2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

That’s utter tripe and I’d go as far as to say you’ve fabricated that, or at the very least the person who told you this has.

I will go along with that, had similar thoughts when I first read the post by general malaise

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

That’s utter tripe and I’d go as far as to say you’ve fabricated that, or at the very least the person who told you this has.

Whatever you reckon Macho.

Go as far as you want. No axes to grind here.

34 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I will go along with that, had similar thoughts when I first read the post by general malaise

Well of course you did it doesn't fit with your narrative. 

20 hours ago, General Malaise said:

I don't know him at all, but I was talking to someone last week who does. Regards him as a 'good mate' and has reasonable shared footy history.

Totally unprompted by me he volunteered that Goody's a 'control freak' who 'won't listen to anybody'.

There was more that suggests he won't seek or listen to a new mentor figure.

Could be why Jennings ideas weren't heard.

 

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

That’s utter tripe and I’d go as far as to say you’ve fabricated that, or at the very least the person who told you this has.

From a quick look, it appears the General has had the odd good mail in the past. So that, combined with the fact I've heard similar things (albeit third hand), means his comment should at least be listened to.

21 hours ago, General Malaise said:

I don't know him at all, but I was talking to someone last week who does. Regards him as a 'good mate' and has reasonable shared footy history.

Totally unprompted by me he volunteered that Goody's a 'control freak' who 'won't listen to anybody'.

There was more that suggests he won't seek or listen to a new mentor figure.

Could be why Jennings ideas weren't heard.

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

Edited August 14, 20195 yr by Lefty

23 minutes ago, Lefty said:

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

Gee we are probably clutching at straws but that is damning vision. Jennings body language says it all. No response. Looks completely embarrassed or defeated.

45 minutes ago, praha said:

Gee we are probably clutching at straws but that is damning vision. Jennings body language says it all. No response. Looks completely embarrassed or defeated.

I really like what Goodwin did there.

 

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

 

From a quick look, it appears the General has had the odd good mail in the past. So that, combined with the fact I've heard similar things (albeit third hand), means his comment should at least be listened to.

Going by  hearsay can lead to lot of trouble,

A senior AFL coach a control freak? Well I never....

Did Jennings ever smile? I certainly didn’t see one. 

That video footage is very interesting. Just won a nail biter and Jennings is far from happy..

Edited August 14, 20195 yr by Sir Why You Little

1 hour ago, Lefty said:

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

@Supermercado - Stone Cold Jennings or actually something more to this?

2 hours ago, Lefty said:

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

A perfect example of confirmation bias.

3 hours ago, General Malaise said:

Well of course you did it doesn't fit with your narrative. 

But it fits with yours.

2 hours ago, Lefty said:

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

However Jennings has a history of not showing much emotion in the box 

Same sort of vision when we beat west coast in 2017 , tmac bicycle kick game , so not sure if this is an isolated incident . Also look at the vision when we beat Gold Coast earlier this year,  they don’t call him stone cold  Craig Jennings for nothing 

 

14 minutes ago, bing181 said:

But it fits with yours.

I don't have one Bingo, just reporting what I heard. I've not pushed a point on it either way.

 

3 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

However Jennings has a history of not showing much emotion in the box 

Same sort of vision when we beat west coast in 2017 , tmac bicycle kick game , so not sure if this is an isolated incident . Also look at the vision when we beat Gold Coast earlier this year,  they don’t call him stone cold  Craig Jennings for nothing 

 

Still a very strange reaction when everyone else is stoked...

2 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

However Jennings has a history of not showing much emotion in the box 

Same sort of vision when we beat west coast in 2017 , tmac bicycle kick game , so not sure if this is an isolated incident . Also look at the vision when we beat Gold Coast earlier this year,  they don’t call him stone cold  Craig Jennings for nothing 

 

I'm wondering if Craig Jennings is the sort of bloke to eat fava beans and drink Chianti and have a walk in meat freezer in his home.

On the clip above, to me it looks like a sigh of relief by Jennings. Geelong toasted us in the last quarter the week before, Crows almost repeated it and he’s silently like ‘ thank f..k Nibbler’. 

3 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

However Jennings has a history of not showing much emotion in the box 

Same sort of vision when we beat west coast in 2017 , tmac bicycle kick game , so not sure if this is an isolated incident . Also look at the vision when we beat Gold Coast earlier this year,  they don’t call him stone cold  Craig Jennings for nothing 

 

That vision was the 2017 West Coast game... 

8 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I never said it did. You're good at presuming for other posters. 

It is clearly a reflection of the disfunction/failure of our present coaching set up - against what many of the happy clappers have been saying. I think I have worked out what camp you're in.

You certainly implied it with your "but Goody's the man" comment. What did you mean by that if not a snide comment at his future prospects?

There seems to be a level of anger behind your posts, I hope you're not this miserable in the real world. We all love the club but at the end of the day it's only a game, your teams performance is not a reflection on you.

3 hours ago, chookrat said:

I'm wondering if Craig Jennings is the sort of bloke to eat fava beans and drink Chianti and have a walk in meat freezer in his home.

My favourite Hannibal 

11 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

@Supermercado - Stone Cold Jennings or actually something more to this?

He also didn't give a rat's when Tom McDonald kicked the miracle goal at Subi so surely just 100% pure Stone Cold.

15 hours ago, Lefty said:

There has to be more to the story of this vision from after the Crows game in Adelaide which we held on to win.

To me it looks like perhaps Jennings and Goody had a disagreement on a strategy. Goodwin ignored Jennings idea. We ended up winning despite that and Goody let Jennings know about it with a "told ya so I know what I'm doing" slap.

The other assistants in that interaction appear to be in Goody's ok box.  Each of them gets an acknowledging /friendly pat, back slap or in the case of one, even a hand shake (somewhat closer than the others?). but there still doesn't appear as if there's a "relaxed/genuine" open camaraderie there in a general sense.  Alot of tension IMV.

As for Jennings and Goody WOW!  A slap on any part of the head from another dude, particularly over the back of the head like that (across or on the face also) a huge no no / put down and a massive red flag that there was/is no love lost between the two.  Very aggeessive response by Goody and indicates a major breakdown of trust/openness between them at some point IMV.  I'm surprised Jennings didn't move on earlier after seeing that vision.

According to reports, some senior players were very fond of Jennings.  Jones very keen on Jennings also.  I wonder if this incident and the fall out between the two (Goody & Jennings) was part of a catalyst that's slowly spread right through the playing group from the Captain down following the Adelaide win (earlier?)...

Extract Courtesy of AFL Nation:

..." Melbourne co-captain Nathan Jones endorsed Jennings last year as a senior coach-in-waiting, praising his tactical nous and ability to present ideas in a "refreshing" manner.

"He's one of the best minds in footy I've seen," Jones told AFL Nation.

"He is quite quirky, particularly in the way he educates and teaches players, which is terrific, really."

P.S. You would have thought we'd win a prelim or better the way Goody reacted to that.  Just a regular H&A win.

Edited August 14, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

22 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

The other assistants in that interaction appear to be in Goody's ok box.  Each of them gets an acknowledging /friendly pat, back slap or in the case of one, even a hand shake (somewhat closer than the others?). but there still doesn't appear as if there's a "relaxed/genuine" open camaraderie there in a general sense.  Alot of tension IMV.

As for Jennings and Goody WOW!  A slap on any part of the head from another dude, particularly over the back of the head like that (across or on the face also) a huge no no / put down and a massive red flag that there was/is no love lost between the two.  Very aggeessive response by Goody and indicates a major breakdown of trust/openness between them at some point IMV.  I'm surprised Jennings didn't move on earlier after seeing that vision.

According to reports, some senior players were very fond of Jennings.  Jones very keen on Jennings also.  I wonder if this incident and the fall out between the two (Goody & Jennings) was part of a catalyst that's slowly spread right through the playing group from the Captain down following the Adelaide win...

Extract Courtesy of AFL Nation:

..." Melbourne co-captain Nathan Jones endorsed Jennings last year as a senior coach-in-waiting, praising his tactical nous and ability to present ideas in a "refreshing" manner.

"He's one of the best minds in footy I've seen," Jones told AFL Nation.

"He is quite quirky, particularly in the way he educates and teaches players, which is terrific, really."

P.S. You would have thought we'd win a prelim or better the way Goody reacted to that.  Just a regular H&A win.

 

Great backyard body language analysis, thanks for the laughs.

33 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

 

Great backyard body language analysis, thanks for the laughs.

Anytime Mach.  Thanks for reading!

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

The other assistants in that interaction appear to be in Goody's ok box.  Each of them gets an acknowledging /friendly pat, back slap or in the case of one, even a hand shake (somewhat closer than the others?). but there still doesn't appear as if there's a "relaxed/genuine" open camaraderie there in a general sense.  Alot of tension IMV.

As for Jennings and Goody WOW!  A slap on any part of the head from another dude, particularly over the back of the head like that (across or on the face also) a huge no no / put down and a massive red flag that there was/is no love lost between the two.  Very aggeessive response by Goody and indicates a major breakdown of trust/openness between them at some point IMV.  I'm surprised Jennings didn't move on earlier after seeing that vision.

According to reports, some senior players were very fond of Jennings.  Jones very keen on Jennings also.  I wonder if this incident and the fall out between the two (Goody & Jennings) was part of a catalyst that's slowly spread right through the playing group from the Captain down following the Adelaide win (earlier?)...

Extract Courtesy of AFL Nation:

..." Melbourne co-captain Nathan Jones endorsed Jennings last year as a senior coach-in-waiting, praising his tactical nous and ability to present ideas in a "refreshing" manner.

"He's one of the best minds in footy I've seen," Jones told AFL Nation.

"He is quite quirky, particularly in the way he educates and teaches players, which is terrific, really."

P.S. You would have thought we'd win a prelim or better the way Goody reacted to that.  Just a regular H&A win.

Clutching at the straws here.