Tom Phillips - Outside Skills and Speed

[dazzledavey36 48,704]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

I would be a bit disappointed if we don't find another avenue this trade period for some more speed and to potentially fill up a wing position. Unless of course money is tight and we are trying to throw everything we have to keep Oliver, in which case, I agree.

Get ready to be disappointed. After Mahoney said we only targeted Isaac Smith specifically, but didn't really have a back up option, I knew then we wouldn't be chasing any other options...

Bit perplexed to be honest.

[old dee 22,840]

7 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I know there are possible salary cap reasons,  but i just cant understand why teh pursuit of Phillips hasn't been stronger. Recently we have identified needs, Lever, May, Langdon and now Brown, but its not complete, and i know Phillips isn't Keith Grieg or Robbie, but neither is Langdon, but he knows how to play teh wing, is competent with ball in hand, attacking and would provide outlet kicks for us. like Langdon did. I think its terribly disappointing that the entire footy world can see he would be a great addition, yet the club seems not to have done a lot about it.

Just my Opinion.

I suggest no salary cap space.

[Jaded No More 57,770]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Get ready to be disappointed. After Mahoney said we only targeted Isaac Smith specifically, but didn't really have a back up option, I knew then we wouldn't be chasing any other options...

Bit perplexed to be honest.

Maybe we don't have cards to play here, and hence why we wanted Smith as he would have been a free get.

But with Collingwood reeking of desperation, we could potentially strike a bargain basement deal, which we may not have been aware of at the time when the comment re: Smith was made. 

I also don't know what sort of draft pick trades we are hoping to make on draft night. Remember  that so many clubs have academy players in play, so need points. We could potentially be better off holding onto picks and trading them for a better overall pick and get a player we have our eye on in the draft. 

[Demon trucker 1,737]

On 11/10/2020 at 5:25 PM, A F said:

I find it unbelievable that Phillips is on $600k. It must be an overestimate, because they can't be paying wingers $600k when they're paying Grundy, De Goey, Treloar, Elliot etc. It's really no wonder that they're trying to squeeze 3 guys out in the one off season just to re-sign De Goey. 

Their list and contract management has clearly been an utter disaster.

The old saying goes at Collingwood player are rated better then what they really are, or worse then they really are, just by the amount of fans they have making lots of noise. Just imagine paying Cox over $500000, total madness, the man had played about 3 good games in his life, just so happens 2 of them where in finals

[spirit of norm smith 12,886]

Certainly I think we recognized the need for pace and fix the (opposite to Langdon) wing position with Isaac Smith the first option.  After that Phillips was considered an option. But his price is too high (Pies seemed to have overpaid for quite a few players) and we are now unlikely to be able to shift Tmcd. 

[Demon3 2,541]

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

I suggest no salary cap space.

Yep it more than likely is, which is such a shame.

[Demon trucker 1,737]

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Certainly I think we recognized the need for pace and fix the (opposite to Langdon) wing position with Isaac Smith the first option.  After that Phillips was considered an option. But his price is too high (Pies seemed to have overpaid for quite a few players) and we are now unlikely to be able to shift Tmcd. 

You find Isaac Smith has lost a bit of pace he is 32 now, this season he would play 1 great game, then would not fire a shot for 4 weeks, he only got over 20 positions 3 time in 2020

[titan_uranus 22,283]

19 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Get ready to be disappointed. After Mahoney said we only targeted Isaac Smith specifically, but didn't really have a back up option, I knew then we wouldn't be chasing any other options...

Bit perplexed to be honest.

It's been covered and I don't think it's perplexing at all.

Smith was a free agent. Phillips will cost draft picks. So, whilst we were interested in a winger if he could come without a cost, we're less interested in spending for one (bearing in mind Phillips is on decent coin and, whilst good, isn't amazing).

That could well be because we've got an overarching strategy to try to get higher up the draft. 

[Wilson7 2,474]

Mitch Cleary just said Melbourne put a line through Tom Phillips name early in trade period

[layzie 28,666]

Another one to die wondering about. Nothing is certain but after going hard for Smith this would have made some sense. Ah well

[Demons11 6,404]

On 11/9/2020 at 7:17 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Collingwood's Tom Phillips could return to the club next season, with Hawthorn "unlikely" to advance its interest in the wingman.

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[Lord Nev 13,511]

 

[DemonWheels 962]

Gone to Hawthorn for about pick 60

[layzie 28,666]

Pick 60??????? 

[DubDee 20,523]

Pick 65 actually. Reckon Hawks are paying the whole salary. 500 ish

[dazzledavey36 48,704]

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

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1st out of 50? About time you make them stick 11.

In all seriousness what the actual [censored] Collingwood!? Pick 65??? ?

[Demons11 6,404]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

1st out of 50? About time you make them stick 11.

In all seriousness what the actual [censored] Collingwood!? Pick 65??? ?

No pleasing you mate. 

[BDA 20,025]

Pick 65 is a steal. Hard to fathom why we didn't go harder at that price. I know salary is a factor but surely we could have made it work.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Clearly his contract was too large for us to eat.  Perhaps if we had of been able to move T Mac on we might have been more of a chance.

But we can't land everyone.

[Kent 2,579]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

Clearly his contract was too large for us to eat.  Perhaps if we had of been able to move T Mac on we might have been more of a chance.

But we can't land everyone.

Yep TMAc contract didn't leave much room

[Gunna’s 1,799]

1 minute ago, Better days ahead said:

Pick 65 is a steal. Hard to fathom why we didn't go harder at that price. I know salary is a factor but surely we could have made it work.

Agree. Seems crazy ? 

We must have a plan to recruit through the draft or organic growth for the other wing. 

[Redleg 37,553]

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

I am disappointed with that. Dees obviously think he is no good. I don't accept it is salary as we could move on others like Mitch Brown and give Phillips an extra year at a lower salary, but paid in 3 instalments, getting him more and with less tax. 

[Kent 2,579]

Just now, Gunna’s said:

Agree. Seems crazy ? 

We must have a plan to recruit through the draft or organic growth for the other wing. 

Organic growth? Love to see that at the Dees  Get out the fertiliser!?

[Lord Travis 10,158]

Pick 65 is a steal if Hawks have got the cap space to pay him then fair play to them.

[titan_uranus 22,283]

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

I am disappointed with that. Dees obviously think he is no good. I don't accept it is salary as we could move on others like Mitch Brown and give Phillips an extra year at a lower salary, but paid in 3 instalments, getting him more and with less tax. 

You have no idea if we offered that, or if he would have taken it.