Jump to content
  • Podcast:      

Demonland

To Hell & Back Episode 1

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Not just that; many had already decided how they felt about it before they watched it. Which comes back to @ProDee’s point about watching stuff without expectations.

For some silly reason my only issue going in was the Title. In fact I still think a more accurate but certainly less catchy and hashtaggable title would be The Road Back from Hell or simply The Road Back ...

No matter what the actual meaning of the Title is and refers to it will always be misconstrued to us prematurely coming back and will be used as a weapon to ridicule and judge the team like the cancelled preseason camp would have been had we failed to make the finals that year.

The truth will be lost in the narrative that those that wan't to bring us down want to advance. Sometimes those inside the nest are the biggest culprits.

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

For some silly reason my only issue going in was the Title. In fact I still think a more accurate but certainly less catchy and hashtaggable title would be The Road Back from Hell or simply The Road Back ...

No matter what the actual meaning of the Title is and refers to it will always be misconstrued to us prematurely coming back and will be used as a weapon to ridicule and judge the team like the cancelled preseason camp would have been had we failed to make the finals that year.

The truth will be lost in the narrative that those that wan't to bring us down want to advance. Sometimes those inside the nest are the biggest culprits.

Well said Andy. My thoughts entirely. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Demonland said:

For some silly reason my only issue going in was the Title. In fact I still think a more accurate but certainly less catchy and hashtaggable title would be The Road Back from Hell or simply The Road Back ...

No matter what the actual meaning of the Title is and refers to it will always be misconstrued to us prematurely coming back and will be used as a weapon to ridicule and judge the team like the cancelled preseason camp would have been had we failed to make the finals that year.

The truth will be lost in the narrative that those that wan't to bring us down want to advance. Sometimes those inside the nest are the biggest culprits.

Agreed with this. The doco was fine. Nothing mind blowing but enjoyable and I’ll never complain about getting a sneak peek behind club walls.

The title is my only minor beef. It can be easily misconstrued (and has been). Other than that, play on.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Well said Andy. My thoughts entirely. 

 

Just now, P-man said:

Agreed with this. The doco was fine. Nothing mind blowing but enjoyable and I’ll never complain about getting a sneak peek behind club walls.

The title is my only minor beef. It can be easily misconstrued (and has been). Other than that, play on.

I'm not advocating that this documentary not have been made. I love peeks behind the curtain. I love seeing the stuff we aren't privy to. We can get down to training or read training reports but rarely do we get a glimpse into the gym or private sessions and we never really get the team meetings except for  the occasional jumper presentation or rookie getting the call up stuff.

I guess I was expecting the series to be slow mos of training set to the Rocky IV soundtrack and I wasn't expecting to roll a tear at Jonesy stroking his dogs head.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Demonland said:

 

I'm not advocating that this documentary not have been made. I love peeks behind the curtain. I love seeing the stuff we aren't privy to. We can get down to training or read training reports but rarely do we get a glimpse into the gym or private sessions and we never really get the team meetings except for  the occasional jumper presentation or rookie getting the call up stuff.

I guess I was expecting the series to be slow mos of training set to the Rocky IV soundtrack and I wasn't expecting to roll a tear at Jonesy stroking his dogs head.

The doco is fine. But the name insinuates we are further down the line. That is my only bone of contention. 
it’s on youtube for all to see. 
now maybe that will spur the club to higher standards. 
We wait to see...

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The doco is fine. But the name insinuates we are further down the line. That is my only bone of contention. 
 

You assume that the title refers to team performance.  I think it probably refers to the players (and Club's) feelings and mindset indicating that whilst they were in hell last year, and understandably so, this year they have done the work and are fit and feel confident they can perform, hence "back".

Of course I might be wrong, but so might you, the difference being you've gone off hald cocked without knowing the facts, most haven't.

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can't wait for next weeks episode and hope we get an insight to the struggles Vanders has endured during his career.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Baghdad Bob said:

You assume that the title refers to team performance.  I think it probably refers to the players (and Club's) feelings and mindset indicating that whilst they were in hell last year, and understandably so, this year they have done the work and are fit and feel confident they can perform, hence "back".

Of course I might be wrong, but so might you, the difference being you've gone off hald cocked without knowing the facts, most haven't.

It’s all about Team Performance 

Redemption is why it was made. 

i only have an issue with the title, if you call that “going off half cocked” that is entirely up to you

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, P-man said:

Agreed with this. The doco was fine. Nothing mind blowing but enjoyable and I’ll never complain about getting a sneak peek behind club walls.

The title is my only minor beef. It can be easily misconstrued (and has been). Other than that, play on.

On the title as i have previously posted i wonder if the wording was a deliberate choice to create some of the confected huff puffery that played out on SEN. Trolling if you will. #anynewsisgoodnews

The other day i was driving at around 3pm and listening to SEN (which i never usually listen to during the day as i'm at work). I'm not sure who was/is on but he was banging on about the doc and in particular the title. He then played the cornes palaver in full, some more comments from him and then played Garry Lyon's response from the day after Cornes (in short pull your head in ****knuckle). And finished with some more of his own comments.

About 10 minutes of free publicity for an in house video that had yet to be aired. In addition to all of the previous on air discussion and social media. Gold

I listen to RSN sports breakfast and the they were all talking it up this morning. They may not have even known about if not for cornes' comments. 

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

  • Like 2
  • Haha 3
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, binman said:

On the title as i have previously posted i wonder if the wording was a deliberate choice to create some of the confected huff puffery that played out on SEN. Trolling if you will. #anynewsisgoodnews

The other day i was driving at around 3pm and listening to SEN (which i never usually listen to during the day as i'm at work). I'm not sure who was/is on but he was banging on about the doc and in particular the title. He then played the cornes palaver in full, some more comments from him and then played Garry Lyon's response from the day after Cornes (in short pull your head in ****knuckle). And finished with some more of his own comments.

About 10 minutes of free publicity for an in house video that had yet to be aired. In addition to all of the previous on air discussion and social media. Gold

I listen to RSN sports breakfast and the they were all talking it up this morning. They may not have even known about if not for cornes' comments. 

Certainly possible. I’m all for playing commentators like Cornes like a fiddle.

I’d like to think a lot of eyes will be the club this year regardless, but the level of media attention given to the disaster that was last season barely registered above passing interest. Anything we can do to get a bit of traction is worthwhile.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

True.  Anyway the title is spot on if you interpret it correctly:

To Hell =1964. (after all where else are Demons happy but in hell?)

And Back = the years since then, not in hell.  

When we win the flag it will be To Hell and Back to Hell at Last.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Jones summed up my feelings about 2019, not surprised he lost his passion during it.

Worst season in living memory, anyone who says otherwise is a fool.

Living memory is a long time CB. I can remember a couple in the last decade that were worse.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am telling you lot now we will fly up  the ladder,  nothing is more sure. At the end of 2016 every body at Richmond were saying how close they were to a flag, every body was laughing at them, me include.

Quite often clubs know where there at, whether they have a good great or bad year, where their the season went right or wrong. The last people to know where a team is at are media people like Kane Cornes.

We will fly up the ladder. I am not scared to put that out there and nor should the club, buckle up shut up and enjoy the ride MFCSS members.

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 2/9/2020 at 7:24 PM, Panamapapers said:

Cringeworthy, hear it all before anecdotes. Can't imagine hawthorn, Sydney, Geelong doing this stuff. Still expect a bottom 4 finish

Within the next 3-5 years every club will be doing something similar

Seriously anyone who complains after watching that will just complain about anything.

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The title is setting up the theme of the season for us. Whether it comes to fruition or not will play out in time but it's nothing more than a marketing tool. If we have another crap season I have a suspicion the title of a preseason promo series will be the least of our problems

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

Exactly right. I'm worrying about how long its going to take my beers in the freezer to get a drinkable cold as we speak. It's been an enternity 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A friendly reminder to my fellow Dees supporters: you're not responsible for the club's failures over the past sixty-five years. 

By some random quirk of fate, you support a team which has had limited modern success - due in part to many other twists of fate. 

Although I'm sure that it has been disappointing, that lack of success is not your personal lack of success. 

The majority of you probably chose the MFC when you were innocent children, many without having had any actual choice. 

I'm bewildered that so many of you seem so sensitive to social ribbing or criticism from the idiotic media. 

Your Collingwood mate wants to mock you for Melbourne's performance? Good stuff mate, well done for having watched a TV. 

Who cares what we title a documentary. It matters not one bit in the scheme of things, and makes absolutely no difference. 

 

 

 

  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

Thanks Thelma.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, Demonland said:

For some silly reason my only issue going in was the Title. In fact I still think a more accurate but certainly less catchy and hashtaggable title would be The Road Back from Hell or simply The Road Back ...

No matter what the actual meaning of the Title is and refers to it will always be misconstrued to us prematurely coming back and will be used as a weapon to ridicule and judge the team like the cancelled preseason camp would have been had we failed to make the finals that year.

The truth will be lost in the narrative that those that wan't to bring us down want to advance. Sometimes those inside the nest are the biggest culprits.

Same, I'm actually quite happy they're providing a behind the scenes look at the pre-season. For one it goes against the narrative of those who think they don't care about the season we had. But if nothing else it shows you the level of preparation they've been putting in. I'm really looking forward to next episode with Bennell being given his opportunity by the club.

Like you my only issue is the title, and perhaps the narrator. I feel like the story could've been told by captions and the players/coaches talking us through what was happening.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 2/10/2020 at 3:54 PM, Moonshadow said:

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

True. We should get back to life or death issues of global significance like whether Oscar is best 22 and the state of Harley Bennell’s calves.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I enjoyed Episode 1 and look forward to the next installments. 

Will be interested to see how they carry the structure forward. Set a scene in the first section, get into a bit of detail and then zone in on an individual. Start with a veteran (Jones), an established upper echelon player ( TMac/Gawn/Nev), potential star (Oliver/Petracca/Viney), a young player yet to establish themselves (Baker/Bedford/Sparrow) and a draftee (Jackson/Kossie/Rivers).

 

You get my drift.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 2/10/2020 at 3:54 PM, Moonshadow said:

Geez Louise... there's a lot more to worry about than the title of a promo video

On the one hand that is absolutely true, on the other, a lot of supporters are on a hair-trigger thanks to last year and are very unreceptive to any platitudes from the club. Especially from the marketing department. 
 

Anyway, sorry to bring up an old comment. It is just a silly title, but it is also telling of how on-edge and simultaneously worn out some of the supporters are that they view it simply as a poorly thought-through jinx. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    SUNSMART by George on the Outer

    If you don’t want to get sunburnt, you follow the Sunsmart rules.  Melbourne took the advice and with their season on the line, avoided getting burnt by the Gold Coast Suns, with a gripping 17 point win. It was a match that could have gone either way, with the sides within a kick of each other for all but the final minutes of the final quarter. Melbourne had stretched the lead earlier in the game to 18 points, but that quickly evaporated to a neck and neck race to the finish.  Finally,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    NORTH OF THE BORDER by The Oracle

    The outcomes of Melbourne’s recent games against the Gold Coast Suns are a pretty good barometer of how the teams are faring. The Demons easily accounted for them twice in 2018, the last win being a 96-point cakewalk at the MCG in Round 20 when they scored a whopping 21.17.143 to 7.5.47. Ironically, Melbourne’s score of 9.3.57 at the first break that afternoon is leading its highest score for a full game to date this year by 3 points. In those days, they played fast, skillful football, moved th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews 5

    PACK YOUR BAGS by George on The Outer

    The scene was captured by the TV camera’s before the match with a view of the Melbourne side’s bags packed next to the team bus to facilitate their flight up north to the AFL hub where they will play their next matches. However, on the basis of the efforts against Richmond, unless things change, and change rapidly, there will be some who will be told to pack their bags on a more permanent basis. Once again, the supporters got much the same story from this match against Richmond, as

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SOUTH OF THE BORDER by the Oracle

    Thankfully they moved this week’s game from Sydney where the sun shines and the virus breeds ever so slowly and almost nobody returns a positive test. The change of fixture comes at precisely the right time to allow everyone in town to head to the MCG on Sunday at around 3:30pm, not to catch up with what’s going on inside the ground but rather, to do what’s fashionable for woke folk in 2020 — pulling down statues. It’s time for Kevin Bartlett and Leigh Matthews to go but you can’t touch Norm Smi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    LESSONS IN LOSING by George on the Outer

    Turn up for the game and look like you want to win it.  Melbourne lost this game to Geelong, a game after a couple of extended breaks, looking like they were at the end of a 22 game season. Right from the start there was a lack of intensity across the board, as the Demons played exactly the type of game that the ageing Geelong list wanted. Geelong repeatedly played possession footy, to avoid having to run those ageing legs, something that Melbourne failed to exploit.  To use the oft quot

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    QUARRANTINO by Whispering Jack

    At a little after 4.00pm last Saturday, the MCG ceased to be the centre of the AFL universe. That was when the AFL’s el supremo Gil McLaughlin announced that the Bombers’ Conor McKenna had returned a COVID-19 positive result and declared that the game set for the following day between Essendon and Melbourne was postponed.  What followed was truly the stuff of a pulp fiction novel. We witnessed a suitcase load of mental gymnastics and spin calculated to let McKenna (and the Essendon Football

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    WHADDA WE SING? by Whispering Jack

    When the Melbourne team sang “The Grand Old Flag” last Saturday at Marvel Stadium in the absence of skipper Max Gawn, Ed Langford and Adam Tomlinson who were first time winners at their new club and Jayden Hunt, the leading goal kicker of the day it was passed off as an honest mistake. Taken in isolation, it most probably was accidental but the problem is that little accidents have been happening far too often in the club’s recent history and, in this case, it was symptomatic not only of a day t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    A POINT OF DIFFERENCE by George on the Outer

    It was Melbourne v Carlton at the comics stadium; a game between 16 and 17 in 2019. How could anyone pick a winner?  There had to be a point of difference, and so it would prove to be as the Demons literally fell over the line at the end, by a solitary point. In an almost complete replica of the Richmond v Collingwood game two nights previously, one of the sides (Melbourne in this case) rushed out to a five goal lead in the first quarter, while the Blues failed to bother the goal umpir

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    EXPOSED FORM by The Oracle

    Carlton fancies itself to beat Melbourne at Marvel Stadium on Saturday and, based on exposed form, why not? The Blues took it right up to the reigning premiers in their last up start and the Demons were simply horrible against the Eagles at Optus Stadium. That opening game of the season revived all of the nightmares of 2019 for a team that went inside the 50 metre arc 45 times, an advantage of 10 times over the home side and yet lost by almost five goals. Such statistics sum it up for a gam

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    SOCIAL DISTANCING by George on the Outer

    It was good to see the MFC players practicing the directives about social distancing at the game against West Coast.  Pity was that they continued to do so after the first bounce of the ball, as they allowed numerous WCE players run around un-hindered, with not a Melbourne player within 1.5 metres of them! They then found themselves looking at nearly a 5 goal deficit at the first break, which was to be essentially the final margin for the game. It is difficult to judge exactly what is going

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    BEST IN SHOW by Whispering Jack

    I am writing this knowing that the AFL has deemed that the opening round of competition will proceed but fully believing that it should not.  The world is going through cataclysmic change as a result of the overwhelming spread of the Covid-19 virus and I agree that a distraction like sport would be good for the public. However, while the physical threat to the population is bad enough, there are other  issues to be addressed including the mental health of the community and the effects on th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    TASSIE DEVILS by Van Demon

    If you were looking for something new from the Demons that wasn’t there last year, you didn’t have to look further than the perfectly trimmed grass surface of UTAS Stadium last night as the team steamrolled the Hawks to record a comprehensive 32-point victory to complete their Marsh Community Series commitments for 2020. One new thing was the fact that for the second Marsh game in a row, the team finished full of running and they dominated the second half without the presence or the dominan

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

×
×
  • Create New...