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To Hell & Back Episode 1


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1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I'll watch it at some stage.

I also know plenty of people will watch it just so they can complain about watching it...

Queue the phrase "Less talk, more wins!" and "we arent back yet!" at least 200 times on this thread

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Having now watched the first part, must say I enjoyed that.

And Moonie, I'm afraid you're wrong.  Posters aren't standing in a line.  It's "cue", as in cue up a record or to take your cue.

(Cue Moonie arguing back!)

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Must say I liked Goodies line about enjoying our footy - hopefully that goes for supporters too.

Fair enough for Jonesy to be tired of bearing the brunt of the leadership burden too.  I'd forgotten that Viney now has 112 games under his belt and I recon it's time that a bunch of blokes like Harmes, Trac, Brayshaw, Oliver, Samlem, Freitch, Lever, Oscar to step up and assume the mantle of leaders at the club in their own ways.  They are not kids anymore and I have the potential to lift the team to that next level if they can lead the way.  Not a chip on them at all, just the next evolution in theirs and the teams development to start behaving and playing like a mature football club.

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I must say this was not what I expected. In a very good way. I'm not sold on the title but the message so far is on point and as others have mentioned it was a great insight into the inner workings of the preseason.

Having said that all the words and platitudes mean nothing if it's not back up. Proof will be in the pudding.

Bring on Round 1.

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8 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Was great!  A really interesting insight.

Looking forward to the Bennell and Vanders stuff next week. 

Which parts? 

I can't remember anything insightful at all from watching that.

 

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5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Which parts? 

I can't remember anything insightful at all from watching that.

 

Nothing insightful?  Nothing at all?
I guess you’re much more in the know than me.

 

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Nothing episode.

Goody - lets train hard
Burgo - be fit
Some players ran some laps
A snipped of Nath Jones giving a largely uninspiring speech in some kind of foyer which seems to be how we do most things these days - shades of Lewis' retirement with no one paying attention.

Bennell, Vanders, new recruits - trade and draft, maybe even some snippets of a coaching meeting. There's a few more interesting stories that hopefully we get to see but it wasn't tonight.

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Wants to say more than it does. Could have provided more insight into Jones, his mental state, and approach going into 2020. I guess future episodes might elaborate? But he looks like a burned out man. This club has killed him. 

As a whole package the message might be coherent. I might wait until they're all out before watching, and then watch it as one package. 

Better than I expected tho.

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14 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Which parts? 

I can't remember anything insightful at all from watching that.

 

Based on the last line from Jonesy, he has felt the burden of the disappointment of 2019 and the disappointment of the Decade! 

This is insightful to me because it shows that Chunk has the self awareness to realise he was carrying too much and it was time to step back and allow himself to enjoy the time he has left in the game. The fact that he mentioned the 'Decade' shows to me how much he felt he has let down the supporters and most likely, himself as player and captain.

If you can't see that, DS, or don't want to see it, that can't be helped.

Also, the speeches appear to be in the lunch/break out room where most of the players probably gather and socialise at the club. 

I enjoyed the insight into the club but also realise it's only the set up for the rest of the series. I will be interested in what is to come leading into the season proper.

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3 minutes ago, DemonWorshipper said:

Based on the last line from Jonesy, he has felt the burden of the disappointment of 2019 and the disappointment of the Decade! 

This is insightful to me because it shows that Chunk has the self awareness to realise he was carrying too much and it was time to step back and allow himself to enjoy the time he has left in the game. The fact that he mentioned the 'Decade' shows to me how much he felt he has let down the supporters and most likely, himself as player and captain.

If you can't see that, DS, or don't want to see it, that can't be helped.

Also, the speeches appear to be in the lunch/break out room where most of the players probably gather and socialise at the club. 

I enjoyed the insight into the club but also realise it's only the set up for the rest of the series. I will be interested in what is to come leading into the season proper.

Fair enough, one little morsel in there about the burden of the decade impacting him as a leader. Although if you couldn't tell that the weight of a decade of failure had on Jones you haven't been paying attention. I'd extrapolate from that and say that if he wasn't enjoying the leadership journey and growth of so many players and the club from 2015-2018 then either he or the club were doing something wrong. The end of 2017 was upsetting but otherwise we were on the right track for a stretch of years there. 

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