6 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

Believe what you want .

It’s only a minor calf injury according to Foxsports today.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-harley-bennell-melbourne-calf-injury-preseason-supplemental-selection-period/news-story/fac103e87e9f9eb5c636c0ebaa4b65e3

 

54 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

I love revisionists who try and change history.

Martin did a deal with Carlton and then refused to talk to us. We never had a chance of getting him.

Bennell did not cost us Martin.

10 hours ago, TheoX said:

Sign him up anyway. Its a lot less risk than signing a cooked KK for 3 years on much more coin. He's unbelievably talented. 

The sensible option, given the talent and the apparent resolve displayed in preparation so far this off-season. Give him a home wherein he can hang his cap. He will reward us - just watch. 

10 hours ago, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

Reports of Martin on $900k in year one versus Bennell on a base rookie wage. Even if we had the salary space and he was open to coming I would not take him for that or anything close to it.

12 hours ago, old dee said:

If he cannot get on the park he is of no use!

Are you referring to HB on low wage of KK on a lot more?

57 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Are you referring to HB on low wage of KK on a lot more?

Both fit the bill mono. The odds were stacked against them from day 1. Both were/ are worth a try. Not sure about KK on a 3 year deal though. 

13 hours ago, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

For $3m over 5 years, who didn’t want to talk to us, and has been a very inconsistent player in his time at Gold Coast! All of a sudden he’s become a star!

vs

A risk on an injury prone player that they believe with new operation might make, for little cost! If he doesn’t come through, we just pick up another rookie!

There is just no comparison between the two players!

14 hours ago, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

Ha....

Even an injured Bennell is 3 times the player that soft [censored] Martin ever will be.

 

Edited January 27, 20205 yr by dazzledavey36

Harley Bennell will get that list spot. No doubts at all.

Unfortunately, Harley was back to watching others train from a brief appearance on the boundary line today!

On 1/25/2020 at 1:38 PM, Nelo said:

There’s the end of the experiment.  

Yeah I think so to, Unfortunately!!?

On 1/25/2020 at 8:25 PM, TGR said:

 

Frosties calves are wagu beef BTW.

Do you live anywhere near Box Hill?

This from another club's fansite, which would suggest the injury is not fatal ...

He was running the tan in Melbourne footy club get up this morning being supervised by someone else in uniform. They haven’t put a line through him yet.

 

On 1/26/2020 at 9:50 PM, kallangurdemon said:

The time line of the prospect of Harley joining us ran pretty much parallel with the prospect of drafting Jack Martin. We didn't appear to make much of an effort to convince Martin that we had the draft pick and he wold play with us or no one.A bit like North and Carlton over Keith Greig .Instead the club dismissed the drafting of Martin rolled out Harley as a substitute and people got excited .Now the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it was unlikely that Harley would ever play anyway .That consensus is well justified and I concur with it .But we cannot say that all we lost was a potential rookie list player .What we lost was an absolutely fortuitous opportunity to snag not some rookie listed player but a genuinely good fit footballer .Harley was just the soft option . 

Keith Greig!!!? That was when the dinosaurs still roamed the earth. The system was totally different then, as was the game of football.

Edited January 27, 20205 yr by President Dee Trump

Im nearly certain he will get a spot. This would have to have been expected. Hiccups and hurdles all part of it.

13 hours ago, demonstone said:

This from another club's fansite, which would suggest the injury is not fatal ...

Of course it isn't. The Hun should be ashamed at putting that [censored] article out. Surely some Essendon player did something the day before, as they report pretty much everything any of them do.

Edited January 27, 20205 yr by Clintosaurus

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Of course it isn't. The Hun should be ashamed at putting that [censored] article out. Surely some Essendon player did something the day before, as they report pretty much everything any of them do.

Good story on Joffa moving to a remote village in FIJI to live, in yesterday's Sun.

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Good story on Joffa moving to a remote village in FIJI to live, in yesterday's Sun.

He’s expecting the Pies’ year to be THAT bad?

15 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah I think so to, Unfortunately!!?

No it is not, he will get a 1 year contract

15 hours ago, demonstone said:

This from another club's fansite, which would suggest the injury is not fatal ...

He was running the tan in Melbourne footy club get up this morning being supervised by someone else in uniform. They haven’t put a line through him yet.

 

Good news and a great part of the recovery process - fitness/distance work at pace. Glad to hear.

“I believe the calf is not as bad as some doomsayers are suggesting and that he may be running as early as tomorrow,” he (Garry Lyon) told SEN Breakfast.

“He’s still got a lot of work to do obviously, he’s a mile away from getting back into it.

“There were reports when he did the calf that this what it and it was the end and all that sort of stuff, but it’s my understanding that he could be running tomorrow.”

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

No it is not, he will get a 1 year contract

Bloody hope so DD as my Sons mate up here in Qld works at GC in fitness area and told son if (and probably a BIG if) he does get himself fit he can be a gun for us. Fingers crossed for HB

47 minutes ago, Demonland said:

“I believe the calf is not as bad as some doomsayers are suggesting and that he may be running as early as tomorrow,” he (Garry Lyon) told SEN Breakfast.

“He’s still got a lot of work to do obviously, he’s a mile away from getting back into it.

“There were reports when he did the calf that this what it and it was the end and all that sort of stuff, but it’s my understanding that he could be running tomorrow.”

I'll take Garrys word over some of these 2nd rate journo's who were carrying on about this over the weekend.

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'll take Garrys word over some of these 2nd rate journo's who were carrying on about this over the weekend.

Hmm not so sure about that DD. He is the guy that gave is Neeld!