CHANGES: Rd 02 vs St. Kilda

[Forest Demon 4,681]

This could go either way. Everything is on the table, from no changes to Goody bringing back all his favourites in Viney, Melksham and Vanders.

If it were me, it would be Viney in for Sparrow most likely, and that’s it.

[DeePressed 114]

Gee i'm glad some on here aren't on the selection committee 

I urge some to re-watch the game.

Worst performance was the midfield, Coaches specifically. Stoppage work was very disorganised.

Ins and outs apart from Viney are quite irrelevant given the personnel on hand.

 

[Jaded No More 68,966]

1 hour ago, Action Jackson said:

Only change I can see this week is Viney in for Jones barring an unexpected injury.

But as people said Viney, Hibbo and Melksham are all underdone and may need another full game in the VFL before being picked.

Unless Jones gets injured or has a total stinker, I think he will retain his spot so we can get him to 300 games. And I’m not mad about it. I think Jones’ ball use going inside 50 is pretty good and he is still contributing to the team.  
Let’s get him to 300 games that he so richly deserves. 

[Docs Demons 1,792]

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Spargo had a goal, 3 goal assists and 5 score involvements. (Also had 5 tackles btw)

Bizarre comment.

Yes Lord he did perform those team things however as a small forward I would like him to also contribute on the scoreboard to the tune of 1-2 goals a game

[Demon3 2,541]

If the FD are serious, they wont play Jones on a fast deck against a very fast side. He was servicable, but he should be the one that goes out.

No way would i drop Hunt.

Viney for Jones.

[RodGrinter14 19]

Viney for Sparrow/Jones.

Torn on who goes out as I feel we need to persist with Sparrow and give him a run of games. I also think Jones did some good things and seemed to move more freely than he did last year and would be a little stiff to be dropped. Need to get Viney in the team if fit though. 

Talk of dropping Jetta after his performance on the weekend is off the mark. His one on one contest work was great. Whilst Hunt and Harmes weren't at there best I think they need an extended run in their new positions as they both have a lot to add to the backline and midfield respectively if they settle in over the coming weeks. 

[poita 3,902]

I can't understand the love for Jetta here. It is embarrassing watching him trail in ten metres behind his man. A decent small forward in a decent team would have kicked at least five goals on him on the weekend. He was cooked at the end of 2018. 

I don't know what the answer is given our critical lack of quality small defenders, but either Higgins or Butler will have a field day against him.

Hunt and Sparrow would be the others on edge - Viney has to come in if fit and probably Hibberd as well.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Harmes will be out with injury.

(For a fair while too probably)

 

Edited March 23, 2021 by Lord Nev

[Superunknown 4,217]

1 hour ago, poita said:

I can't understand the love for Jetta here. It is embarrassing watching him trail in ten metres behind his man. A decent small forward in a decent team would have kicked at least five goals on him on the weekend. He was cooked at the end of 2018. 

I don't know what the answer is given our critical lack of quality small defenders, but either Higgins or Butler will have a field day against him.

Hunt and Sparrow would be the others on edge - Viney has to come in if fit and probably Hibberd as well.

I watched the game and one thing that stood out was Nev chasing a Freo player into the goalsquare and stop chasing/stopped dead.

[58er 6,461]

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Spargo had a goal, 3 goal assists and 5 score involvements. (Also had 5 tackles btw)

Bizarre comment.

STINGA  that's ok Spargs  can kickem from 20 m in as long as you keep your comments to less than 10 words ok??  

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

16 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Harmes will be out with injury.

 

Care to elaborate?

Description of the Injury or maybe your source

[Demongirl35 1,056]

We need speed against the saints

Jones and Jetta won’t keep up.

Rather Chandler and Bedford in 

[58er 6,461]

4 hours ago, ManDee said:

Did you read this before posting? 

No sorry apologise MD

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Harmes will be out with injury.

(For a fair while too probably)

 

 

If your mail is right bad luck for Harmesy, but for the team, it will be a blessing in disguise.  More time on the ball for Angus and more midfield time for Jordon and Sparrow.

[Dr.D 1,771]

harmes, brayshaw, viney, sparrow, jones, Jordon, Vandenberg. We can't carry too many of these guys with the game being so quick. 

Out: Sparrow, Jackson.
In: Viney, Petty

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

what's the injury to harmes?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

23 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Care to elaborate?

Description of the Injury or maybe your source

 

20 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

If your mail is right bad luck for Harmesy, but for the team, it will be a blessing in disguise.  More time on the ball for Angus and more midfield time for Jordon and Sparrow.

 

9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

what's the injury to harmes?

Second hand info passed on, but good source. Copped a wrist injury during the Freo game and has had to have surgery, likely out for 6 weeks or so. Also copped a nose injury as well so did well to just play out the game.

Definitely changes my perspective on his performance somewhat.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

If Hibberd is ready, he should replace Jetta. Admittedly, Jetta played his best game in about two years, but we shouldn't play both Hibberd and Jetta in the same side and at this stage in their careers, Hibberd is ahead of Jetta. Jetta also played better than Hunt, but we'll need pace to contain the St Kilda small forwards and Jetta has nothing to offer there. 

If Viney is ready, he should come in for Chandler although not as the sub. That might be where Sparrow ends up.

If Melksham is ready, he comes in for Jones.

I'm quite comfortable with none of Viney, Hibberd and Melksham playing. I would, however, not keep Chandler as the sub. Either play him from the get-go or leave him out of the team.

Edited March 23, 2021 by La Dee-vina Comedia
typo

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

Jetta for the first time in a while did not look old and slow espcially in a one on one. Must stay. 

Out: Sparrow 

In: Viney (only if he is 110% ready) 

Don't want Viney to be rushed back only to miss 6 games at seasons end with foot soreness. 

others like hunt, rivers and jones get benefit of the doubt in my mind. 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

. I would, however, not keep Chandler as the sub. Either play him from the get-go or leave him out of the team.

Zero chance hes the sub again.  I doubt any player would ever be sub 2 weeks in a  row especially a kid who needs to be playing for his development.

[old55 23,625]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/568520/secrets-to-success-every-club-s-cbas-kick-ins-for-r1

St.Kilda's midfield vs GWS: Steele, Clark, Gresham, Bytel, Ross, Sinclair, Higgins

Quite frankly Freo's is superior: Fyfe, Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong, Mundy

Also Howard, their KPB takes the kick-ins (yes I know May takes ours) - I think this should be exploitable given the new rules.  KPF can either get outside 50 to create the turn-over mark, or get back in behind to receive a turnover kick-in when Howard follows through on the kick-in.

[DeeSpencer 25,723]

That’s bad news about Harmes if true. I’d have moved him to the wing for the Brad Hill job and then Viney in.

Do we take a risk and give James Jordon a run with job on Hill? Lacks the speed but will run all day. Or do we trust our system to hold up and just rotate the wingers - including Langdon who knows his game well?

The Saints counter attack really quickly from half back and hit the goal square. That’s there 2 main ingredients to success that we have to be planning for. 

[Cards13 9,117]

We don't need foot speed, we need to be better by hand and foot hitting targets moving forward. If we turn it over like we did at stages on the weekend then all the foot speed in the world will do sweet f all. 

Clean things up a bit and we are right in the game.

[Deemania since 56 6,658]

4 hours ago, Action Jackson said:

Only change I can see this week is Viney in for Jones barring an unexpected injury.

But as people said Viney, Hibbo and Melksham are all underdone and may need another full game in the VFL before being picked.

I'd reckon that they are all underdone, as well, sadly. If we are brave, we could do with a real, unexpected surprise or two coming in against the Saints. My nobbles tell me it should be Daw and MBrown - the little 'uns must step up all over the ground and some of the previous keys should occupy and rotate the gaps such as a wing (Tomlinson) and a back pocket (Daw) and an outside mid (Kozzie), with MBrown at FFwd and Petty CHB.

Nobody will like it, but it might work surprisingly well. It creates a real (not shared) responsibility at all levels of the ground with the existing framework. It may also unsettle a pretty powerful, conventional Saints line-up.

 

 

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

38 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I'd reckon that they are all underdone, as well, sadly. If we are brave, we could do with a real, unexpected surprise or two coming in against the Saints. My nobbles tell me it should be Daw and MBrown - the little 'uns must step up all over the ground and some of the previous keys should occupy and rotate the gaps such as a wing (Tomlinson) and a back pocket (Daw) and an outside mid (Kozzie), with MBrown at FFwd and Petty CHB.

Nobody will like it, but it might work surprisingly well. It creates a real (not shared) responsibility at all levels of the ground with the existing framework. It may also unsettle a pretty powerful, conventional Saints line-up.

 

 

 

What I don't like is that you've suggested playing M Brown, Daw and Petty but have not identified who they should replace.