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Even though big decent KPF's do not influence games like they used to,  you've still got to have them.

So if we had 2 decent key forwards who can play the position well,  we'd probably be a top 4 team.  Play in front,  take a grab,  occupy the hot spot,  absorb punishment and average 2 or 3 goals.

We don't have 1 player of that ilk on the list and the only 1 who goes remotely close (T-Mac) gets double-teamed every week. 

Any 2 of Lyon,  Schwarz,  Robbo,  Jakovich,  Bennett,  Williams,  Spalding or Neitz and we'd be a threat.

Weideman will get a chance or 2 but he's still got a lot to learn.  Brown is a back-up 3rd forward type and Jackson is too young right now to play the role. 

If 1 of the aforementioned 8 players had have played today we would have won.

e.g ... one passage of play saw Gawn tap to Viney who gave it off to Gus who then kicked long to Fritsch in a 1 on 1.  Fritsch's defender then smashed the ball towards the boundary line and safety.

A big bodied KPF (with talent) positions his body more so in the hot spot,  takes the punishment and takes the mark or brings the ball to ground where the front & centre types swoop. 

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The team looked underdone. Surprise, surprise. Let's face it, this coronavirus has killed off the season. Cancelled games, postponed games, whatever. And we still have people who don't take the pandemic seriously. Football is dying. The standard is terrible. The AFL is trying to fashion a silk purse out of a pig's ear.

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2 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

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Complete overrreaction. They obviously haven’t watched a Melbourne games over the past 40 years. 

Yeah at least there were 44 goals kicked when we lost by 186 points though! Jeez.

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53 minutes ago, Swooper Northey said:

I have always supported Goody but am losing patience with the growing trend of being dictated to by opposition teams and not having the ability to react. From the first bounce it was easy to see Geelong's tactic of chipping it around through the midfield. We did nothing to counter that. Geelong had 54 more uncontested possessions and 60 more marks. How do we let that happen?

By playing to Goody's game style Swooper.  Worked to a tee.  For one side anyway.

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7 minutes ago, Elegt said:

What has lever shown 

Rewatch the Dees whip Adelaide in NT in 2018, he was one of the reasons we got going in that game.

Keep in mind he's come back from injury. We all give HB a pass and are super excited, let's give Lever a chance as well, stop being obtuse.

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Maybe if we fold before years end norf won't get out number 1 draft pick

 

You know it makes sense


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15 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

I saw Tmac at more contests as a presence, I felt like he was getting to the play more. Would I like to see 8 contested grabs and 4 goals, of course I would, the point is their is improvement.

There are a few sides with rust it's a call for 3 more games before we get properly snarky about the coach.

I'd like to see a little more fire and brimstone, sometimes it feels a little to millenial the coaching. Also I don't think he would naturally be like that, his style seems a bit forced and without passion, I want passion from the coach too.

Deh, yes they have won 3 games, your point being?

Lever this season or ever? The problem with a loss is all the flaws just seem like one big issue an inch from your nose. Breathe in your own time, take a step back and look a little more calmly. Lever has for instance shown he is capable of playing...

Call it early, call it midway or call it late. There are problems with this Coach and playing group. 

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1 minute ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

Rewatch the Dees whip Adelaide in NT in 2018, he was one of the reasons we got going in that game.

Keep in mind he's come back from injury. We all give HB a pass and are super excited, let's give Lever a chance as well, stop being obtuse.

All I ever hear from Melbourne fans is how good Lever was in that game in Alice. Time to wake up, he's turning into a flop. I don't need to re-watch one game where he played well to justify his price tag I need to see consistency over a prolonged period and simple chest marks held. We're approaching the 2 year mark of his knee injury it's time to let that one go as well.

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2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Maybe if we fold before years end norf won't get out number 1 draft pick

 

You know it makes sense

thanks for reminding me and making my year worse.

although imo most trades of the ilk will be pushed back a year. suspect this year's draft may be uncompromised.

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8 minutes ago, Dame Gaga said:

The team looked underdone. Surprise, surprise. Let's face it, this coronavirus has killed off the season. Cancelled games, postponed games, whatever. And we still have people who don't take the pandemic seriously. Football is dying. The standard is terrible. The AFL is trying to fashion a silk purse out of a pig's ear.

Don’t disagree...results & quality are on display in most games. Different teams are responded better as are connecting better than others training in seperate groups & different game plans are working better. The question is our game plan is it working to suit the length of game? The current circumstances? The ability of coaches to adapt ..Iam afraid Goodwin is failing thus far

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10 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

Rewatch the Dees whip Adelaide in NT in 2018, he was one of the reasons we got going in that game.

Keep in mind he's come back from injury. We all give HB a pass and are super excited, let's give Lever a chance as well, stop being obtuse.

One game does not justify how poor he's been.

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10 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

Rewatch the Dees whip Adelaide in NT in 2018, he was one of the reasons we got going in that game.

Keep in mind he's come back from injury. We all give HB a pass and are super excited, let's give Lever a chance as well, stop being obtuse.

Im sure if you made a highlights package of Joel Smith it would look similar to it. He's an average player who was a big mistake to recruit let alone give away 2 first rounders for 

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Geelong owned us for most of the game though a man short. They relaxed in the last ten minutes with their 16 point lead which is huge in such a low scoring game. They controlled the tempo like a well tuned Swiss chronograph whilst we flopped about like a broken clock that’s right only twice a day. We were lucky to get so close. 

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2 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Sort of, we still easily win if someone man's up Mitch Duncan in the first quarter, Max Gawn doesn't go to water and touches the ball on the goal line in the second quarter, someone stops the handball to Dangerfield in the third quarter. Was pathetic awareness from the whole team on multiple occasions.

Talent was what kept it close, not Goodwin's coaching. That's the point.

 

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Yeah so I'm trying to think of what to even say about the game today and I'm just coming up short. I got very little. I don't even know what the issue is but the gameplan does not appear to be one that is working. I just heard Lever's post game interview and he believes in the system and says when it's up and running can bring about some great football, I appreciate his sentiment rhetoric or not but seriously how much banging the head against the wall do we need to go though? Ball gets kicked into 50, no marking option, hits deck, can we keep it in thereeeee?? No we can't, out it comes, moment gone. That piece of play from Kozzie to keep it in and kick it back to Melk in the square was incredible and deserved a goal how did we squander it? So many deflating moments like that.

Our midfield has become slow and boring, everyone works hard but nothing happens. Handballs are poorly timed and go to the wrong person or just miss the person altogether. The Cats matched us in contested footy for most of the day. 105 uncontested marks to 46, Geelong chipping sideways and making us run around and get tired. WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THIS? Because it seems like continuously playing it into their hands was all we felt like doing. Outcoached again Goodwin. 

Few good performers, I would say the majority of our side were 5 out of 10s. Clarry continues to work hard but isn't playing the smartest footy right now, VIney doing his usual bull like 20 odd touches and not really effecting anything. Kozzie was a shining light and gets you excited when he's simply around the contest and Lockhart might have made some mistakes but I'd prefer to see him out there than others. Hannan just doesn't do enough for me, in and out of games too often. In the past we've loved him because he'd have games like this and bob up and kick 2 in the last to gloss the reality of his performance but he's just not that good in reality.

I will give a little leniency, 1 game in 13 weeks is not easy. Yes I will give it some time, but my god if I see another performance like that after a solid 4 week block then well yeah. 

Get it together.

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23 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

By playing to Goody's game style Swooper.  Worked to a tee.  For one side anyway.

When I saw the inclusions I thought the plan would have been to provide defensive pressure to lock the ball into our forward line,?

Instead we see the ball chipped around to loose Geelong players. It is hard to judge our backline when they are exposed so easily by the lack of upfield pressure. In other games I was frustrated that our forwards were not in the forward line.I can only hope that we are "rusty" and that at the end of this season we will see what our side can do.

 

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28 minutes ago, Macca said:

Any 2 of Lyon,  Schwarz,  Robbo,  Jakovich,  Bennett,  Williams,  Spalding or Neitz and we'd be a threat.

Oh, the memories...........❤️?

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Goodwin in his presser:

"we couldn't get the ball off them"

"Next time we play a team that wants to hold on to possession we'll be better prepared"

Seriously, If I was Goodwin I would resign in shame - if not after that game, then after comments like the above.

It's the stock standard way to beat melbourne. We all know it, the rest of the league know it but our genius coach hasn't yet worked it out.

Holy cow. Anyone that was wavering about Goodwin's ability to coach look no further than the two lines above.

 

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47 minutes ago, Macca said:

Even though big decent KPF's do not influence games like they used to,  you've still got to have them.

So if we had 2 decent key forwards who can play the position well,  we'd probably be a top 4 team.  Play in front,  take a grab,  occupy the hot spot,  absorb punishment and average 2 or 3 goals.

We don't have 1 player of that ilk on the list and the only 1 who goes remotely close (T-Mac) gets double-teamed every week. 

Any 2 of Lyon,  Schwarz,  Robbo,  Jakovich,  Bennett,  Williams,  Spalding or Neitz and we'd be a threat.

Weideman will get a chance or 2 but he's still got a lot to learn.  Brown is a back-up 3rd forward type and Jackson is too young right now to play the role. 

If 1 of the aforementioned 8 players had have played today we would have won.

e.g ... one passage of play saw Gawn tap to Viney who gave it off to Gus who then kicked long to Fritsch in a 1 on 1.  Fritsch's defender then smashed the ball towards the boundary line and safety.

A big bodied KPF (with talent) positions his body more so in the hot spot,  takes the punishment and takes the mark or brings the ball to ground where the front & centre types swoop. 

I thought it had been decided that none of these players would get a game these days? 

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2 hours ago, Optimus D said:

Two bog ordinary  football teams  tonite. MFC team delivering more poor footy for MFC supporters yet again. This is tiresome. Groaaaaannnn.  Amongst other things we have to find a big bodied forward or 2, this current set up is not going to take us anywhere.

 

2 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

Zone defence without pressure on ball carriers leaks like a sieve. Standing 10 metres, clear of a direct opponent gave them a paddock to execute their skills. What is wrong with some old fashioned 'man on man' accountable defence? Midifield; Yiney, Brayshaw, Oliver, Harmes et al,  all rallied heroically around the leader in the last 7 'Little Bighorn' minutes. Unfortunately the cavarly charged off the MCG cliff, with some 'fluffed' chances admittedly from difficult positions. We were momentarily having delusions of a younger Salem kicking the winning goal. Not going to can the endeavor though, skills? Rust it appears never sleeps.

Yes it definitely leaked like a sieve? Geelong who played in last year’s prelim, had 12 scoring shots.  Some leak!

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