WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - FRASER ROSMAN

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14 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Warning:  I've been a consistent track watcher for over 15 years and two of the most impressive PS trainers I've ever seen were Sam Blease and James Strauss.

I wish Rosman all the very best and will be thrilled if he is what we all want but like most I've not seen him play and I have no expectations - neither optimistic or pessimistic.

Too true.

I recall dropping into the first training session when Jimmy Toumpas came to the club. If memory serves the four new players were doing drills together and I reckon it was Terlich, Matt Jones and one other (maybe Georgiou?).

So Toumpas was super impressive, hitting every kick, clean hands, while the others were quite sloppy.

I thought “We’ve got one here!”...

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On 1/29/2021 at 5:44 PM, Dr.D said:

All good points. But Tom McDonald belongs nowhere other than the forward line. He is a terrible decision maker and can't execute under pressure. This has already been proven after years in the backline.

The decision making and pressure execution on a wing is very different to back and forward. Other than starting there and drifting forward a few times in 2019,  Toms ability on a wing is as known as Rosmans’ at AFL level.

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13 hours ago, monoccular said:

But he does share at lest a couple of characteristics with Big JC. 

 

Nobody has reported him walking on water ..... yet.

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10 hours ago, Lampers said:

 

Too true.

I recall dropping into the first training session when Jimmy Toumpas came to the club. If memory serves the four new players were doing drills together and I reckon it was Terlich, Matt Jones and one other (maybe Georgiou?).

So Toumpas was super impressive, hitting every kick, clean hands, while the others were quite sloppy.

I thought “We’ve got one here!”...

I'll back Rosman to make the grade he has so far given every reason to believe he may be the real thing!

Possibly Round 1 on the wing.

No outstanding competitor putting their hand up and please don't say Tmac.

He is needed up forward or down back (yesDrD)  If his current Pre season form continues depending upon availability or selection policy.

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18 minutes ago, 58er said:

I'll back Rosman to make the grade he has so far given every reason to believe he may be the real thing!

Possibly Round 1 on the wing.

No outstanding competitor putting their hand up and please don't say Tmac.

He is needed up forward or down back (yesDrD)  If his current Pre season form continues depending upon availability or selection policy.

Tmac

[58er 6,675]

8 minutes ago, bingers said:

Tmac

Funny Bingers haha !!!

[manny100 1,613]

Its a big call to select him round 1. He would have to go very well in the praccies. One thing i liked about him when i saw him in an intra at training was his persistent presenting.  Rarely kicked to him but he did not drop his head. Just kept presenting, persevering and wanted the ball. Good sign for a 1st year player.

Took a good mark.

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21 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Its a big call to select him round 1. He would have to go very well in the praccies. One thing i liked about him when i saw him in an intra at training was his persistent presenting.  Rarely kicked to him but he did not drop his head. Just kept presenting, persevering and wanted the ball. Good sign for a 1st year player.

Took a good mark.

Ok I'm calling it will be a Multiple B & F Winner , all Australian and 200 gamer....

Note I haven't added a premiership... Coz After all IT IS MFC!??

Lurve him already!!

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Needs to be nasty..

[The Jackson FIX 3,225]

I can’t see many Victorian draftees playing early footy next year.  None of them have played a game of competitive footy for 16ish months. Even if they look ‘good’ my gut says the trend will be to ease them into the grade, more so than prior years. On top of that, I think Fraser played even less footy than his peers 16 months back because he was school footy only, right? 
 

edit PLUS fewer competitive pre-season hitouts than ever before. There is no way they are throwing these guys into the fire rd1.

Edited January 31, 2021 by The Jackson 6

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On 1/29/2021 at 1:58 PM, rjay said:

Have thought the same 'delusions'...

The draft is a bit of a raffle but more so this draft because of the lack of exposed form.

Of course the missing year may have been the year he jumped up the rankings and would have gone top 10.

Bontempelli was ranked outside the top 10 as was Oliver and they both came home with a big run.

...maybe we got the steal of the draft. Some clubs will because of the circumstances.

Here's hoping we're that club.

Would love that to be the case.

 

We've all seen the cycle before  - a young kid having big expectations on them and when they don't live up to those expectations they become the new whipping boys for supporters.  Let him play first!

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23 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Would love that to be the case.

 

We've all seen the cycle before  - a young kid having big expectations on them and when they don't live up to those expectations they become the new whipping boys for supporters.  Let him play first!

Agreed...let him play first.

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2 hours ago, The Jackson 6 said:

I can’t see many Victorian draftees playing early footy next year.  None of them have played a game of competitive footy for 16ish months. Even if they look ‘good’ my gut says the trend will be to ease them into the grade, more so than prior years. On top of that, I think Fraser played even less footy than his peers 16 months back because he was school footy only, right? 
 

edit PLUS fewer competitive pre-season hitouts than ever before. There is no way they are throwing these guys into the fire rd1.

totally agree. unless they are tearing it apart why not start at Casey and get a few games under the belt. looks like we have just about a full list to choose from as well. 

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On 1/29/2021 at 9:44 PM, dieter said:

Nothing would be nicer than having Rozman running into instant success. Nobody would like this more than me.  However, in the way fate decrees and dictates,  please let us take and accept his journey as a one step at a time episode. Let's not burden him with our expectations, let's just allow whatever will be to be. He could be great, let's not Moz him.

Don't Moz the Ros.

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On 1/30/2021 at 8:10 AM, Baghdad Bob said:

Warning:  I've been a consistent track watcher for over 15 years and two of the most impressive PS trainers I've ever seen were Sam Blease and James Strauss.

I wish Rosman all the very best and will be thrilled if he is what we all want but like most I've not seen him play and I have no expectations - neither optimistic or pessimistic.

Daniel Nicholson was another who was electric on the track 

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On 1/30/2021 at 11:10 AM, Baghdad Bob said:

Warning:  I've been a consistent track watcher for over 15 years and two of the most impressive PS trainers I've ever seen were Sam Blease and James Strauss.

I wish Rosman all the very best and will be thrilled if he is what we all want but like most I've not seen him play and I have no expectations - neither optimistic or pessimistic.

I know the agenda behind the post but to suggest that James Strauss and Blease were the most impressive PS trainers you've ever seen suggests that you were just plucking out 2 names in order to antagonise. The main reason why Blease failed was because his tank was so bad that he couldn't play up the ground. 

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49 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

James Strauss and Blease were the most impressive PS trainers you've ever seen

Sorry, quite right, it's right to say they were very impressive PS trainers.

I wasn't posting to antagonise but I think most know that.

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On 1/31/2021 at 12:17 PM, dworship said:

Nobody has reported him walking on water ..... yet.

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7 hours ago, In Harmes Way said:

If anyone could walk on water it would be Ronald Dale.

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On 12/10/2020 at 7:42 PM, Ugottobekidding said:

Just getting the squad ready for when Goody gets the boot.

jeez this aged well lol

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On 9/24/2021 at 8:51 AM, Tracca said:

jeez this aged well lol

A week is a long time in footy. A year is even longer.

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Unfortunately players like Laurie and Rosman have endured 2 years where they have played little football and lots of training although it did not hurt Bowey premiership player with 7 AFL games of experience which is in my opinion a credit to Williams.

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On 9/26/2021 at 6:43 AM, Ugottobekidding said:

A week is a long time in footy. A year is even longer.

just goes to show you should never go too early..... would of robbed us of a flag

[Nascent 9,299]

Out of contract at the end of the year and nearly 2 years on he is, expectedly, very much a work in progress. We all know talls take time and he hasn't exactly had an ideal start to his career with covid interruptions to the ressies last year. With that in mind, given his height, marking ability and athletic traits I hope we keep him on for at least another year and see if he develops. Not sure has the footy IQ to play midfield/wing but should have the ability to play either end of the ground.

Given our current dearth of tall forward depth, I wonder if the best way to take advantage of his skillset is to be as high half forward lead up player?

[Deeoldfart 8,082]

From day one he was a ‘work in progress’. As you say Nascent, he hasn’t had an ideal start to his career, but in my view, he has definitely earned a contract extension.  Jason Taylor doesn’t get too any wrong, even with his ‘speccy’ picks.

Edited July 5, 2022 by Deeoldfart