CHANGES: Rd 17 vs GWS

[goodwindees 2,488]

2 hours ago, Turner said:

Decisions would already be made on most uncontracted players at this stage, so we stop wasting games on smith and hunt. fritsch looked better without melky at HF so a small in spargo instead and see what chandler and dunkley can do. 

OUT: Preuss, Melksham, vandenberg, Neal-Bullen, Hunt, Smith

IN: Brown, Spargo, Harmes, Dunkley, Chandler, Lockhart

 

Just a staggeringly stupid suggestion to drop van den Berg based on his game last night where he was in our best 8 and he’s the only combative, genuinely hard pr&i*ck in the Club. 

[Flower Magic 776]

2 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Adelaide just rolled GWS,  this thread should see some action now.

Get Bennell in, we need something to spark us.

So we win both games, Bulldogs win both games (they have Hawks and Dockers), Pies win one game (GC Suns) and we finish .... 9th. Excellent.

IN: Brayshaw, TMac, Harmes or Lockhart

OUT: ANB, Preuss, Bedford

[titan_uranus 24,975]

28 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Rivers is the only kid deserving of a game. Why play kids when they are not up to it at the moment. You still need to pick best available. Let's hope these kids like Baker & Bedford can improve over the off season as they need to if wanting to play AFL

I didn't think Baker was horrendous. I thought Bedford was a mile off and should be dropped, but I'm not against keeping Baker in.

I think the most important change to make is replacing Preuss with TMac or Brown. 

[goodwindees 2,488]

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Absolutely watched the game.

Saw vandenBerg turn it over almost every time he got it in the first half.

I'm genuinely sick of the argument that he should stay in the side because of his "combative spirit". Our biggest problem isn't "combative spirit", it's our inability to execute the basic fundamentals, and vandenBerg is a repeat offender. Bad kick, fumbly, gives away free kicks.  

I have genuinely come to the opinion that you and Lord Nev are the two biggest fools on this site. You’re out of here as far as I’m concerned. 

[titan_uranus 24,975]

2 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I have genuinely come to the opinion that you and Lord Nev are the two biggest fools on this site. You’re out of here as far as I’m concerned. 

No worries.

From memory you were very happy about vandenBerg giving Mihocek concussion, as if that was some sort of achievement on a football field.

FWIW, I love vandenBerg's attitude to football. But as I said before, our biggest problem is our inability to execute basic football skills, and vandenBerg is a prime offender when it comes to turnovers.

[Cards13 9,117]

12 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

You can’t have watched the game last night if you’re even suggesting van den Berg to go out.  And you clearly don’t understand that he’s about the only player with really combative spirit in a club full of soft c*o#c8ks.

Oh ffs Goody enough! Vanders making his teammates walk tall narrative is done now. The guy started slowly this year, built up to an average output against the pies (I said terrible at the time) and has been worse since. 
Again, the club has built itself entirely on contested, “competitive” players... 2018 was the aberration at this point and guys like Vanders don’t have the skill or smarts to win us a flag. 
Happy to review this after he retires. 

Edited September 8, 2020 by Cards13

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

It doesn't matter who we have up forward, we have zero forward pressure the ball just Walt's out so easily.

i don't see why a Bennell or a Tmac is going to improve anything.

[jumbo returns 6,740]

No Brown - please

[Watts the matter 1,235]

26 minutes ago, Flower Magic said:

So we win both games, Bulldogs win both games (they have Hawks and Dockers), Pies win one game (GC Suns) and we finish .... 9th. Excellent.

IN: Brayshaw, TMac, Harmes or Lockhart

OUT: ANB, Preuss, Bedford

You have forgotten about the Saints.

[D4Life 2,454]

Selected an unbalanced team against Swans and even worse against Dockers!
Had been settling backline Against Crows, Roos & Pies then swung Smith back in, Lockhart out, can’t see the logic.

Similarly with forward line, 2 talls, 2 mediums, 2 smalls works, then gets thrown out!

Seem keen to keep experimenting, when something starts to work, why screw it up?

Jones also led to team imbalance!

Hard to understand what the Demons have been doing at selection!!

[nosoupforme 3,085]

INS  Jackson  Harmes     Tmac   Lockhart   Hannan or Bennell cannot separate. 

 Out Preuss  Smith   ABN  Bedford  Kicket.

Enough of Smith.. 

 Kicket needs a break  don't throw him to the wolves .. 

ABN  has been ordinary since 2019.

Bedford makes way to bring in experience 

 Preuss wasn't suited in wet conditions.. 

[buck_nekkid 5,847]

The biggest change needs to be in our approach. We changed our plan to beat the saints, and gave up our natural approach.  We had no system to attack in the following two games.  Need to select a more attacking team (starts with being able to hit a target and a willingness to take the game on), then get them to have a crack.  Dour defense only strangled the Saints, but cost us against the Swans and the Dockers.  Need players that will do this.

I see us finishing 9th.  So lets just have a crack with some we want to have a look at at this level.  TMAC out to pasture and a long preseason to prep.

[Roger Mellie 3,984]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Well, I've gone from 'Play the kids' this morning to 'Best 22 and fingers crossed they find some form.'
Would like to see Baker and Bedford have a go in better conditions and for TMac and Bennell, if not now, then when?

OUT: HUNT, NEAL-BULLEN, PREUSS, SMITH
IN: T.MCDONALD, HARMES, HANNAN, BENNELL

HIBBERD.          MAY.            LEVER.    
SALEM.      TOMLINSON.    RIVERS.  
LANGDON.      OLIVER.         BAKER. 
BEDFORD.  T.MCDONALD.  HARMES. 
PICKETT.     WEIDEMAN.    FRITSCH. 
GAWN.         PETRACCA.        VINEY.  

MELKSHAM.  BENNELL. VANDENBERG. HANNAN. 

Looks pretty good to me!

I'm not fussed whether it's TMac or Brown coming in - they both have telling weaknesses.

I'd also like to see Lockhart back if not injured somehow. It will be interesting if we can get some synergy in the forward line with Bedford, Pickett and Bennell, particularly now that Bennell has taken it upon himself to direct traffic a bit more (would be a bonus if he laid a tackle too)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hogan2014 390]

Need to kick goals to win games need to bring in Tom mac can’t be any worse than what we have currently & can mark... throw Bennell in the pocket & go away from all of our players wanting to win this contested ball, actually play man on man 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Have to bring in T Mac and Bennell...  will need all the talent we have on the park this week, as bad as T Mac has been he could pull something out of the hat.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[buck_nekkid 5,847]

19 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Have to bring in T Mac and Bennell...  will need all the talent we have on the park this week, as bad as T Mac has been he could pull something out of the hat.

It’s not his hat he has to pull something out of....

[WERRIDEE 5,445]

B: LOCKHART, MAY, LEVER

HB: RIVERS, TOMLINSON, HIBBERD

C : LANGDON, PETRACCA, SALEM

HF: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, BENNELL

F: PICKETT, WEIDEMAN, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: VANDENBERG, HARMES, BAKER, SPARROW

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

INS  Jackson  Harmes     Tmac   Lockhart   Hannan or Bennell cannot separate. 

 Out Preuss  Smith   ABN  Bedford  Kicket.

Enough of Smith.. 

 Kicket needs a break  don't throw him to the wolves .. 

ABN  has been ordinary since 2019.

Bedford makes way to bring in experience 

 Preuss wasn't suited in wet conditions.. 

I’m Kick It, he is Pickett, Derek Kicket is long retried and never played for us. 

[ding 5,126]

Does anyone else find it incredible that our next opponent has gifted us a chance to stick one last dagger into the supporters hearts?

Last match we were effectively dead. Now we wont be dead until after GWS beat us.

Season just keeps on giving.

 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

2 minutes ago, ding said:

Does anyone else find it incredible that our next opponent has gifted us a chance to stick one last dagger into the supporters hearts?

Last match we were effectively dead. Now we wont be dead until after GWS beat us.

 

 

You think we are going to get away that easy?  We will beat GWS and have a chance to make finals if we beat Essendon.

The torture will be over when heading into the last quarter of the Dons game we just need to hold our lead to play finals and lose by less than a goal.

[dee-tox 4,835]

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I didn't think Baker was horrendous. I thought Bedford was a mile off and should be dropped, but I'm not against keeping Baker in.

I think the most important change to make is replacing Preuss with TMac or Brown. 

You saw a different Baker than I did then. Messed up everything he tried. Terrible.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

6 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

    Hannan or Bennell cannot separate. 

 

Easy,  Bennell.   We recruited him for a reason, so lets play him. Theres only two games left for us anyway most likely.

Hannan has been on the list for years and has done nothing besides a handful of solid games and that great goal in a the Geelong final.  Hes a delist for sure.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

10 hours ago, GCDee said:

Out: Baker, Pruess, ANB

In: Bennell, Hannan, Tmac 

 

Smith stays because omac is [censored].

Tend to agree - Smith seemed to play reasonably well in a losing team - but there is a need for him to gain a bit more utility at the ball, even though he is not a backman. As for OMac, well, my stance on him is well known. Absolutely useless. The obsession to play him at all is biting back after all these years of tolerating (remotely held) opinion.

[waynewussell 5,369]

9 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Absolutely watched the game.

Saw vandenBerg turn it over almost every time he got it in the first half.

I'm genuinely sick of the argument that he should stay in the side because of his "combative spirit". Our biggest problem isn't "combative spirit", it's our inability to execute the basic fundamentals, and vandenBerg is a repeat offender. Bad kick, fumbly, gives away free kicks.  

On AVB giving away free kicks... He is on 12 against, compared to 24 Cripps, 16 Fyfe,  19 Oliver, 17 Kosi, 15 Harmes, & 15 Petracca.

[Happy Jack 197]

I would love to see them go the double Wagner option - I could do with a laugh right now.