2 hours ago, 58er said:

Dean almost cruised around and was still getting used to AFL before his career was over.

Over the years the Dees have not had much luck with "elite forwards' Injury snd other reasons have shortened their career so much so this I believe almost more than any other is a genuine reason Why this flag drought continues.

Examples of the above are Schwartz  Jurrah Jackovich Charles Farmer Dean Stephen Smith (his Hamstrings were dodgy )  Hogan Pike Mark Jackson a skinny tall player who kicked 6 one day surname or first name was Glen I think can't remember his Complete  name) .Other fans could add but I are just remembering while typing this post.

Biggest single factor was Schwartz whose 3 knee recos killed his amazing agility and movement. I will go to my grave confident that given a free reign from injury David would have been just as good as Wayne Carey and 1998 and 2000 and other seasons may have turned out different!

BTW Schwartz played in the Reserves (or whatever they were called ) and showed his skill so much so that I said to my family at the time he would be our next CHF.  We know his story and still feel for him as he was virtually cut Down in his prime but bravely played on really only a shadow of that 1994 glimpse. 

Letssee what happens in the next 5 Years starting in 2021. 

glen swan

6 hours ago, The Stigga said:

I'm putting it out there...

He's the new Warren Dean.

 

Would that it were so ! Dean was an extraordinary kick.

8 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

The Cale Morton guns club.

always a big difference seeing the boys versus the men.  Time for the gym, lads!

 

Is it just me or does the mobile platform of the training gallery photos fail miserably for others trying view them?

Desktop seems the only way to fully appreciate them. 

4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Training Photo Gallery

Thanks for this Pickett

Trying to work out Bailey Laurie's number from pic 14 - definitely starts with a 1....

Anybody with better eyes than mine? 

6 hours ago, 58er said:

Dean almost cruised around and was still getting used to AFL before his career was over.

Over the years the Dees have not had much luck with "elite forwards' Injury snd other reasons have shortened their career so much so this I believe almost more than any other is a genuine reason Why this flag drought continues.

Examples of the above are Schwartz  Jurrah Jackovich Charles Farmer Dean Stephen Smith (his Hamstrings were dodgy )  Hogan Pike Mark Jackson a skinny tall player who kicked 6 one day surname or first name was Glen I think can't remember his Complete  name) .Other fans could add but I are just remembering while typing this post.

Biggest single factor was Schwartz whose 3 knee recos killed his amazing agility and movement. I will go to my grave confident that given a free reign from injury David would have been just as good as Wayne Carey and 1998 and 2000 and other seasons may have turned out different!

BTW Schwartz played in the Reserves (or whatever they were called ) and showed his skill so much so that I said to my family at the time he would be our next CHF.  We know his story and still feel for him as he was virtually cut Down in his prime but bravely played on really only a shadow of that 1994 glimpse. 

Letssee what happens in the next 5 Years starting in 2021. 

Glen Swan was his name and kicked 8 goals against Geelong in 1973. Only played 13 games . In that same game Robert Flower made his debut.

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

Glen Swan was his name and kicked 8 goals against Geelong in 1973. Only played 13 games . In that same game Robert Flower made his debut.

Checked out the stats on that game and Diamond Jim kicked 6 goals as well

Wells had 45 possessions ... he could rack 'em up.  Genuine topliner

Lost 10 of our last 11 games after hitting the half way mark at 6 & 5 ... yep, the use of the word 'ugh' goes way back

11 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i refuse to believe fraser rosman isn't actually 27 years old 

Perhaps even Ben Hilfenhaus

7 hours ago, Paulo said:

Garry lyon

I kind of remember him having numerous injuries, he had a crook back that he either lost games to or played injured.

12 hours ago, Demonland said:

I seem to recall posting about these footys at training in the past. 

perhaps it didn’t work for us. 

maybe with the boss at training we’ll learn how to use them properly. 

Would not have needed these if we recruited blokes who can kick.! Actually think its a great initiative

17 hours ago, The Stigga said:

I'm putting it out there...

He's the new Warren Dean.

 

Dean really added some X factor to us at the time. He was a tough match up.

15 hours ago, 58er said:

Dean almost cruised around and was still getting used to AFL before his career was over.

Over the years the Dees have not had much luck with "elite forwards' Injury snd other reasons have shortened their career so much so this I believe almost more than any other is a genuine reason Why this flag drought continues.

Examples of the above are Schwartz  Jurrah Jackovich Charles Farmer Dean Stephen Smith (his Hamstrings were dodgy )  Hogan Pike Mark Jackson a skinny tall player who kicked 6 one day surname or first name was Glen I think can't remember his Complete  name) .Other fans could add but I are just remembering while typing this post.

Biggest single factor was Schwartz whose 3 knee recos killed his amazing agility and movement. I will go to my grave confident that given a free reign from injury David would have been just as good as Wayne Carey and 1998 and 2000 and other seasons may have turned out different!

BTW Schwartz played in the Reserves (or whatever they were called ) and showed his skill so much so that I said to my family at the time he would be our next CHF.  We know his story and still feel for him as he was virtually cut Down in his prime but bravely played on really only a shadow of that 1994 glimpse. 

Letssee what happens in the next 5 Years starting in 2021. 

I would add Fidge to the list. I remember he kicked a bag on Silvani in a reserves final early days.

Just now, Half forward flank said:

I would add Fidge to the list. I remember he kicked a bag on Silvani in a reserves final early days.

And I will add who Dave Williams. He could have been special without injury. Remember he played against Carlton one day. memory? I suspected the oldish star Blue he played on did not get him a lot of respect. One a three times Premiership player and another a no name player. Williams led and took him on a merry dance. Kicked a few but a lot of points and scoring shots later, he had likely earned some respect. Memory is hazty but think he was either left out or played out of position in a major game later on.

17 hours ago, Damo said:

Thats a very big call IMV.

Warren came over from SA with Stretchy and Obber, I think. And if not for trying to patch holes at CHB and HBF could have been another wingman of the ages. But it was the time of, "just clock him" and Gary Ayres at about 20Kg heavier seemed to do do it regularly.

It was an era of seeing my favourite players Flower, Johnson and Dean who were all very light and ball players, get smashed by thug players responding to Jeans and Hafey. Still gives me the tom [censored]...

Wrong - Warren Dean was from Perth and came over the same year as Spalding and Todd Viney.

50 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Wrong - Warren Dean was from Perth and came over the same year as Spalding and Todd Viney.

I was an original demonland/demonology poster. I have only changed my handle once. It was to distinguish myself from another poster whom I had unfortunately been associated with. My name was Franky-31

In fact Dean, Spalding and Viney came to us in 1987.  Stretch came from SA in 1986 and Obst came over in 1990.

11 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

Glen Swan was his name and kicked 8 goals against Geelong in 1973. Only played 13 games . In that same game Robert Flower made his debut.

We must have been going through a phase of recruiting players with graceful names, perhaps assuming they would play that way.

 

[As an aside, I had a cousin who played in the amos and was invited to a trial day where prospective new recruits were looked at. It was the same day as Robert Flower. My cousin told me that Flower was so obviously suitable to be recruited that they only allowed him to train for ten minutes to ensure he didn't get injured. Everyone else had a full two hour session. My cousin didn't make it but enjoyed his 200+ games in the amos].

1 hour ago, Half forward flank said:

I would add Fidge to the list. I remember he kicked a bag on Silvani in a reserves final early days.

Was he forced out early? Or retired through injury prematurely that's who I have listed not players who had a long and largely uninterrupted career.

17 hours ago, Demonland said:

I seem to recall posting about these footys at training in the past. 

perhaps it didn’t work for us. 

maybe with the boss at training we’ll learn how to use them properly. 

They kept losing them ??

14 hours ago, McQueen said:

Is it just me or does the mobile platform of the training gallery photos fail miserably for others trying view them?

Desktop seems the only way to fully appreciate them. 

The most disappointing thing for me is that they contain so few photos... surely the official photographer would be shooting hundreds of images, yet they only come up with 16 worth uploading?? Meh!

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

[As an aside, I had a cousin who played in the amos and was invited to a trial day where prospective new recruits were looked at. It was the same day as Robert Flower. My cousin told me that Flower was so obviously suitable to be recruited that they only allowed him to train for ten minutes to ensure he didn't get injured. Everyone else had a full two hour session. My cousin didn't make it but enjoyed his 200+ games in the amos].

Interesting story - I recently watched an interview with the great Brett Lovett. He told a story about him being invited to train in pre season with Melbourne after Allan Jeans and Des Meagher had said he had no future at Hawthorn (because he couldn't run apparently - thank god they got that so so wrong) 

Anyway the interesting part was that he mentioned there were something like 80 guys running around - who were gradually cut down to a lucky few - he being one of them invited to stick around. Sounded like if you wanted to walk in off the street and have a kick there was no great drama - how things have changed

18 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Training Photo Gallery

They weren't kidding when they said Rosman had 'athletic attributes'.  He looks three pre-seasons ahead of time.

Looking back over some of the other recent galleries I'm going to abandon my skepticism about Jackson's body transformation. 

Also, less decisively, but I'm got a hint of optimism now about McDonald getting back to his mobile self.  Looks a bit lighter and leaner when he appears in some photos and ina  couple of training videos.  I hesitated for a moment on that call in one photo but then I realised he was next to Jake Lever.

57 minutes ago, 58er said:

Was he forced out early? Or retired through injury prematurely that's who I have listed not players who had a long and largely uninterrupted career.

My memory was a combination of attitude and poor developmentt by the Club but he could certainly play.

11 hours ago, Paulo said:

I kind of remember him having numerous injuries, he had a crook back that he either lost games to or played injured.

 

His 1996 and 1997 seasons were write offs due to the back problems... a real shame as he was at the peak of his powers having kicked 77 and 79 goals in 94/95.

 His comeback in 1998 in Round 2 against North was one of my favorite Demon games ever.  He kicked 40 goals that season and helped us into the prelim final.

I still believe that Gary Lyon is hugely underrated by the footy world.