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Pleasantly surprised by the response in this thread.  I was pretty lukewarm to watching it, but I might check it out sometime this week.

I know there will be some who want to see 'actions' and not 'words', but this is the world we live in now.  Better to just accept it.

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3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Pleasantly surprised by the response in this thread.  I was pretty lukewarm to watching it, but I might check it out sometime this week.

I know there will be some who want to see 'actions' and not 'words', but this is the world we live in now.  Better to just accept it.

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1 minute ago, Panamapapers said:

Cringeworthy, hear it all before anecdotes. Can't imagine hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong doing this stuff. Still expect a bottom 4 finish

Can't imagine how disappointed you'll be.

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1 minute ago, Panamapapers said:

Cringeworthy, hear it all before anecdotes. Can't imagine hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong doing this stuff. Still expect a bottom 4 finish

I'll indulge this for a moment.

While what we're doing is a longer version than most, every club does this over pre-season.  Look at the Hawks website - an interview with Gunston about how he is still passionate about being a leader, Mitchell's 'off field growth' coming to fruition and so forth.  Every single club does puff pieces over the summer.  You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

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1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

I'll indulge this for a moment.

While what we're doing is a longer version than most, every club does this over pre-season.  Look at the Hawks website - an interview with Gunston about how he is still passionate about being a leader, Mitchell's 'off field growth' coming to fruition and so forth.  Every single club does puff pieces over the summer.  You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Not after the season we had or our track record. Let's actions do the work

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Aah, the self anointed 'expert' film critics that feel a need to be critical... just like the 'real' film critics... always an opinion, never realising that they are not representative of the wider audience. I never take any notice of the 'real' film critics... I see a movie that I am interested in and make up my own mind. Enjoyed this insight into the mind-set of our football team. There was a time when supporters would grab the Saturday evening Sporting Globe on the way home which would have a report on the first half of the game you just viewed in first person... The Herald would have the final scores, printed in red (I think) on the back page of the early evening edition. When you got home from the match you might have had a half hour replay (if your team was playing one of the big 4) on Saturday night... then WOS on Sunday morning for 'expert' analysis. Now we have the good fortune to view a very well constructed review of pre-season, a narrative from the inner sanctum, and we have the drop-kick media critics here claiming it was below par! Get a life! Bring on episode two! 

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Just now, Panamapapers said:

Not after the season we had or our track record. Let's actions do the work

Every club does it, no matter if they've won the flag or the spoon.  

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18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fair enough, one little morsel in there about the burden of the decade impacting him as a leader. Although if you couldn't tell that the weight of a decade of failure had on Jones you haven't been paying attention. I'd extrapolate from that and say that if he wasn't enjoying the leadership journey and growth of so many players and the club from 2015-2018 then either he or the club were doing something wrong. The end of 2017 was upsetting but otherwise we were on the right track for a stretch of years there. 

I was also extremely disappointed at the end of 2017 and seriously thought we had missed our chance.

Jonesy is a part of that, but so was Max, T Mac and Viney (coming back too early from his foot injury) etc. They stood up in 2018 and finally got it right towards the end of the year, but in 2019 the likes of Max, Viney and Jones had to stand up while the rest of the team fell down around them. Trac, Harmes, Clarry were exceptions. 

Rather than derailing another thread, I will simply say you have your view, DS and I have mine. Jones may not be the player he once was but he is a champion person. Nno matter what happens in the next year (or two), the way he spoke shows to me he will do his best to ensure he plays his role as a player in his twilight years, to try to set the club up for success he will likely not be an active part of. 

 

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I liked the first 2 minutes. The club was prepared to take all the criticism of the journalists (and us i think...lack of leadership has always been a topic on here)

The rest was fairly standard..

after Part 3 i will elaborate further. 
nice cutting at the beginning (kudos to the editor)

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Thought it could have gone a bit longer.. but enjoyed it.

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Im happy for practically anything footy related after the last few months. Sure beats some of the mind numbing stuff that we have had to wade through on here while waiting for the season to start again.

Havent seen it yet, but will watch tonight when i get home from work.

At least we are trying something different (For MFC that is).

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I liked it, thought it was vulnerable and courageous of Jones to lead with his heart. And of the club to show how they’re responding to the pain of 2019. 
 

 

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I loved getting to see something we've virtually never been shown before. The coach's first address to the players to set up the pre season and the next season. Followed by the new head of conditioning setting out the plan. It wasn't what they said it was the fact that we got to see them saying it. Personally I"ve never seen that before. I love it. Best thing I've seen the Club do. 

For those of you who don't want to hear anything from the Club until there's results from games why are you even commenting about this. You're in the wrong place. Go back into hiding till round 1. 

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I enjoyed the first segment but believe it could have done with more nudity.

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23 minutes ago, It's Time said:

I loved getting to see something we've virtually never been shown before.

That’s why I enjoyed the episode. Some of us can only get to a few training sessions a year to see them and it’s strictly business. So what if some of the boys ran a few laps at some local park, the fact is they are doing it and to see which players group together is interesting. They are still working hard and also loved some of the talk like Preuss  “Bull__it” and Max’s expletive. A bit of banter is always enjoyable.

Noticed Frost in the early part, wonder if they will show us anything around the planning of trade period.

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 i enjoyed the initial episode and am looking forward to next instalment.I  Well done  to the media boys. Its  brave to make the doco in the present and hope the season develops in line with the theme of redemption and things don't turn sour .Not sure how it will all pay out in the end.Sort of a MFC version of "The Staircase "

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I reckon when we win the flag some people on here will whinge that it took us too long and we didn't win by enough. 

I thought it was a nice insight into the club and much more enjoyable than the souless puff pieces which are usually the only things we're treated to. It was a bit of a wake up for me that people in the club hear the criticism on boards like these which is directed at players and staff. 

More of this less of puff please. Could have been longer! 

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2 hours ago, Panamapapers said:

Cringeworthy, hear it all before anecdotes. Can't imagine hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong doing this stuff. Still expect a bottom 4 finish

Go follow some one else then!

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I liked it. Great insight into the club. Look forward to the rest. 

Those thinking what will the other clubs and the media think of us by producing this need to remember this is not for them this is for us. 

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Do people ever just watch something with no expectations ?

Enjoyed.

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3 hours ago, Panamapapers said:

Not after the season we had or our track record. Let's actions do the work

And in what way exactly, is this series hindering that? You might have noticed that we were given a glimpse of what their training regime will be like and that they are very clear in understanding that actions will be extremely important. They are obviously intensifying their workload to ensure that they are able to start the season in the best or condition.

This also gives the players and others a chance to open up about their feelings and gives us an insight into how they were personally affected by the way things went down the s-bend last year.

if you’re not interested, which you are obviously not, then don’t watch it. No pleasing some.  Or better yet, if you are Matsuo as was stated, perhaps you could exorcise your demons by writing a few haiku on the subject.

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So after watching it, i dont get why anyone would be critical. Some genuine insider stuff there, without any rose coloured glasses or spin. 8 mins of going over how bad we were last year, and just touching on the clubs plan to get better. Look forward to seeing the rest of it already. Might even convince me to renew my membership..................................................

Anyone critical of that is a sourpuss.

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