Demonland 74,431 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Cornes is not happy with all the talk coming out of the Dees camp and wants a less is more approach. I understand that clubs during the pre-season are trying to sell optimism in a competitive and saturated market. But you’ve got to read the room. If I’m in the media managers chair at the Demons this is how I’m instructing my players to answer the typical pre-season question from a journo. Journo: “(Insert player's name) How have you found the pre-season?” Player: “Look, I’ve enjoyed it. Obviously we were highly embarrassed and disappointed by what we served up as a club last year and we are working to make sure we don’t repeat the same mistakes.” Then shoosh. Shut up. There it’s done, that’s all a Melbourne fan wants to hear. Not that it’s been an unbelievable pre-season, not that we re releasing a pre-season documentary called To Hell and Back, not that the young players are training the house down, not that the new coaches and fitness staff are gods. Just be quiet until March and then let your football do the talking. Its crystal clear who the AFL pre-season premiers are. Congratulations to the Melbourne Football Club. I just really hope for their sake they win some games this year, otherwise its going to be highly embarrassing. Quote
pewpewpew 742 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I don't often agree with Cornes in fact we have a saying in my household; "Always bet on the guy that Kane Cornes picks against". In this case he is spot on. Particularly when he is talking about this stupid Pre Season Doco. Whoever signed off on this should be sacked. I couldn't give a rats how good the quality of the video is with the slow mo and the close ups and the inspirational music. The fact is we haven't COME BACK FROM ANYWHERE. TO HELL AND BACK. Where is the back in this narrative? If we win the [censored] lot this year then by all means make you doco with slow mo and inspirational music but until then do all your talking on the footy field. Yeah sell some hope but sell it on the [censored] footy field. 17 1 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Agreed. It appears the consensus is it's just going to happen and we'll waltz back into finals. I'm not so sure Quote
RedBlueandTrue 359 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I disagree completely. In a perfect world we would have the luxury of not needing to overhype but in reality we have to do anything we can to sell as many memberships as possible. If we have another terrible season, won't have mattered whether we were quiet or loud now. Have to do everything we can to retain as much of the membership base as possible or we'll just lose more ground. 12 1 1 1 Quote
Redjacket 760 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, RedBlueandTrue said: I disagree completely. In a perfect world we would have the luxury of not needing to overhype but in reality we have to do anything we can to sell as many memberships as possible. If we have another terrible season, won't have mattered whether we were quiet or loud now. Have to do everything we can to retain as much of the membership base as possible or we'll just lose more ground. Those who have decided not to renew their membership this year are not going to renew it because of some club sponsored propaganda. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,738 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Agreed. It's all cringeworthy stuff. 1 Quote
Pipefitter 2,234 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Hard to not to agree. Next we will be releasing the link for finals tickets. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-plan-to-be-top-victorian-club-20100303-pizq.html Quote RICHMOND has embraced a vision for a golden decade with an ambitious plan to more than double membership, clear debt and play finals three times, all within five years. The Tigers are determined to rouse the sleeping giant of football and their dormant fans through their plan, which carries a motto of 3-0-75. The motto stands for playing finals three times, having zero debt and signing 75,000 members within the next five years. The five-year plan is about positioning the club for where it will be by the end of the decade, with a vision for 2020 that they return not just to being one of the top four Victorian clubs, but the top Victorian club. Significant in the short term is the intention to play finals three times by 2014, which would require the Tigers to make the eight no later than 2012 - and stay there. Our players were well and truly humbled last year. A strong team with belief that they will be successful should come out and say it, rather than be fearful of failure. You can't get ahead of yourself but the idea that our players should be dwelling on last year like we need to pay some penance for it is ridiculous. After the early years of his career Cornes didn't win a thing. 17 1 Quote
Pulp Fritschon 774 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I do agree somewhat to what Kane Cornes is saying but we are backing ourselves in to deliver. We are not acting like the 17th placed team hiding away. We are putting it out there. Is that right or wrong? All depends on the win/loss. I will be positive and back us to deliver. 2 Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 https://demonland.com/forums/topic/47583-to-hell-and-back/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-1791481 Quote
Demon Dude 430 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I'd have to agree with Cornes about this. he gave us a whack and its well deserved imo. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Are our membership numbers now a secret? Three weeks ago I rang the club to ask why they were not on the website. I was told sorry an omission they will be up shortly. Have not checked today but it appears still to be a secret. Perhaps my idea of " shortly" and the MFC's are different. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 slow news week.....gotta make up something......ignore it 5 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 [censored] Cornes. What a nonce that muppet is. 4 1 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 The whole thing is noise and performative art and means nothing, as will be shown when the ball bounces for round 1. 1 Quote
reynolds46 1,310 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Don’t disagree with him but any media coverage is welcome for a cub game that struggles for attention Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 My question is, do we care what Cornes thinks? 3 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, old dee said: My question is, do we care what Cornes thinks? we don't know what cornes thinks (assuming he does) , od......just the drivel he writes to stir things up Edited February 6, 2020 by daisycutter Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Blah, blah, blah, Cornes, blah, blah, outrage, blah..... Ignore the little [censored] 4 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-plan-to-be-top-victorian-club-20100303-pizq.html Our players were well and truly humbled last year. A strong team with belief that they will be successful should come out and say it, rather than be fearful of failure. You can't get ahead of yourself but the idea that our players should be dwelling on last year like we need to pay some penance for it is ridiculous. After the early years of his career Cornes didn't win a thing. In the past I would have agreed with Cornes but you know what. It's time we came out and had a red hot go and put it all on the table. We really don't risk being a laughing stock as many already think we are. I agree with you 'Dee'...make a statement and back it up. I reckon we're good enough... 6 Quote
sue 9,277 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, old dee said: Are our membership numbers now a secret? Three weeks ago I rang the club to ask why they were not on the website. I was told sorry an omission they will be up shortly. Have not checked today but it appears still to be a secret. Perhaps my idea of " shortly" and the MFC's are different. They are on the website but in an obscure spot. Actually joining the club is a bit hidden too (why?!) - under the hamburger at the top right. Then you have to pretend you want to join and up comes the membership number which I presume is vaguely up to date. Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Talk is all we have been good at over the last decade. Would be nice to back it up for once. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, sue said: They are on the website but in an obscure spot. Actually joining the club is a bit hidden too (why?!) - under the hamburger at the top right. Then you have to pretend you want to join and up comes the membership number which I presume is vaguely up to date. It used be on the opening screen. Obviously it is not that important any longer. Quote
binman 44,828 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I don't mind the threads that start with a link to a dees media story as a rule. But I reckon we should ban using anything Cornes says as a topic starter.. I don't mind string opinions but his MO is so transparently click bait rubbish that we do footy journalism a disservice even reading him. 3 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,102 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Thanks for the advice Mr Cornes. I know it’s all puff, but to hear the messages that: it has been tough, but the novelty has been great (ball in hand) draftees all fitting in and working hard smiles, good culture, strong team first twice the number of players involved in full preseason. make me a happy, and a bit optimistic, as a demon. what does he want? Moaner and groaner. 2 Quote
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