Nathan Jones Locked in for 2021

[Binmans PA 26,302]

For me, this is almost a purely list profile decision and cultural. He has experience and despite it mostly being in losing teams, he may be able to provide a better half forward option than Melksham, if he lays tackles.

Let's wait and see.

[P-man 13,239]

I’ll be honest. I’m enjoying this so much more after a vast majority of Demonland was already showing him the door. Delicious.

l’ll be at his farewell game. Love you Jonesy ❤️ 

[John Crow Batty 8,286]

Tired of reading about culture and Jones all in the same sentence. Our culture has been poor for decades but completely pathetic ever since he’s been at the club. He’s done bugger all to improve it and if he is the heart and soul of the club then there is bugger all to it. Results speak loudly and he’s been the standard bearer for the crappiest culture in the competition. 

Edited October 29, 2020 by america de cali

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,503]

8 minutes ago, P-man said:

I’ll be honest. I’m enjoying this so much more after a vast majority of Demonland was already showing him the door. Delicious.

l’ll be at his farewell game. Love you Jonesy ❤️ 

I just love your optimism that we'll be able to attend games next year.

[one_demon 826]

18 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

The Jones haters can go get Fked.

 

To be fair,  just because you don't agree with the decision does not mean you hate him

Edited October 29, 2020 by one_demon

[Gator 16,910]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Perhaps because the club decided that he would be better value than his replacement who would be the last player selected in this year's compromised draft.  

Perhaps.

However, some gems have come from even the rookie draft.  Back yourself to get some new talent in the door.

[roy11 2,994]

In 2 minds about this - will make up my mind when squad numbers are confirmed and we see which other players are retained. 

As @titan_uranushas said it won't be on much coin (hopefully).

No Guarantee he'll get his 6 games next season either way.

 

[DeeZone 7,868]

I just hope that Jones"y gets to his 300th this year and provides a bit of grunt and leadership in the process, otherwise if he misses the mark I feel sure that he can bring a lot towards the development of our younger brigade.

Show them Nathan Jones............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,927]

Respect is what builds clubs.

I only see good things with this announcement.

[The Chazz 4,077]

What do we do in 2022 if Jones plays 5 games in 2021?

[Demonstone 19,424]

Go for back-to-back flags.

[Sir Why You Little 34,708]

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

Tired of reading about culture and Jones all in the same sentence. Our culture has been poor for decades but completely pathetic ever since he’s been at the club. He’s done bugger all to improve it and if he is the heart and soul of the club then there is bugger all to it. Results speak loudly and he’s been the standard bearer for the crappiest culture in the competition. 

That’s the way i see it. 

Playing 300 games is irrelevent 

Robert Flower played 272 and he is the greatest of all time

[Hogans Demons 41]

21 hours ago, Dr.D said:

what a stupid football club

A stupid football club?

Have a look back at how the club handled. Jnr McDonald (capt), Russell Robertson, Brad Green(capt), Cam Bruce, Jeff White.

 

All showed the door too early.

 

[John Crow Batty 8,286]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That’s the way i see it. 

Playing 300 games is irrelevent 

Robert Flower played 272 and he is the greatest of all time

And Flower retired as our leading goal kicker in our breakout 1987 season. 

[Winners at last 4,796]

4 hours ago, america de cali said:

And Flower retired as our leading goal kicker in our breakout 1987 season. 

RIP great man   ...    ❤️

[Demonland 65,976]

 

[Roost it far 6,239]

Think he should’ve retired and more new blood bought in. Glad we’re not getting Isaac Smith as well. However not disappointed with the decision as surely his leadership is useful 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,588]

7 hours ago, The Chazz said:

What do we do in 2022 if Jones plays 5 games in 2021?

Your question is somewhat academic Chazz.

 I see the scenario's like this:

1.  Jones snaps his leg off at the hip in pre-season and retires imeediatley;

2.  Jones plays his 300th game on Queens Birthday at an MCG with as many MFC supporters as the pandemic will allow;

3.  We win the flag with Jone on 299 and no one cares if we carry another veteran into 2022 or not.

 

We got Jordan Lewis to 300 games and then some.  No way Jones doesn't play 300 next year - take it to the bank.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,588]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

So in this Garry makes the point about list size changes due to COVID.  Has this been announced/confirmed by the AFL?  And if not when?

Clubs are making decisions now on who to sign up, who to trade for over the next few weeks to a month.  I would have thought that the time for this to have been confirmed would have been about Rd 12, not still be a topic of discussion now.  Unless I'm missing something.

[Pates 9,537]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Gary actually made another point that the FD cap is also being reduced and so perhaps he's been given this contract as a sort of player/assistant coach. As long as the club was absolutely straight with him that he is not in the best 22 and so games will not come easy for him we won't be any worse off that instead recruiting a player with pick 60+. I would expect that his salary would also have been reduced as well.

I think it's good that in amongst so much bad stuff happening that there was a little room for sentiment, and perhaps this is also a sign that lists will not be culled as much as we thought.

[Fork 'em 6,558]

6 hours ago, america de cali said:

And Flower retired as our leading goal kicker in our breakout 1987 season. 

Not to mention kicked 5 in the Elim includng a towering speccy and another 4 the next week in the Semi before Dippa cracked his shoulder in his last game the Prelim.

[John Crow Batty 8,286]

34 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Not to mention kicked 5 in the Elim includng a towering speccy and another 4 the next week in the Semi before Dippa cracked his shoulder in his last game the Prelim.

IIRC I believe he stayed on the field to the bitter end with his injury. In his final season Flower reinvented himself as an effective forward. Dipper was school mate of mine. A perfect gentleman in real life.

Edited October 29, 2020 by america de cali

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

On 10/28/2020 at 10:45 PM, whitito said:

I have to disagree. If we moved him on at the end of 2018 that would be a repeat of the McDonald situation.

its 2 years removed.

he is a great of the club but this leaves me perplexed.

he hasn’t had an impact on games fir a long time and he is simply passed it.

I will cheer him on of course but a hard decision was needed and the club again didn’t make it.

I’ve been supporting this club for a very long time now.

I won’t list all of the hard decisions it has made because, quite frankly, it’s too depressing.

Rest assured though, this club has a history of making hard decisions. Pity virtually all of them have been wrong.

Jones will add value to this player group next year. He’ll train hard, he’ll share his knowledge, and he’ll continue to bring leadership - much of which might very well be off-field.  But that still counts.

I genuinely hope Jones becomes a 300 gamer. I hope also Goodwin doesn’t gift any games to him.

IMO the club has shown maturity and class in extending Jones’ contract, maturity and class that (but for discrete periods, eg, the Roos years) it has generally lacked when it comes to these issues.

Hats off to Josh (again).

 

[Demon17 4,624]

On 10/28/2020 at 4:45 PM, george_on_the_outer said:

Yes....this is what Club culture is all about.  He will get games if he is good enough, if not we haven't shoved a leader out the door like we did with Junior.

Bad call by both Nathan and the Club. So we are paying for the stupid decsion regarding James McDonald a decade ago.

Best games this year were against the Crows and Pies. Both basket cases of teams at that time.

But then if someone offered me 250K a  year to run around in the secounds I'd take it.

But gee, life moves on and so should Nathan.

[The Chazz 4,077]

11 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Your question is somewhat academic Chazz.

 I see the scenario's like this:

1.  Jones snaps his leg off at the hip in pre-season and retires imeediatley;

2.  Jones plays his 300th game on Queens Birthday at an MCG with as many MFC supporters as the pandemic will allow;

3.  We win the flag with Jone on 299 and no one cares if we carry another veteran into 2022 or not.

 

We got Jordan Lewis to 300 games and then some.  No way Jones doesn't play 300 next year - take it to the bank.

Your bottom paragraph shows that you are letting sentiment cloud your judgement.  Lewis played his 300th in 2018 - the year that we made the preliminary final.  In his last season, 2019, he played 12 games for a team that finished 2nd last, and also spent a considerable amount of time in the reserves.  When our season was well and truly cooked, he played the last 8 games of the season.  He didn't play his first game of 2019 until Round 5 (arguably you could see our season was over as early as that).

Jones has 6 games to get to the 300 mark.  I feel that 2019 was his opportunity to get to 300 - he missed 9 games of the season, partially due to form, and also his body breaking down.

I would bet my balls on him retiring at the end of 2020 if he could've squeezed that extra 6 games this season.

For mine, he plays at Casey until he plays a solid block of games in top form, and can prove that his body can hold up.  If he gets in there because of that, then I'll be stoked to see him get to 300.  But if he gets to 300 in the type of form he has shown for most of the past 2 seasons, then it will mean we have another year of missed finals.  I'll see you at the bank... ?

Edited October 29, 2020 by The Chazz