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If we want 2b successful we have 2b smarter. Let's stop keeping list cloggers & recruit skilful players who can kick and are hungry. We have 2 stop being a superannuation club 4 players who aren't up to it because they r good leaders. U can recruit young players who have leadership qualities in the draft. Go for some players with x factor no more vanilla types please. So I'd delist trade etc JKH, the Wagners, Keilty r, ANB, AVB, T Smith r, Stretch ???, Walker.... I'd recruit Anderson if we are allowed 2 keep our pick, then hit draft hard for value picks like a Kemp (injured) and look at some cat B gems and indigenous talent and get back on the Irish train.  Hopefully we don't pay overs for a Langdon etc and I don't want Jenkins types. 

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    5 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

    If we want 2b successful we have 2b smarter. Let's stop keeping list cloggers & recruit skilful players who can kick and are hungry. We have 2 stop being a superannuation club 4 players who aren't up to it because they r good leaders. U can recruit young players who have leadership qualities in the draft. Go for some players with x factor no more vanilla types please. So I'd delist trade etc JKH, the Wagners, Keilty r, ANB, AVB, T Smith r, Stretch ???, Walker.... I'd recruit Anderson if we are allowed 2 keep our pick, then hit draft hard for value picks like a Kemp (injured) and look at some cat B gems and indigenous talent and get back on the Irish train.  Hopefully we don't pay overs for a Langdon etc and I don't want Jenkins types. 

    Firstly we need to stop using numbers instead of letters to spell words and then can have an adult conversation. 

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    55 minutes ago, chookrat said:

    Firstly we need to stop using numbers instead of letters to spell words and then 

    56 minutes ago, chookrat said:

    Firstly we need to stop using numbers instead of letters to spell words and then can have an adult conversation. 

    We can do whatever we like. Stop being a prat. It's accepted practise 2 take shortcuts when u post. U r very patronising. 

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    10 Outs. 

    Lewis Maynard Walker retired. Delist- Jkh Spargo TSmith Keilty Garlett Wagner-j Vandenburg(medical) 

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    Schoenmakers (free agent) Langdon (swap 1st round 2020 pick) Cutler ((swap 4th round pick) 

    draft. #2 Noah Anderson (if pick #3, Lachlan  Ash) # 21 Elijah Taylor  #39 Miles Bergman #57 Brodie Newman 

    rookies added - Lockhart Dunkley Wagner-c

     

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    Retired/delisted - Lewis, Maynard, Walker, JKH, T Smith, Keilty & Garlett

    Hopeful ins:

    Pick # 2 or 3 - Anderson or Serong

    Langdon - 2019 2nd round pick

    Dan Butler - swap of late picks

    Possible free agents - Newnes, S Hill, Tomlison, Schoenmakers, Westhoff

    4th round pick - Tom Cutler

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    Would definitely be interested in Darcy Fogarty if the reports out of the Crows are true.

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    i like Rattens' style when he said that if he became coach, players that butchered the ball would be moved on or out. We should have the same mindset.

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    11 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    i like Rattens' style when he said that if he became coach, players that butchered the ball would be moved on or out. We should have the same mindset.

    FMD chook! If we followed that rule, we'd have about 3 players remaining!

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    Retire: Maynard, Lewis

    Delist: Stretch, JKH, Keilty, J.Wagner, T.Smith, Garlett

    Re-contract: C.Wagner, Baker, KK, J.Smith, Frost, Dunkley, Lockhart, Jones

    Trade targets: Langdon, Papley, Cutler, S.Hill, Butler, Elliott, Newnes

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    10 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    10 Outs. 

    Lewis Maynard Walker retired. Delist- Jkh Spargo TSmith Keilty Garlett Wagner-j Vandenburg(medical) 

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    Schoenmakers (free agent) Langdon (swap 1st round 2020 pick) Cutler ((swap 4th round pick) 

    draft. #2 Noah Anderson (if pick #3, Lachlan  Ash) # 21 Elijah Taylor  #39 Miles Bergman #57 Brodie Newman 

    rookies added - Lockhart Dunkley Wagner-c

     

    Don't understand the interest in Schoenmakers at all, he'll be 29 by next season, has never managed to average more than 1 goal per game and hasn't played more than 11 games in the last 4 seasons. I also very much doubt that Freo would entertain a swap of first round picks next year (or are you talking about spending our 2020 1st on Langdon? Because we're likely to be able to get him for our second this year). 

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    Jeff and Keilty gone. Really sad about Jeff. i was a big fan and he had more goal sense then most of players we have on our list. On his day he was pretty electric.

    Thanks for your contribution Jeff. a Demon forever.

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    Thought JKH should've been part of the first round of de-listings, as the biggest out and out dud on our list.

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    Trade or Delist: T Smith (too inconsistent with injuries), J wagner (list clogger - Hore in front of him), JKH (vfl standard at best), ANB (so innacurate at goal and goes at 65% efficiency...), Omac (basically a glorified witches hat + Petty much better and versatile)

    Retired: Lewis, Maynard

    Already Delisted: Kielty, Garlett

    cant see why anyone would want to delist Vanders, is one of the few with some fight in him when up and fit and to no fault of his own was ruined by the 4-6 week Misson curse this year...

    I reckon we’ll have about 8-10 spots on the list to fill during the offseason

    Trade In (in order of priority):

    Brad Hill, Ed Langdon, Sam Gray, Dan Butler, Karl Amon, Jack Newnes

    Minimum should be Langdon, one of Gray or Butler and one of Amon or Newnes

    Draft:

    With those targets I reckon we’ll be able to pay mostly with 2nd - 3rd round picks from this and next years drafts and possibly use a 1st (depending on if we can broker a split of our pick 3)

    Look for class ball users in any positions with athleticism and speed as well as small forwards with good finishing (i’m yet to get up to speed with the draftees this year apart from the top 5 or so).

    Whilst its all well and good to speculate that bringing in certain players and delisting will fix all of our issues, the successful clubs of the last decade or so have built been built on winning attitudes and hard work. still a long way to go to get back on track...

     

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    On 8/27/2019 at 9:52 AM, TheoX said:

    Thought JKH should've been part of the first round of de-listings, as the biggest out and out dud on our list.

    Can't agree more, he's had his chances here. It's time to go.

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    On 8/25/2019 at 11:06 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

    10 Outs. 

    Lewis Maynard Walker retired. Delist- Jkh Spargo TSmith Keilty Garlett Wagner-j Vandenburg(medical) 

    10

    ins 

    Schoenmakers (free agent) Langdon (swap 1st round 2020 pick) Cutler ((swap 4th round pick) 

    draft. #2 Noah Anderson (if pick #3, Lachlan  Ash) # 21 Elijah Taylor  #39 Miles Bergman #57 Brodie Newman 

    rookies added - Lockhart Dunkley Wagner-c

     

    We shouldn't add any rookies they haven't been good enough keep them as rookies.

    O.Mac has to be delisted, list clogger and keep Vandenberg.

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    On 8/26/2019 at 10:07 AM, Red and Blue realist said:

    Don't understand the interest in Schoenmakers at all, he'll be 29 by next season, has never managed to average more than 1 goal per game and hasn't played more than 11 games in the last 4 seasons. I also very much doubt that Freo would entertain a swap of first round picks next year (or are you talking about spending our 2020 1st on Langdon? Because we're likely to be able to get him for our second this year). 

    Ditto on that R&B.  Mere speculation i would think.  We couldn't be that dumb surely.

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    On 8/26/2019 at 8:57 AM, Bitter but optimistic said:

    FMD chook! If we followed that rule, we'd have about 3 players remaining!

    I suspect our bar would be much lower than most uncle.

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    On 8/27/2019 at 11:09 PM, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

    Trade or Delist: T Smith (too inconsistent with injuries), J wagner (list clogger - Hore in front of him), JKH (vfl standard at best), ANB (so innacurate at goal and goes at 65% efficiency...), Omac (basically a glorified witches hat + Petty much better and versatile)

    Retired: Lewis, Maynard

    Already Delisted: Kielty, Garlett

    cant see why anyone would want to delist Vanders, is one of the few with some fight in him when up and fit and to no fault of his own was ruined by the 4-6 week Misson curse this year...

    I reckon we’ll have about 8-10 spots on the list to fill during the offseason

    Trade In (in order of priority):

    Brad Hill, Ed Langdon, Sam Gray, Dan Butler, Karl Amon, Jack Newnes

    Minimum should be Langdon, one of Gray or Butler and one of Amon or Newnes

    Draft:

    With those targets I reckon we’ll be able to pay mostly with 2nd - 3rd round picks from this and next years drafts and possibly use a 1st (depending on if we can broker a split of our pick 3)

    Look for class ball users in any positions with athleticism and speed as well as small forwards with good finishing (i’m yet to get up to speed with the draftees this year apart from the top 5 or so).

    Whilst its all well and good to speculate that bringing in certain players and delisting will fix all of our issues, the successful clubs of the last decade or so have built been built on winning attitudes and hard work. still a long way to go to get back on track...

     

    Can't argue with much of that AD.  Just need to add a genuine KF somehow.

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    On 8/27/2019 at 6:52 PM, TheoX said:

    Thought JKH should've been part of the first round of de-listings, as the biggest out and out dud on our list.

    Wrong !Spargo, Billy Stretch just as bad

    Trade or delist. Spargo, Billy Stretch, JKH, ANB, T Smith, both Wagners.

    AVB Gets one more year under the new fitness Guru and thats it

    Chandler and Bedford Just by the skin of their teeth

    Hopefully Dunkley comes on a Bit

     

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    On 8/26/2019 at 10:06 AM, chook fowler said:

    so be it

    You better be a bloody good kick chook

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