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CHANGES: Rd 02 vs Carlton

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23 minutes ago, hardtack said:

I should probably rewatch the game I suppose... my memory of it was that although he had something like 21 disposals, his efficiency wasn't particularly good, and he had been off his game for some time up to that point (last season's performances).  Maybe I'm being too harsh.

I think people are being too harsh on his round 1 game. Made a few mistakes but also did some very good things. Was a little better than his 2019 average. Really training standards should of more importance than performance in one match 2 months ago, and who knows how different players have managed with that.

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    43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Simply just awesome..

    All 3 of our 2019 draft selections are playing.

    Big tick for Jason Taylor.

    you don't get ticks for playing them. playing well yeah, but not getting games.

    So the Weid has been zeroed.

    Disappointing and heading for the trade table is my guess. We don't have much success with drafting key forwards.

    If Smith fails he might get a run down back given Petty's injury.

    We seem to hear little of Baker.

    Too many changes is my take. Perhaps they are all justified but it signals how poor some have been playing even when they're not playing!!

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    1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    So the Weid has been zeroed.

    Disappointing and heading for the trade table is my guess. We don't have much success with drafting key forwards.

    If Smith fails he might get a run down back given Petty's injury.

    We seem to hear little of Baker.

    Too many changes is my take. Perhaps they are all justified but it signals how poor some have been playing even when they're not playing!!

    Why do you say that?  He could still play.

    For what it's worth, I think we should have traded him last year while his value was at its highest.

    23 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    IN: Jones, Salem, Bennell, Jackson, Rivers
    OUT: Spargo, Bedford, ANB, Brown, Lockhart

    ?

    I agree this is the likely changes. But Lockhart would be very very disappointed as he played a pretty good game. 
     

    Bkg- jetta May lever. Hibberd Omcd salem 

    Mids - gawn oliver viney Langdon brayshaw Tomlinson 

    Fwds- Petracca Tmcd melksham. Pickett Jackson Fritsch 

    int  harmes n-jones rivers Bennell 

    emerg  Lockhart Bedford Anb

     

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    Pretty surprising that we are playing the three debutants.

    What the side might look like with those included;

    FB: Jetta (Betts)  - May (McKay) - Hibberd (McGovern)

    HB: Rivers - Lever - Salem 

    C : Langdon - Viney - A.Tom

    HF: Trac - TMac - Melksham

    FF: Kozzi - Jackson - Bennell

    R: Gawn - Oliver - Brayshaw

    I: Jones (Fwd/Mid) - Harmes (Back/Mid) - Smith (Back) - ANB (Fwd/Mid)

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    Depth: Vanders - OMac - Bedford - Hannan - Weid - Hunt - Brown - Lockhart

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    12 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    Why do you say that?  He could still play.

    For what it's worth, I think we should have traded him last year while his value was at its highest.

    Agree Weid could play but I very much doubt it. Especially when you consider 16 minute quarters means less call for a relief ruck let alone two.

    His injury in the second half of last year was unfortunate. Had he played in those inconsequential games we would have all known one way or the other if he could cut it.

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    Bugger those ins, I want to know if the most talked up, greatest player of all time, one J.Smith is getting a game. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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    30 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    I love vandenFyfe but he's cooked.

    Very happy we have Bennell but would be shocked if he doesn't get injured.

    Rivers is a big tick.

    Jackson will be interesting, with Preuss injured I hope he plays that second ruck role.

    Possibly the play with Jackson is they want Max to spend more time up frwd with TMac (to expose a short Carlton backline) and they felt more comfortable with Jackson (over Weid) doing more minutes in the middle.

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    46 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Personally, I think Demonland should ban posters making a comment such as this one. Haven't we learnt nothing?

    What does that mean?

    Edited by ManDee
    Perhaps I missed the point. That Demonland ban such a phrase


    In: Jones, Salem, Bennell, Jackson, Rivers, Weid

    Out: Lockhart, Bedford, Spargo, Neal-Bullen, Brown, Hibberd

     

    B: Jetta, May, Lever

    HB: Salem, Omac, Rivers

    ? Langdon, Oliver, Tomlinson

    HF: Melksham, Tmac, Jones

    F: Pickett, Weid, Fritsch

    R: Gawn, Viney, Petracca

    I: Brayshaw, Harmes, Jackson, Bennell

     

    Can't see us playing jackson as the only other tall forward along side tmac. Marc Mcgowan reported that at todays training neal-bullen, brown, bedford, spargo all playing in the 'B' team. Only other possible change is maybe joel smith plays for omac or if lever doesn't get up.

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    Gawn and Jackson rotating in the ruck will evolve into one of the hardest to combat ruck combos in the competition over the next 1-5 years, so Goodwin has jumped straight into it... with Maxy's fitness and shorter game time he could ruck all day, so if Jackson not up to it, no great loss. Curious to see how Jackson is played when not in the ruck, in the forward line or moved into midfield, as some have suggested he could... 

    Also, suspect Lever may be a late withdrawal...

     

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    If Lockhart does not play I am going to have a fit.

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    Livestream up now on the clubs website with Jackson and Rivers being interviewed. Just wondering if someone could translate the subtitles for me.E6928-B5-A-A71-E-4-B39-9-AD9-FCE228010938-EB526-B4-3990-4-DA8-8-DAC-C9642014590-

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    1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

    I can’t see how Lockhart could possibly be dropped after his game in Rd 1.  I think he keeps Salem out. 

    Vanders definitely not yet available as he didn’t play the last quarter on the weekend due to foot soreness at 3/4 time.  

    Zero chance Salem doesn’t get a game unless he’s not fit. He would be one of the first picked in the side. 
    I would suggest Hibbo is in some danger. He’s been ordinary for a long while, and Lockhart and River cover his position. 

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    59 minutes ago, kieranbj said:

    Goodwin seems to love a bolter selection for games after a long break.

    Joel Smith round 1 2017

    Corey Maynard round 1 2018

    Tom Sparrow round 1 2019

    Toby Bedford round 1 2020

    and now Trent Rivers.

    with hindsight none of these selection surprises have really worked so far, lets hope Trent breaks that run. 

    The whole team is off a long break 'kieranbj'...

    22 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    What does that mean?

    He's doubly negative?

    Think changes will be:

    IN: Bennell, Rivers, Jackson, Salem, Jones
    OUT: Hibberd, Spargo, Brown, Bedford, ANB/Lockhart

    Think OMAC holds his spot to make sure May gets a match up on Mckay/McGovern and making sure Lever wont take a tall. I don't think Hibberd has shown enough over the past season plus rd 1 to warrant selection especially with Rivers in. Carlton's back 6 doesnt play tall 1 on 1 match ups so can see why Jackson gets a run here. Lockhart would be unlucky to miss, had a stinker rd 1 but has showed plenty recently and is a really good user of the footy.

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    40 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    So the Weid has been zeroed.

    Disappointing and heading for the trade table is my guess. We don't have much success with drafting key forwards.

    If Smith fails he might get a run down back given Petty's injury.

    We seem to hear little of Baker.

    Too many changes is my take. Perhaps they are all justified but it signals how poor some have been playing even when they're not playing!!

    Just remember our first game was so long ago that it is really like picking a team for the first game of the season . We would probably all be happy that we are seeing our draft picks play  early ...I’m looking at it like that anyway !

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    43 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    What does that mean?

    Quite right. I should have said "Have we learnt nothing?" or "Haven't we learned anything?". I now fear being banned for having improperly used a double negative.

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    45 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Livestream up now on the clubs website with Jackson and Rivers being interviewed. Just wondering if someone could translate the subtitles for me.E6928-B5-A-A71-E-4-B39-9-AD9-FCE228010938-EB526-B4-3990-4-DA8-8-DAC-C9642014590-

    Not sure Ethan.

    Last line = I'm really excited!

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    44 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Livestream up now on the clubs website with Jackson and Rivers being interviewed. Just wondering if someone could translate the subtitles for me.E6928-B5-A-A71-E-4-B39-9-AD9-FCE228010938-EB526-B4-3990-4-DA8-8-DAC-C9642014590-

    Either old mate on the text is struggling to understand Jacko or he has religion on his mind...

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    Mark Stevens

    @Stevo7AFL

    Rapt to see Luke Jackson in for Dees. Tbh was absolutely stunned he missed Round 1 after watching him on track through summer ...

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    I am VERY excited with all our ins this week, but MFCSS dictates that I should be a little nervous about having 3 x first year players in there at the same time, along with another who has only played a couple of games in a few seasons.

    57 minutes ago, hardtack said:

    He's doubly negative?

    which means a positive so we have learnt something.

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