in a similar situation except Eagles and the Adelaide and QLD clubs. They need to be fair minded also.

    Otherwise, request another switch to Alice - perhaps the Port or Weagles or Geelong (!) games. These somewhat de-risk the home ground advantage they get but they will want compo for losing the home ground advantage and gate.

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    There's an integrity issue which outweights the financial considerations. If you allow Melbourne to sell it's game to Brisbane where will it end? Will North start selling games or Gold Coast. Selling a game to NT and other developing areas is one thing but selling to a direct rival is something else entirely. It can't and won't be allowed.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 22:50, Better days ahead said:

    There's an integrity issue which outweights the financial considerations. If you allow Melbourne to sell it's game to Brisbane where will it end? Will North start selling games or Gold Coast. Selling a game to NT and other developing areas is one thing but selling to a direct rival is something else entirely. It can't and won't be allowed.

    That's a good point - you don't want to set a precedent and let (powerful) clubs (especially) hold the fixture over a barrel.

    I'd then favour requesting a near Vic fixture swap - Collingwood seems the best candidate. Negotiate with Collingwood - split the 700k with them then split the gate for QBW with them next year?

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      On 31/05/2021 at 22:40, Superunknown said:

    Some thoughts.

    Being a good corporate citizen whilst minding the bottom line and protecting our chances of top 2 (this should be the #1 goal as it begets so much advantage next year - gate takings, membership, blockbuster TV FTA) and conditioning players to play in front of big (and potentially hostile crowds).

    1. Offer to take (subject to QLD Health) the Lions game to Gabba on the proviso we get the gate AND the AFL read the umpires the riot act. One was not amused by the malarkey in Adelaide.

    2. And/OR (independent of above) Offer to take the Pies game (subject to NT Health) to Alice (quarantine in Noosa/etc post Gabba, go there now) and split the 700k with Collingwood If and only If (IFF)

    3. We get QBW as a home game next year (or split the gate with Collingwood) OR Anzac Eve (again) as compo for the loss of QBW 21 gate. Or another similar blockbuster as home ground - Cats, Tigers, Bombers, Pies, Dogs and no ridiculous heading to GMHBA in 2021. Sick of that thanks.

    Collingwood lost last years QBW gate - so we need to be fair minded here. Everyone (Vic clubs in particular) is in a similar situation except Eagles and the Adelaide and QLD clubs. They need to be fair minded also.

    Otherwise, request another switch to Alice - perhaps the Port or Weagles or Geelong (!) games. These somewhat de-risk the home ground advantage they get but they will want compo for losing the home ground advantage and gate.

    Iā€™m certain we lost out on QB as the home team last year, Pies were the home team in 2019.

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    We have a history of selling home games to Brisbane. We literally used to do that.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 23:04, Dee Zephyr said:

    Iā€™m certain we lost out on QB as the home team last year, Pies were the home team in 2019.

    Cool cool cool - whichever way around it was. The fixture shows it as our home game this year, implying them next year = our lost gate this year and they get it next year. I think there is space to negotiate with the Pies on getting to Alice and splitting it.

    The Age Real Footy Podcast made a good point - firstly they thought it was 400k, not 700k and Caroline Wilson made the good point that the MFC ought not worry about this - keep the premiership in mind (this means getting a top 2 IMV) and then letting everything that flows from that benefit the bottom line next year. Big games with big gates, blockbuster TV slots, memberships.

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      On 31/05/2021 at 22:50, Better days ahead said:

    There's an integrity issue which outweights the financial considerations. If you allow Melbourne to sell it's game to Brisbane where will it end? Will North start selling games or Gold Coast. Selling a game to NT and other developing areas is one thing but selling to a direct rival is something else entirely. It can't and won't be allowed.

    Why?

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    The AFL really need to make a call on this game today, at the very least rule it out categorically, as people will start travelling in from communities tomorrow and Thursday, an expensive exercise for families.

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