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clearly not picking the right players for us. Wasting draft picks. Why these guys are on our list bewilders me

 

-wagner brothers

-kolodjasnij

-baker

-spargo

-chandler

-preuss

-bradke

 

Questionable selections

-pickett for a first rounder, quite possibly the number 1 pick

-passing on hayden young (great footskills off the hbf. Exactly what we need)

-recruiting lever and may with 3 first round picks

-getting two wingers who can't kick

-jordon with a second rounder 

 

 

Taylor needs to go

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@Elegt correct me if i am wrong here? I don't think you entirely understand how list management works do you..  

We got Jackson, Pickett and Rivers out of our last draft. I'd say that was a clear win. Well done Jason Taylor.

@Elegt go to bed.  

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2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

@Elegt correct me if i am wrong here?

I don't think you entirely understand how list management works do you..

Or who does it.

This poster needs a '1 thread per week' limit.

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Bit harsh on Bradtke he's a b grade rookie, but the rest are right add the Tyson ans Salem deal when we could have had Billings or Kelly. We need to sack everyone at Melbourne and start again the club is a dogs breakfast.

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Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Bit harsh on Bradtke he's a b grade rookie, but the rest are right add the Tyson ans Salem deal when we could have had Billings or Kelly. We need to sack everyone at Melbourne and start again the club is a dogs breakfast.

Seems like you're the only poster on here who's not afraid to speak up and demand change. Too many optimists on here 

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100% agree, he has failed to draft any decent non first rounders since he came to the dees

 

Mitch King

Liam Hulett

Dion Johnston

Oscar Baker

Jayden Hunt

JKH

Mitch Clisby

 

List goes on, draft pick after draft pick wasted.

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, olisik said:

100% agree, he has failed to draft any decent non first rounders since he came to the dees

 

Mitch King

Liam Hulett

Dion Johnston

Oscar Baker

Jayden Hunt

JKH

Mitch Clisby

 

List goes on

 

 

 

 

Well, there's the nail in the coffin, @Elegt. You're on the same page as the mighty O. Time to pack up shop.

In terms of constructive criticism. I think Taylor's done a pretty good job, particularly with our earlier picks. 

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37 minutes ago, Elegt said:

clearly not picking the right players for us. Wasting draft picks. Why these guys are on our list bewilders me

 

-wagner brothers

-kolodjasnij

-baker

-spargo

-chandler

-preuss

-bradke

 

Questionable selections

-pickett for a first rounder, quite possibly the number 1 pick

-passing on hayden young (great footskills off the hbf. Exactly what we need)

-recruiting lever and may with 3 first round picks

-getting two wingers who can't kick

-jordon with a second rounder 

 

 

Taylor needs to go

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

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 The OP was made by someone I had on ignore ... so carry on.

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Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

Surely the chief recruiter is involved in trading

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1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

Don't let the facts get in the way of a rip roaring thread, Doc.

Just wait till next week when we roll Adelaide and we praise Jason Taylor for drafting Ed Langdon and Steven May.

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

Also should be sacked but instead will probably be promoted again. It’s what happens when you have an assistant coaching acting as GM

At the rate we are going we may as well give Chaplin club presidency and call it a day

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9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

I agree we have done well turning lower picks into football careers. What we are really bad at is trading. They always see us coming. We overpay our way out of high draft picks. We pay too much for May, Pruess, Leaver, Langdon, Tomlinson.  

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9 minutes ago, olisik said:

Also should be sacked but instead will probably be promoted again. It’s what happens when you have an assistant coaching acting as GM

At the rate we are going we may as well give Chaplin club presidency and call it a day

Do you post when we win? Serious question. I don't recall reading much of you when we win.

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Just now, A F said:

Do you post when we win? Serious question.

No posts between July 11 (the night of the GC win) and last night.

One post about the GC win, half about us and half about Rankine.

One post after the Carlton win.

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2 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Play the ball not the man

Says the poster who does nothing but start and bump threads criticising players and doesn't engage in rational discussions.

You cop heat on here because, like olisik, you're impossible to read or deal with and infuriatingly repetitive.

If you don't like copping heat, relent on the monotonous over-posting and try talking about something else once in a while.

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59 minutes ago, Elegt said:

clearly not picking the right players for us. Wasting draft picks. Why these guys are on our list bewilders me

 

-wagner brothers

-kolodjasnij

-baker

-spargo

-chandler

-preuss

-bradke

 

Questionable selections

-pickett for a first rounder, quite possibly the number 1 pick

-passing on hayden young (great footskills off the hbf. Exactly what we need)

-recruiting lever and may with 3 first round picks

-getting two wingers who can't kick

-jordon with a second rounder 

 

 

Taylor needs to go


 

 

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If this was a serious thread about drafting during Taylor's time at the club we could have all kind of interesting discussions about attempting to make the most of diverse speculative third round picks, the routine decision to trade second rounders for mature players to get some stability into the team, and the contentious decisions to bank our early picks on getting some allegedly first-rate key defenders into the club for a tilt at a premiership while we still have Gawn at full strength.

Overall, I'd say each layer of decisions has been a sensible strategy and it is unfortunate that many of those late speculative selections have had mixed and unreliable results.

But this takes us back to the old 'selection vs development' argument.  There are a lot of players who have shown something significant for at least a while and even whole seasons, but then plateaued or stagnated, or just been injured.

Hunt, Harmes, Vandenberg, Nibbler, O.Mc, Smith, Hannan, Fritsch, Hore.  All worthy AFL level when in good form, but all have seen long spells of poor form, and not a single pick above 40 in that set.

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18 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Says the bloke who started a 'Sack Jason Taylor' thread.

I could rephrase to "why the hell do we have no good young players"

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1 minute ago, Elegt said:

I could rephrase to "why the hell do we have no good young players"

Why are you basing a stupid and under-researched post on a game off a four-day break against the top side after a 2pt loss against the second top side.  Its nonsense.  

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