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Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?

(18 times seven selections).

17 – Brisbane, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Richmond
15 – West Coast, St Kilda
9 – Western Bulldogs
8 – Collingwood
4 – Greater Western Sydney
2 – Gold Coast 
1 – Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Melbourne

Which other club is most likely to reach the Grand Final?

(Four captains picked eventual premier Richmond in 2020).

7 – Richmond
5 – Brisbane 
3 – Port Adelaide
2 – Geelong 
1 – West Coast 

Which player from another club do you think will win the 2021 Brownlow Medal?

(Four captains correctly nominated Lachie Neale in 2020).

6 – Marcus Bontempelli
3 – Patrick Cripps
3 – Nat Fyfe
2 – Lachie Neale
1 – Dustin Martin
1 – Ollie Wines
1 – Jaeger O'Meara
1 – Jack Macrae

Which player from another club do you think will win the 2021 Coleman Medal?

(No captain nominated eventual Coleman medallist Tom Hawkins in 2020).

8 – Tom Hawkins
4 – Charlie Dixon
2 – Jeremy Cameron
2 – Joe Daniher
1 – Tom Papley
1 – Lance Franklin

Which player from another club do you think will win the 2021 NAB AFL Rising Star?

(One captain nominated eventual Ron Evans medallist Caleb Serong in 2020).

13 – Matt Rowell
3 – Logan McDonald
1 – Tom Powell
1 – Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

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13 minutes ago, old dee said:

Looks fairly accurate to me. How is Brisbane so good and we are so poor?

certainly helps to trade in elite talent.

Neale arguably the best mid in the comp.

Cameron is the best small fwd in the comp and up there with the best forward, full stop. 

Daniher potentially will win a coleman this year

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2 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

O Meara and Wines to win the Brownlow, but no votes for Petracca.  These captains have a good sense of humour.

This is bizarre, no one in their right mind would believe this to eventuate.

 

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16 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

O Meara and Wines to win the Brownlow, but no votes for Petracca.  These captains have a good sense of humour.

 

12 minutes ago, BW511 said:

This is bizarre, no one in their right mind would believe this to eventuate.

 

Presumably Captains can't select their own teammates so this is even more bizarre.

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The joke is on the Melbourne supporters who constantly make excuses about our club. And make excuses when more critical and fed up supporters rightfully have their say. 

The happy-go-luckies love to call-out 'armchair experts' for voicing their concerns, even if it's after a practice game. There was nothing ruthless about how we played. A word that Goodwin has bandied around non-stop since he took over. 

Captains of each club have a say. And surely they would know best given they play against us...

We get one vote to make the 8. And it was probably Max who voted that.

We made a prelim two years ago. 

That says an unbelievable amount about where our club is right now. 

You can kiss this club's hopes goodbye if we don't make serious progress this year. 

 

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Key messages: 

1. we have no respect from other clubs. Nil. Only “one” other captain would rate us to make the finals and that’s probably as their last selection 

2- forward line firepower ... nil ... get Brown up and firing and we’d be dangerous imv 

3- youngsters ... nil ... (I think we will see Luke Jackson really boom in year 3-4) 

4- Gawn, Petracca and Oliver surely would be a chance for the Brownlow.  
Wines and omeara - these captains were surely having a laugh. 

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42 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Presumably Captains can't select their own teammates so this is even more bizarre.

That reminds me, didn't Gawn select Fritsch to win the Coleman last year?

Not sure if that 'cannot select own teammate' rule is that strict. 

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16 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

That reminds me, didn't Gawn select Fritsch to win the Coleman last year?

Not sure if that 'cannot select own teammate' rule is that strict. 

I guess I was hoping that that was the case because if Max selected us then none of the other Captains rate us and why would they.

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Every club knows you just have to keep at the game and eventually the Dees will relax and bingo the game is gone. I cannot remember the last time we put a side away. 

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2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Key messages: 

 

3- youngsters ... nil ... (I think we will see Luke Jackson really boom in year 3-4) 

 

We don't see Rivers as young anymore? I know he plays more mature than his years, but he is still a kid just starting his second year. Very promising.

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2 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The joke is on the Melbourne supporters who constantly make excuses about our club. And make excuses when more critical and fed up supporters rightfully have their say. 

The happy-go-luckies love to call-out 'armchair experts' for voicing their concerns, even if it's after a practice game. There was nothing ruthless about how we played. A word that Goodwin has bandied around non-stop since he took over. 

Captains of each club have a say. And surely they would know best given they play against us...

We get one vote to make the 8. And it was probably Max who voted that.

We made a prelim two years ago. 

That says an unbelievable amount about where our club is right now. 

You can kiss this club's hopes goodbye if we don't make serious progress this year. 

 

JG, I'd reckon you are correct about making serious progress this year - otherwise, the current senior coach and the club hierarchy can say a very timid 'goodbye' until they adopt an enriching plan for players, skills development, a suite of tactical/strategic alternatives that work, fitness maintenance and a player determination not seen since John Northey days.

 

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Hope everyone on our list looks very closely at this - its called peer assessment and the MFC are a big fat fail

Judged as likely to make the 8 as Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, Hawthorn and less likely than Gold Coast

No respect , no fear , the MFC are effectively considered to be making up the numbers - again !

Time to get some fire in the belly and fix this NOW

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2 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The joke is on the Melbourne supporters who constantly make excuses about our club. And make excuses when more critical and fed up supporters rightfully have their say. 

The happy-go-luckies love to call-out 'armchair experts' for voicing their concerns, even if it's after a practice game. There was nothing ruthless about how we played. A word that Goodwin has bandied around non-stop since he took over. 

Captains of each club have a say. And surely they would know best given they play against us...

We get one vote to make the 8. And it was probably Max who voted that.

We made a prelim two years ago. 

That says an unbelievable amount about where our club is right now. 

You can kiss this club's hopes goodbye if we don't make serious progress this year. 

 

Doesn't the wording of the question imply captain's can't vote their own team into the 8.  So we have at least 1 other captain onside.

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Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?

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47 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

We don't see Rivers as young anymore? I know he plays more mature than his years, but he is still a kid just starting his second year. Very promising.

Agree. Riv would have to be a lock in the team now for 2021. Had a great start to his career and good signs.  

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I get all the usual comments about the club from the usual suspects - yes we're crap etc etc, and since Monday afternoon Melbourne are in the media spotlight. I'm sure this has also rubbed off on the Captains and their selections, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't spend time thinking too much about it. I'm sure this is why (after one practice game with extremely limited opposition) that the Bont is now a raging brownlow favourite in the minds of the Captains.

What the next 2 weeks will show though, is whether there is MFC player determination to change the narrative. Have a decent win vs Freo and the media will go feast on someone else (I hope the Tigers or Dogs win by 10+goals!) - if we loose then watch out. I think 0-4 is on the cards, and the media will be feeding on our carcass. 


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1 hour ago, sue said:

Doesn't the wording of the question imply captain's can't vote their own team into the 8.  So we have at least 1 other captain onside.

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Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?

Yeh, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

Still, good to know you're picking up on that detail rather than the fact that we are simply not rated or respected by opposition Captains. In fact, Gold Coast are rated a higher chance. And we've been trying to build a ruthless, respected and great club for how long now?

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1 hour ago, JimmyGadson said:

Yeh, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

Still, good to know you're picking up on that detail rather than the fact that we are simply not rated or respected by opposition Captains. In fact, Gold Coast are rated a higher chance. And we've been trying to build a ruthless, respected and great club for how long now?

Half a century JG.

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If ever there was proof of how we're rated within the footy world this is it. These are the guys that play each other and we are not feared or rated at all. I hope the players use it to drive them further.

EDIT: in 2017 not one captain rated the Tigers to make the finals, so while it's an interesting indicator it's obviously not gospel.

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20 hours ago, Demonland said:

Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?

(18 times seven selections).

17 – Brisbane, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Richmond
15 – West Coast, St Kilda
9 – Western Bulldogs
8 – Collingwood
4 – Greater Western Sydney
2 – Gold Coast 
1 – Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Melbourne

In 2017 not one captain picked Richmond to make  the 8. So these predictions useless most of the time.

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Good.  The bath water tastes like cold fish soup.  Nothing to drink here.  No plaudits or posturing.  I hope this means the boys are clear- it all comes down to what you do on the park.

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Well that was pretty damming MFC. 

Hard Work creates Respect, over and over again. Not just a few weeks here and a few weeks there

this is my 50th year watching the Demons and not one of those years did we have Respect (Northey got close) but it didn’t happen 

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Take this with as big a grain of salt as any other predictions.
The AFL Captains predictions are usually as reliable as any others.

Every captain predicted us to make the 8 in 2019.
15 tipped Adelaide for the finals.
Every captain predicted GWS to make the 8 last year.
4 tipped Richmond to make the Grand Final, zero tipped Geelong.
 

It's a bit of theatre for the empty weekend before Round 1.

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