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2 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Pick 65 is a steal if Hawks have got the cap space to pay him then fair play to them.

personally don't rate him highly - seems about right

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How do the hawks get away with pick 65 for him & mfc just can’t?  how do the doggies get Treloar & get 300k if his contract & we can’t ..  we miss finals again & only get 1 trade done..  understand we traded for earlier picks but not enough done

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30 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I am disappointed with that. Dees obviously think he is no good. I don't accept it is salary as we could move on others like Mitch Brown and give Phillips an extra year at a lower salary, but paid in 3 instalments, getting him more and with less tax. 

There is a lot that happens behind the scenes we dont' hear about. 

For example Hawks and Phillips could have been in discussion and Phillips told the Dees he wasn't interested.

One of the key flaws in the AFL FA system is the player has to choose the club, not the other way around.

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26 minutes ago, Sydee said:

personally don't rate him highly - seems about right

Looks like the dorks got Phillips for next to nothing and I suspect the Pies are picking part of his pay as the Hawks originally baulked at the $600k per year but late phone calls with the Pies got the deal done. Thought we should have been into Phillips knowing the pies were desperate. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

There is a lot that happens behind the scenes we dont' hear about. 

For example Hawks and Phillips could have been in discussion and Phillips told the Dees he wasn't interested.

One of the key flaws in the AFL FA system is the player has to choose the club, not the other way around.

Australian football players, among world sporting professionals, accept some of the lowest payments as a percentage of the games revenue. Part of the trade off is a player gets a chance to choose where you play. I personally dont consider that a flaw.  Sucks when its Philips, but its ok if its Brown. Swings and roundabouts.  

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1 hour ago, Jjrogan said:

Australian football players, among world sporting professionals, accept some of the lowest payments as a percentage of the games revenue. Part of the trade off is a player gets a chance to choose where you play. I personally dont consider that a flaw.  Sucks when its Philips, but its ok if its Brown. Swings and roundabouts.  

Low payments or not, the fact still stands they hold all of the barging power. The fact still remains they are well paid in relation to average joe, and fact is the AFL doesn't have the hitting power (flow of dollars) of major league's you're probably referring to.

Either way it's the AFLPA are the ones pushing for US style Free Agency rules (see quotes from AFLPA reps like Dangerfield and Pendlebury) and if that's what they want then things like public knowledge of salary and being traded against their will is also a big part of that.

Otherwise the goodwill lies with the clubs.

I don't buy the AFLPA and players argument,  if they f over the fans they will end up with nothing

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I am disappointed with that. Dees obviously think he is no good. I don't accept it is salary as we could move on others like Mitch Brown and give Phillips an extra year at a lower salary, but paid in 3 instalments, getting him more and with less tax. 

I'm not, yes he'd have been a good acquisition but we don't want to fall into the same trap as the Pies with contracts.

Tmac will be a year down on his contract next season and we'll need money in the cap for Clarrie and LJ

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1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

How do the hawks get away with pick 65 for him & mfc just can’t?  how do the doggies get Treloar & get 300k if his contract & we can’t ..  we miss finals again & only get 1 trade done..  understand we traded for earlier picks but not enough done

So did you come on to offer something or just be negative.

You can actually answer your own questions by reviewing other threads or going to the AFL site.

Let's be truthful you

rarely post when we win

have contributed little during trade period

won't acknowledge the excellent deal for Brown

would be the first to complain if we tied up $1.1million of our cap in Phillips and Treloar which meant we could not give Clarrie and Jackson what they wanted to extend.

Let's not even contemplate the Dogs gave up a first rounder for Treloar.

But hey any chance to have a baseless shot at the club and we know you're in the first dozen

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3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

You have no idea if we offered that, or if he would have taken it.

Correct.

Read my second line. "Dees obviously think he is no good."

He was apparently ruled out by us very early in trade period, as reported by a few in the media.

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2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I'm not, yes he'd have been a good acquisition but we don't want to fall into the same trap as the Pies with contracts.

Tmac will be a year down on his contract next season and we'll need money in the cap for Clarrie and LJ

I accept that, I just thought he would be a good fit for us and cost nothing. He went for 65.

I see him as better than anyone we have atm, to play the non Langdon wing. 

I also think a 3 year x $400k -$450k contract would have got him.

If Oscar is delisted and say Mitch Brown, that is his salary.

We will see how he goes the next couple of years.

With Jones, Jetta,  ANB,  VDB, Hibberd, Melksham possibly and others to go next year, we would have savings for Clarry etc.

Also having kept Tom, I would be fairly confident he would now agree to say a 3 year contract based on his 2 years owing and maybe $250k for the 3rd year, split equally each year, thereby saving more the next 2 years and probably getting a bit more for Tom with less Tax each year.

Then again, it's done and I could be wrong. I recall being wrong once about 20 years ago. It's late, time for bed. 

PS. Mahoney was great again and the Brown deal was sensational for us.

 

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On 11/12/2020 at 11:42 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Certainly I think we recognized the need for pace and fix the (opposite to Langdon) wing position with Isaac Smith the first option.  After that Phillips was considered an option. But his price is too high (Pies seemed to have overpaid for quite a few players) and we are now unlikely to be able to shift Tmcd. 

Summed it up. Phillips was the one that got away. Pick 65!! The bargain buy of the draft by the Hawks. 

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On 11/13/2020 at 11:27 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Summed it up. Phillips was the one that got away. Pick 65!! The bargain buy of the draft by the Hawks. 

We could have got him and salary cap wouldn't have been a issue . He preffered  Hawthorn  and didn't rate us I believe.

We would have done better than pick 65. 

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On 9/25/2020 at 12:49 AM, A F said:

Would prefer Merrett obviously, but Phillips will likely come much cheaper and add to our outside run. It'll give us more flexibility and hopefully defensive cover if we try to play the Geelong surrender centre clearance and slingshot game.

Phillips, Merrett, Donald Duck? I'd secure a wing spot opposite Langdon for Hunt with a close coaching eye from Yze; that is, if the FD and Coach still refuse to develop Tomlinson for what he offers. We'd also save around $400K or more with the talents that these two hold - for the wing. And then there is Baker, who could also be developed watchfully. That money mentioned above could provide some interesting savings, incentives (correctly and properly managed), and improved Member services for the Club.

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