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A former top 10 pick and only 23 years old will probably be on the lookout for a new club at the end of the year. He’s been hit by injury over the last couple of seasons and might relish being at a new club. Would we look at getting him?

 
1 hour ago, Demon Head said:

A former top 10 pick and only 23 years old will probably be on the lookout for a new club at the end of the year. He’s been hit by injury over the last couple of seasons and might relish being at a new club. Would we look at getting him?

What we can get from Geelong for Preuss, has been a bit of a thought bubble this week and Nakia crossed my mind half way through the game last night while pondering the need for one more small forward/outside mid. We'd have to back ourselves to get him right of course.

The Cats hopeful downfall this year at the expense of Richmond or WCE in the ruck, should give us the upper hand in having our needs met and getting overs through their desperation. We should wrangle one of their WCE T Kelly picks eg We'd give Preuss and Hawks 2nd approx #22, they'd give Cockatoo and pick 15 or 16. I don't like the idea of a straight player swap given the injury history.

we should just do a straight swap for one of  their 1st round picks. They should be looking to use 1 or 2 of their picks to fill immediate needs while they have Hawkins in the premiership window

Edited by John Demonic

 

Collingwood fan site recruiting guru Colin Wisbey was asked the question about him and he responded with a “no” because of the “durability” risk. He believes that the Pies have a poor record for managing to have its best 30 players on the park and doesn’t think the risk with him is justified.

Also, he thinks the injuries might have curtailed his capability as a “slippery runner” which is what made him such a highly ranked draftee.

I tend to agree with this view. The AFL hasn’t yet determined things like list sizes and draft rules and Melbourne already  has those four injured horsemen who have missed the entire season through injury as well as a few others yet to play this year. We’re also nursing Harley Bennell back into the game. I think Cockatoo wouldn’t be one of our main targets. 

When he's up and running he's exactly what we need, and is far from mid-paced. It's a big "if", but if Burgess and our medical team thought they were capable of getting him on the park, I would absolutely take him; he's capable of being one of the best players in the competition. 


5 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Collingwood fan site recruiting guru Colin Wisbey was asked the question about him and he responded with a “no” because of the “durability” risk. He believes that the Pies have a poor record for managing to have its best 30 players on the park and doesn’t think the risk with him is justified.

Also, he thinks the injuries might have curtailed his capability as a “slippery runner” which is what made him such a highly ranked draftee.

I tend to agree with this view. The AFL hasn’t yet determined things like list sizes and draft rules and Melbourne already  has those four injured horsemen who have missed the entire season through injury as well as a few others yet to play this year. We’re also nursing Harley Bennell back into the game. I think Cockatoo wouldn’t be one of our main targets. 

Collingwood have had massive troubles keeping players on the park since replacing the fitness team that was there during Matlhouse era.
 

The guy can play football but would only consider it under a Bennell type rate.

 

If he passes his medical and can physically do what he has before.

Very definite yes...


1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

Worth a look, definitely.

Worth the money he’d be after? Probably not.

Are they looking at releasing him, mate?

Can anyone remind me, what is his injury issue?

Surely there is an inside mid/half forward flanker on the outer we could trade for?


21 hours ago, Good Times Grimes said:

When he's up and running he's exactly what we need, and is far from mid-paced. It's a big "if", but if Burgess and our medical team thought they were capable of getting him on the park, I would absolutely take him; he's capable of being one of the best players in the competition. 

Exactly.  The kid has talent but it’s burgo’s call. 

Injury prone from his pre-AFL days and not a hard track worker by all accounts.  Read into that whatever you will. Further, we have plenty of mids.  Our trouble spot is CHF although I am hoping Harry Petty can fill that gap.

16 hours ago, A F said:

Are they looking at releasing him, mate?

 

14 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

No idea.

@Mach5 you'd have better insights into the merits of 'the birdcage' than most. How would you rate him in the context of improving our overall list?

Question: How long is Burgo signed up for?

 

On 8/30/2020 at 9:29 AM, Good Times Grimes said:

When he's up and running he's exactly what we need, and is far from mid-paced. It's a big "if", but if Burgess and our medical team thought they were capable of getting him on the park, I would absolutely take him; he's capable of being one of the best players in the competition. 

Durability is the key; it surprises me that The Filth actually used that word relative to the player - who would have thought that they could use words of more than two syllables? We already have an outstanding footballer almost in the wings, in Bennell, who is more than capable of such a role for the team - once this durability issues are sorted. We really need with some urgency a centre half back type of player with mongrel.


He's got explosive pace and when up and running he's the type of midfielder we're lacking - someone with the ability to play both inside and outside.

That said, he's had injury issues dating back to before he was even drafted. Unless it's on rookie wage, it wouldn't be worth the investment trying to get his body right. If he's got poor attitude as someone else mentioned, then it's a pass.

11 hours ago, TRIGON said:

 

@Mach5 you'd have better insights into the merits of 'the birdcage' than most. How would you rate him in the context of improving our overall list?

 

Not sure about that, but I think it’s pretty much a case of WYSIWYG.

Pace, agility, pressure, fragility.

Would be a nice piece to add, but I’m not sure we could afford what he might get offered elsewhere.

at the start of next season nakia will have missed the last 3 seasons injured (bar a couple of games at the start of 2018)

 

Linc McCarthy had hardly played at Geelong and hasn't missed a beat since going to  Brisbane. If I were Cockatoo I'd be on the first flight north.

He has tremendous talent but I do wonder if he's the quick pressure mid/forward we need. 

We need a guy like Parfitt or Butters or both. Someone to add pressure like Parfitt does who doesn't need 25 touches a game or someone like Butters who can run contest to contest at half forward. 

Cockatoo has speed and skill, but he's also a ball winner and after 3 years out it's hard to train that explosive pressure and contest to contest run in to a guy.

The Cats  midfield is playing far better this year with Parfitt and Guthrie alongside Danger and Selwood rather than Tim Kelly.

9 hours ago, roy11 said:

Question: How long is Burgo signed up for?

 

5 more weeks and a final or 2

Edited by olisik


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