If you look at Viney he’s only really coming good this year even though technically his foot had healed last year. Hopefully another off season will help T-Mac as his best is very Good. Clearly needs strip a few kegs to start running his opponent into the ground again. 

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who might be interested? Collingwood? 

The article did suggest Collingwood as a possible suitor. Although it was stated that his contract would have to be spread out over 3-4 years due to their tight salary cap. Don't know how this works, but given that he will be 29 next year I cannot see that happening

Interesting one isn't it, used to dominate time trials etc now seems a different player.

If he's hampered by injury - bit of a concern that Burgess and team haven't been able to come up with an apparent solution.

If he's bulked up too much and that's led to reduced mobility etc, surely they would he detected this at the start of the year. Reminds me of when Lukaku bulked up too much for the WC in 2018, got back to his club side and struggled with form as he had lost that bit of pace etc. 

If he's a confidence/form player then the lack of adequate 'reserves' comp won't help him get into it.

Uncertain of a trade, still could play a role in some description IF body can be sorted. 

 

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Feeling that way today jr. it’s something that happens to me every year in September when another season has amount to nil with the MFC. First anger then Deep introspection. Followed by there is always next year! However I am seriously running out of next years. 

I'm hearing you, od...2021 will be our year!

4 hours ago, binman said:

His ability is not the problem.

His problem is obviously related to his physical condition 

Not what I meant.

I was responding to someone who said his problem was "half-hearted efforts".

It's not a question of talent. It's a question of his ability to produce AFL-level football right now. Whether that's a prolonged form slump or injury/fitness, and it could well be the latter, the reality is he's not currently able to produce good enough football. But that's not for want of trying.

 

Seems ludicrous to me that you’d ask a player to put on 10kg who has been hampered by foot injuries. 

Jetta         Tmac           Lever

Hibberd    Omac          Lockhart

Rivers        Brayshaw   Salem

Trac           May             Viney

Fritta         Weids          Bennel

Gawn        Trac              Langdon

Hunt   Hannan Tomilson Spargo

AVB for Brayshaw if injured, ANB for Hunt or Tomilson if we can forsake some run.

1 hour ago, Kent said:

R U OK?

Fine Kent but I am old I don't have decades left any longer. 

 

16 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Seems ludicrous to me that you’d ask a player to put on 10kg who has been hampered by foot injuries. 

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

4 hours ago, 58er said:

Short memory !!

Think of Tommy's  2018 season no lack of pace opened up on the wing on occasions.

Burgess needs to have a look and see why he can do I feel unless his body is totally wrecked.

Unfortunately we are in 2020 mate. Don't see how a player can be rated from performances 2 years ago. If that were the case, Bernie Vince would still be on an AFL list

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

He did well on Papley, od

Yes, he did well on Papley and that cannot really be sneezed at - matched him step for step, spoiled, tackled - what more could one ask of a forward mis-placed on the backline by the coach - out of position, out of familiarity, out of kilter. Across the field, it is time for change and common sense - factors not necessarily applied by He Who Knows Best.

I called it earlier on in the year that he's either carring an injury or finished, these revelations that he's put on 10kgs are insane.

Especially considering he's had a fractured/complete break in his metatarsal last year.

Probably carrying lingering foot issues.

Still probably the best set shot in the side

Doesn't help that we have no idea how to deliver to his advantage or that we let him get double/triple teamed. 9 out of 10 inside 50 entries are blindly long bombed, been like that for 3 years. Not to mention 4 of his team mates flying comically for every unrealistic mark

Like Viney, I wouldn't blame him for going to a top 4 side that knows how to use his skill set rather than force him to battle against 3 guys and push [censored] up a hill every week

Why is Hannan picked?

Very, very limited VFL footballer

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Not what I meant.

I was responding to someone who said his problem was "half-hearted efforts".

It's not a question of talent. It's a question of his ability to produce AFL-level football right now. Whether that's a prolonged form slump or injury/fitness, and it could well be the latter, the reality is he's not currently able to produce good enough football. But that's not for want of trying.

 

My thoughts exactly UA.

1 hour ago, Ungarieboy said:

Jetta         Tmac           Lever

Hibberd    Omac          Lockhart

Rivers        Brayshaw   Salem

Trac           May             Viney

Fritta         Weids          Bennel

Gawn        Trac              Langdon

Hunt   Hannan Tomilson Spargo

AVB for Brayshaw if injured, ANB for Hunt or Tomilson if we can forsake some run.

The team would be better if we had a Trac on every line, not just the two.

Is the other one a previously unknown identical twin?

i would like to see the actual quote where he says that the club asked him to put on 10kg for this season - i had never heard that before recent revelations on this forum

agree with everyone that it makes zero sense in the context of what sort of player he has been at his best, how modern football is played, and his injury history

58 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

Just goes to show how quickly an unsubstantiated rumour can gather legs and become gospel.

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

I'm hearing you, od...2021 will be our year!

Sadly jr I have been hearing that  for way too many years. I am hoping for finals next after substantial changes in FD changes in October.

I know we shouldn't pay too much attention to some ex-player pundits, but that's quite a shift over the course of a shortened season

 

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I've seen this 10kg thing a lot.

Is there any evidence at all to support it?

Is there anyone on Demonland who claims to have a source who has said this?

Or is it just a rumour with no real base to it?

It was stated as fact by a poster around the time of the blues game.

The poster's name escapes me and i don't recall them posting for some time (though was prolific poster at that point).

We had a number of back and forth posts about it as in the immortal of Sy Richardson's character, Lite, from Repo Man 'I called [censored] on that'.

As if the club in this day and age would ask an already big, 27 year old power forward to put on 10kgs to play deep full forward (which as i pointed out to said poster they didn't even play him in thta position agnst the blues, or subsequently as it has turned out). 

 

22 minutes ago, binman said:

It was stated as fact by a poster around the time of the blues game.

The poster's name escapes me and i don't recall them posting for some time (though was prolific poster at that point).

We had a number of back and forth posts about it as in the immortal of Sy Richardson's character, Lite, from Repo Man 'I called [censored] on that'.

As if the club in this day and age would ask an already big, 27 year old power forward to put on 10kgs to play deep full forward (which as i pointed out to said poster they didn't even play him in thta position agnst the blues, or subsequently as it has turned out). 

 

The fact was the post just contained crap.

Was mentioned in one of the Fox segments that he might be a worth a late second rounder to a club looking for a key defender. Would be taking that and running at full pelt.

2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i would like to see the actual quote where he says that the club asked him to put on 10kg for this season - i had never heard that before recent revelations on this forum

agree with everyone that it makes zero sense in the context of what sort of player he has been at his best, how modern football is played, and his injury history

This is the only reference I've seen on this WWSW

On 9/8/2020 at 12:21 PM, Coq au vin said:

Apparently he was told to gain 10kg to be able to play full forward and bust packs apart. Big mistake. Now he can’t run!

I don't believe this 10kg thing. He's the same size he was in 2018. 

Why would we slim down Steve May to as thin as he's ever been and bulk Tom up?

If anything Tom might be better off adding a bit of muscle to help him turn and play with power, but there's no way it was or ever will be 10kg