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4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I agree it’s not JT 

The trades of Preuss and Tomlinson probably need more scrutiny, as does giving 2x first round picks for Lever.  Mahoney or Taylor or Goodwin? 
 

 

Preuss trade not the worst move IMO.

With no Hogan/Pedersen they probably didn't want play Tmac/Weid in the ruck in event that Maxy went down.

Either way, now we have some decent trade bait as several teams could do with him. 

Tyson no big loss given similar players. 

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    I reckon his success rate is about 50/50 which for an AFL recruiter is pretty damn good. Some of those players he traded in (not drafted) were exactly what we needed in the short term, to say some of them were errors because they didn't play 250 games for us is an error in itself.

     

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    This thread is aging well in the amusement stakes. 

    I can't remember the last time the kids we've drafted have come into the team and shown as much promise as all 3 of these kids. 

    Many bemoaned the pick swap trade to get Pickett but it's looking like a masterstroke. The only players on current form that look the goods drafted after him are Will Day and Georgiades but they weren't the type of player we needed. 

    Rivers at 35 looks a steal,  Jacko is looking like a freak talent and seemingly gaining confidence every game. 

    Small sample size/early days I know but we look to have nailed it in the 2019 draft. 

     

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    4 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

    This thread is aging well in the amusement stakes. 

    I can't remember the last time the kids we've drafted have come into the team and shown as much promise as all 3 of these kids. 

    Many bemoaned the pick swap trade to get Pickett but it's looking like a masterstroke. The only players on current form that look the goods drafted after him are Will Day and Georgiades but they weren't the type of player we needed. 

    Rivers at 35 looks a steal,  Jacko is looking like a freak talent and seemingly gaining confidence every game. 

    Small sample size/early days I know but we look to have nailed it in the 2019 draft. 

     

    We are the only team in the AFL this year that's had all our draftees from last year play together in the one game.

    Again, that's a huge tick for Jason Taylor.

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    Remember when we used to continually blow high picks on the likes of Watts, Scully, Gysberts, Toumpas, Morton, Gysberts, Blease, Strauss, Cook.....

    Well Taylor has got us  Oliver, Petracca, Salem, Brayshaw, Weideman, Viney, LJ, Pickett, Rivers.....

     

     

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    On 7/31/2020 at 10:30 PM, Little Goffy said:

    If this was a serious thread about drafting during Taylor's time at the club we could have all kind of interesting discussions about attempting to make the most of diverse speculative third round picks, the routine decision to trade second rounders for mature players to get some stability into the team, and the contentious decisions to bank our early picks on getting some allegedly first-rate key defenders into the club for a tilt at a premiership while we still have Gawn at full strength.

    Overall, I'd say each layer of decisions has been a sensible strategy and it is unfortunate that many of those late speculative selections have had mixed and unreliable results.

    But this takes us back to the old 'selection vs development' argument.  There are a lot of players who have shown something significant for at least a while and even whole seasons, but then plateaued or stagnated, or just been injured.

    Hunt, Harmes, Vandenberg, Nibbler, O.Mc, Smith, Hannan, Fritsch, Hore.  All worthy AFL level when in good form, but all have seen long spells of poor form, and not a single pick above 40 in that set.

    Wrong about Fritsch LG was still good learning his back line craft maybe his delivery and decision making a little dodgy.

    Now still averages betw 1.5 and 2 goals per game when played forward.

    Needs to work on his accuracy both in set shots and snaps plus his marking when gage hets hands on ball he sometimes doesn't hold the mark.

    If he die this over the this season snd 2021 we will be looking at Gawny prediction of 40 plus and maybe a Coleman medal contender.

    Really all ways you look at Bayley he is a wonderful young player and team And person to boot and we are very lucky to have him.

    Definitely on the Do NOT TRADE list !!

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    I agree with the general sentiment that this thread is a joke, and people who criticised the club for drafting Jackson or PIckett (or for the North pick swap) were wrong.

    But Demonland blows in the wind and if we lose to Collingwood, and/or to anyone else this year, and/or we don't make finals, the same arguments will be trotted back out.

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    2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    I agree with the general sentiment that this thread is a joke, and people who criticised the club for drafting Jackson or PIckett (or for the North pick swap) were wrong.

    But Demonland blows in the wind and if we lose to Collingwood, and/or to anyone else this year, and/or we don't make finals, the same arguments will be trotted back out.

    Quoted for truth.

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    7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    I agree with the general sentiment that this thread is a joke, and people who criticised the club for drafting Jackson or PIckett (or for the North pick swap) were wrong.

    But Demonland blows in the wind and if we lose to Collingwood, and/or to anyone else this year, and/or we don't make finals, the same arguments will be trotted back out.

    Seriously though, this week so far Goodwin is the right guy.... ;)

     

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    Sorry Jas. Funnily enough when we lose I think you can't recruit when we win suddenly your a genius. This year's recruiting spree has been amazing. Jackson, Kossie and Rivers all look amazing. Last year's not so but Sparrow is starting to look the goods. Weid's finally showing something, Clarry has been amazing and Petracca and Brayshaw have showed why they are top recruits, Salem has also been good.

    Overall it's been a lot better than Prenergast. Win us a Premiership and your our recruiter for life and I will never doubt you again.

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    Old mate @Elegt has started drop Oliver and sack Taylor threads in consecutive weeks - he's having a worse trot than Adelaide.

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    3 hours ago, 58er said:

    Wrong about Fritsch LG was still good learning his back line craft maybe his delivery and decision making a little dodgy.

    Now still averages betw 1.5 and 2 goals per game when played forward.

    Needs to work on his accuracy both in set shots and snaps plus his marking when gage hets hands on ball he sometimes doesn't hold the mark.

    If he die this over the this season snd 2021 we will be looking at Gawny prediction of 40 plus and maybe a Coleman medal contender.

    Really all ways you look at Bayley he is a wonderful young player and team And person to boot and we are very lucky to have him.

    Definitely on the Do NOT TRADE list !!

    Just for balance, I've been in the ranty wing of Team Fritta for some time. You'll find far too many posts of me insisting that Fritsch is in the top five of his draft and I stand by that. At the time this thread was started Fritsch was kicking his couple of goals but doing little else and that was definitely below his best, but the flat period for him of course was his inconsistency while neing tossed around the ground last year. 100% Fritsch output is a lock for All Australian.

    Anyway, the sack Taylor wailing was, like, three whole weeks ago and since then our season has been turned around largely by the resurgence of players who were 'trade disasters' and 'not up to it' and 'failed experiments' as recently as July.

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    3 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

    Old mate @Elegt has started drop Oliver and sack Taylor threads in consecutive weeks - he's having a worse trot than Adelaide.

    @Elegt I nominate a 'Rivers is soft and will never make it' thread.

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    3 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Remember when we used to continually blow high picks on the likes of Watts, Scully, Gysberts, Toumpas, Morton, Gysberts, Blease, Strauss, Cook.....

    Well Taylor has got us  Oliver, Petracca, Salem, Brayshaw, Weideman, Viney, LJ, Pickett, Rivers.....

     

     

    Sorry but everyone here would have been sharing the same optimism about those pickups at this stage of there careers.

    Oliver is his standout, the jury is either out on the rest or I could have picked them from my couch. I don't know why you have included Viney considering he was drafted with Toumpas by his old man.

    We are a mid range team and he has had some major assets to work with. Taylor has done some nice things but I don't share the over the top optimism on the back of beating two of the worst football teams to ever take the field.

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    3 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

    Many bemoaned the pick swap trade to get Pickett but it's looking like a masterstroke. The only players on current form that look the goods drafted after him are Will Day and Georgiades but they weren't the type of player we needed. 

    Rivers at 35 looks a steal,  Jacko is looking like a freak talent and seemingly gaining confidence every game. 

    Small sample size/early days I know but we look to have nailed it in the 2019 draft. 

     

    Off memory we wanted Georgiades ahead of Rivers.

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    2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Off memory we wanted Georgiades ahead of Rivers.

    Good call (Although i do like Rivers)

    I think we just missed out on Dursma as well

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    2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Off memory we wanted Georgiades ahead of Rivers.

    Blessing in disguise? Rivers the direct Young replacement.

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    6 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Remember when we used to continually blow high picks on the likes of Watts, Scully, Gysberts, Toumpas, Morton, Gysberts, Blease, Strauss, Cook.....

    Well Taylor has got us  Oliver, Petracca, Salem, Brayshaw, Weideman, Viney, LJ, Pickett, Rivers.....

     

     

    Agree, the Gysberts brothers were rubbish 

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    7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    We are the only team in the AFL this year that's had all our draftees from last year play together in the one game.

    Again, that's a huge tick for Jason Taylor.

    Agreed, although it might also say that we're at that list cycle stage of going after players that can contribute immediately from day dot, rather than look to build a core over a number of years.

    Jackson in particular is super impressive for his ability to stay in contests and run out games given he's playing in far more contested positions than Rivers or Kozzie are. 

    That said, all three look exciting prospects.

    6 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

    Old mate @Elegt has started drop Oliver and sack Taylor threads in consecutive weeks - he's having a worse trot than Adelaide.

    Have you had your internet cut off, @Elegt? I haven't seen much from you since prior to the Adelaide match.

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    50 minutes ago, A F said:

    Agreed, although it might also say that we're at that list cycle stage of going after players that can contribute immediately from day dot, rather than look to build a core over a number of years.

    Jackson in particular is super impressive for his ability to stay in contests and run out games given he's playing in far more contested positions than Rivers or Kozzie are. 

    That said, all three look exciting prospects.

    Have you had your internet cut off, @Elegt? I haven't seen much from you since prior to the Adelaide match.

    Could put @olisik in the same bracket. Will only ever come out after any loss. Goes MIA when there's a win...

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    8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Shocking thread.

    Mods please delete 

    I agree Dazzle people forget how bad our list was in 2014 and we now have a list capable of challenging - I don’t understand how the mods can let a thread with this title run deplorable 

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    6 minutes ago, Jack Russell said:

    I agree Dazzle people forget how bad our list was in 2014 and we now have a list capable of challenging - I don’t understand how the mods can let a thread with this title run deplorable 

    Well, no one takes it seriously, so it's become more of a 'Praise Jason Taylor' thread. ;)

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