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1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Jones is a very proud man, he is rested, super fit and obviously in form, big game coming up

Huh? Scratch matches “in form”?

Glad he’s in and I hope people give him some time to get up to speed, I’m not expecting a huge game but his ability to hit the scoreboard (as others have mentioned players aren’t A graders without it) is a good in for us. 

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    2 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

    Huh? Scratch matches “in form”?

    Glad he’s in and I hope people give him some time to get up to speed, I’m not expecting a huge game but his ability to hit the scoreboard (as others have mentioned players aren’t A graders without it) is a good in for us. 

    They didn't have any scratch match last week at all.

    I think the last time he played was a fortnight ago against the swans

     

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    2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    Great to see the champ back !!!!

    Even better Uncle,, Champ Demonlander, backs a champ!

    GO DEES

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    1 hour ago, binman said:

    Agree on both counts.

    In someways he is the closest thing to a like for like for VDB in so far as he is sort an old fashioned utility now. By that i mean he can start on the bench and come on to do a short  burst on ball (perhaps around the ground more than center bounces) play of HB as required and even push forward. 

    What Jones doesn't replace however id VDB's tackling and intensity at the ball carrier. It simply cannot be underestimated how important that is for us (well you think it would be - some still mange it).

    The importance of that intensity for us explains why even with his woeful kicking and relatively low numbers he is a lock in Goody's best 22.  

    Others will have to fil that void and Jones will really help our disposal efficiency as a player that struggles to go at 50% DE is being replaced by one that should be around 75% DE. In a tight game that might make  a big difference.

    I hope Jones doesn't just bomb it long to a contest as he has a tendency to do. If he is he the forward line at any stage he could snag a goal though.

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    1 minute ago, cantstandyasam said:

    I hope Jones doesn't just bomb it long to a contest as he has a tendency to do. If he is he the forward line at any stage he could snag a goal though.

    If its gonna be wet the long bomb could let Kossie Or Harley in for a GOALFEAST Crumbfest!

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    1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said:

    If Jones played every game from now on, would he / could he get to 300?

     

    Would love to see that but I think the game has passed him

    Including finals yes.

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    2020 in itself has been weird, but Omac being in the best 22 over Tmac is not something most DLanders would have predicted!

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    Surprised to not see T.Mac out there I thought they would have went for his experience, but great to see their trust in the young kid Jackson. Great to see Jonesey back in the side hope he makes it to 300.

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    5 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

    Jonesy in for Vanders sits very comfortably with me, especially given the expected wet track.

    Maybe a wet track but I live up here and you can't rely on the forecast. At this stage only 1-5mm expected with sunny breaks. I suspect it will be fine by start. 

    With Jones, I agree he has sore shoulders over the years, carrying most but i want to see him run back hard when they have ball instead of jogging through middle.

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    Love the straight swap. No more required. Another good week at the selection table.

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    Backing Tom to return to best 22 form and selection sometime very soon.

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    Probably do Tommy some good to get down into a scratch match and just clunk a few. i get the impression he's felt the pressure to be the spearhead and now he can kinda see he's not even a lock for the best 22 i feel like a return to his best form won't be too far away. 

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    I'm genuinely surprised that TMac will miss. Not because he's necessarily the right option but because it would have been the easier decision.

    I guess the condensed run of games makes selection a little more fluid. Form will be important but with four day breaks all over the place we'll be likely to see some interesting sides picked over the next few weeks.

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    31 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Probably do Tommy some good to get down into a scratch match and just clunk a few. i get the impression he's felt the pressure to be the spearhead and now he can kinda see he's not even a lock for the best 22 i feel like a return to his best form won't be too far away. 

    I think he was heading in the right direction. I would have been happy with either of TMac/Jacko, but I'm very happy we have gone with just the two talls.

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    Good that Jones is back. But I fear he will be caught holding the ball. He likes to force the stoppage by holding it in and under, and he doesn't try to dispose of it. The rule has a new interpretation and if he doesn't adapt, he'll give away 2 or 3 free kicks.

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    So we pay big Money for Tomlinson to play as a wingman, and within a few games they realise his not a wingman, where does he play then? 

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    5 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

    So we pay big Money for Tomlinson to play as a wingman, and within a few games they realise his not a wingman, where does he play then? 

    How do you know 'they' realise he is not a wingman... 

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    2 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

    How do you know 'they' realise he is not a wingman... 

    Well he was dropped, can't back in, do you think he is a wingman? I don't he is a half back flanker or half forward flanker, he is a bad set shot goal kicker though.

     

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    1 minute ago, don't make me angry said:

    Well he was dropped, can't back in, do you think he is a wingman? I don't he is a half back flanker or half forward flanker, he is a bad set shot goal kicker though.

     

    Yes, I do think he is a wingman, that is why he was recruited. 

    He clearly has a range of attributes that the FD felt would compliment that role.

    Like all players that are dropped, they're dropped to work on specific things. Is Weideman a forward now (but two weeks ago he wasn't?) What about Jetta? or OMAC? Did you question whether the FD got it right recruiting them, when they were out of the side?

    I disagree there is enough evidence that he is a bad set shot kicker. He almost won us the game against Geelong. It's not as though he is missing them 30m out directly in front. 

    He provides outlets and is a different style of wingman to Langdon - he is there to perform a range of functions. AND to say he can't get back in after the side has won a couple of matches.. .ergo this means the FD have got the recruitment wrong, just seems to be such a nonsensical statement. 

    There will be a range of factors, perhaps look at bit deeper at the side we are playing against... perhaps the FD have looked at his role compared to who he would likely be up against this week and decided it's a week by week proposition.

    Perhaps the FD also wanted a settled side... heaven knows if we lost to Hawthorn, Brayshaw may have been in the gun and Tomlinson back in.

    Essentially, and more succinctly - the fact that he is not back in this week does not mean he is not a wingman, or has no place ongoing in the side.

     

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    13 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

    Yes, I do think he is a wingman, that is why he was recruited. 

    He clearly has a range of attributes that the FD felt would compliment that role.

    Like all players that are dropped, they're dropped to work on specific things. Is Weideman a forward now (but two weeks ago he wasn't?) What about Jetta? or OMAC? Did you question whether the FD got it right recruiting them, when they were out of the side?

    I disagree there is enough evidence that he is a bad set shot kicker. He almost won us the game against Geelong. It's not as though he is missing them 30m out directly in front. 

    He provides outlets and is a different style of wingman to Langdon - he is there to perform a range of functions. AND to say he can't get back in after the side has won a couple of matches.. .ergo this means the FD have got the recruitment wrong, just seems to be such a nonsensical statement. 

    There will be a range of factors, perhaps look at bit deeper at the side we are playing against... perhaps the FD have looked at his role compared to who he would likely be up against this week and decided it's a week by week proposition.

    Perhaps the FD also wanted a settled side... heaven knows if we lost to Hawthorn, Brayshaw may have been in the gun and Tomlinson back in.

    Essentially, and more succinctly - the fact that he is not back in this week does not mean he is not a wingman, or has no place ongoing in the side.

     

    The biggest difference between Tomlinson and those other players is that they have already shown they are defenders or forwards, Tomlinson has already played a lot of games, and that is what GWS played him as, a half back flanker to half forward flanker, GUS is way ahead of him as a player.

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    12 hours ago, cantstandyasam said:

    I hope Jones doesn't just bomb it long to a contest as he has a tendency to do. If he is he the forward line at any stage he could snag a goal though.

    or hand pass to a stationery player one metre away 

    another of his specialties but Goody knows best

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    On 7/23/2020 at 7:11 PM, Billy said:

    Why? Robinson’s an overrated plodder

     

    Ill never forget the comments he made when playing for Carlton years back, that he enjoyed playing Melbourne because he thought we were soft

    I think Robinson has the potential to do damage if sides don't pay him respect and he gets off the chain a bit, but he's not a powerhouse, never was.

    Would love to see Jack, Trac and Harmesy tear him a new one this week.

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